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Joaquin
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs
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I'd be grateful for some information on the following please (I've had a go
at reading the manual about direct outs but I've not been able to arrive at
a comprehensive understanding of what's available) -

How many direct outs can the 01V96V2 give (all pre or post fader, pre or
post EQ, digital or analogue?) and from what connectors and where on the
panels or using an expansion card?

Is it possible to modify the 01V96V2 for DC powering and if so who might do
this please?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Direct outs are assignable to any output. How many outputs you have depends
on what slot card you are using and if if use the ADAT lightpipe to give
yourself more I/O. I use the 8 I/O AES/EBU card in my slot, soon to move to
the 16 I/O AES/EBU card. I also use a Presonus Digimax for additional I/O.
You can also assign direct outs to the Omni outs (4), or even the main
analog outs. There is nothing that is impossible for I/O on the 01V96<g>.

I use the Aux outs 3-8 for my direct outputs (for iso mics) from the AES/EBU
d-sub 25 digital I/O directly to my DV824. I find that they are quickly
assignable and easy to monitor.

I have not heard of anyone 12VDC powering the 01V69. Pretty complicated I
would think. A good 300W pure sine-wave inverter works great for me, and I
have heard that even the really cheap square-wave inverters work fine; no
problems with the 01V96.

D.

"Joaquin" wrote in message

> I'd be grateful for some information on the following please (I've had a
> go at reading the manual about direct outs but I've not been able to
> arrive at a comprehensive understanding of what's available) -
>
> How many direct outs can the 01V96V2 give (all pre or post fader, pre or
> post EQ, digital or analogue?) and from what connectors and where on the
> panels or using an expansion card?
>
> Is it possible to modify the 01V96V2 for DC powering and if so who might
> do this please?
>
> Thanks
>
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Aug 3, 9:16 am, "Douglas Tourtelot"
wrote:
> Direct outs are assignable to any output. How many outputs you have depends
> on what slot card you are using and if if use the ADAT lightpipe to give
> yourself more I/O. I use the 8 I/O AES/EBU card in my slot, soon to move to
> the 16 I/O AES/EBU card. I also use a Presonus Digimax for additional I/O.
> You can also assign direct outs to the Omni outs (4), or even the main
> analog outs. There is nothing that is impossible for I/O on the 01V96<g>.
>
> I use the Aux outs 3-8 for my direct outputs (for iso mics) from the AES/EBU
> d-sub 25 digital I/O directly to my DV824. I find that they are quickly
> assignable and easy to monitor.
>
> I have not heard of anyone 12VDC powering the 01V69. Pretty complicated I
> would think. A good 300W pure sine-wave inverter works great for me, and I
> have heard that even the really cheap square-wave inverters work fine; no
> problems with the 01V96.
>
> D.
>
> "Joaquin" wrote in message
>
>
>
> > I'd be grateful for some information on the following please (I've had a
> > go at reading the manual about direct outs but I've not been able to
> > arrive at a comprehensive understanding of what's available) -
>
> > How many direct outs can the 01V96V2 give (all pre or post fader, pre or
> > post EQ, digital or analogue?) and from what connectors and where on the
> > panels or using an expansion card?
>
> > Is it possible to modify the 01V96V2 for DC powering and if so who might
> > do this please?
>
> > Thanks


I thought I had heard that Forrest @ Alternative Audio had come up w/
a DC mod for the 01V96. If past experience is any guide, it will work
well but cost as much as the mixer to do.

Philip Perkins
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Just curious. Why does everyone hate the inverter idea so much? Mine seems
to be pretty darned efficient and runs two AC powered devices very cleanly.
No hums, buzzes, wild pitches or passed balls (the pennent race is on!).

D.

"Philip Perkins" wrote in message

> On Aug 3, 9:16 am, "Douglas Tourtelot"
> wrote:
>> Direct outs are assignable to any output. How many outputs you have
>> depends
>> on what slot card you are using and if if use the ADAT lightpipe to give
>> yourself more I/O. I use the 8 I/O AES/EBU card in my slot, soon to move
>> to
>> the 16 I/O AES/EBU card. I also use a Presonus Digimax for additional
>> I/O.
>> You can also assign direct outs to the Omni outs (4), or even the main
>> analog outs. There is nothing that is impossible for I/O on the
>> 01V96<g>.
>>
>> I use the Aux outs 3-8 for my direct outputs (for iso mics) from the
>> AES/EBU
>> d-sub 25 digital I/O directly to my DV824. I find that they are quickly
>> assignable and easy to monitor.
>>
>> I have not heard of anyone 12VDC powering the 01V69. Pretty complicated
>> I
>> would think. A good 300W pure sine-wave inverter works great for me, and
>> I
>> have heard that even the really cheap square-wave inverters work fine; no
>> problems with the 01V96.
>>
>> D.
>>
>> "Joaquin" wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>> > I'd be grateful for some information on the following please (I've had
>> > a
>> > go at reading the manual about direct outs but I've not been able to
>> > arrive at a comprehensive understanding of what's available) -
>>
>> > How many direct outs can the 01V96V2 give (all pre or post fader, pre
>> > or
>> > post EQ, digital or analogue?) and from what connectors and where on
>> > the
>> > panels or using an expansion card?
>>
>> > Is it possible to modify the 01V96V2 for DC powering and if so who
>> > might
>> > do this please?
>>
>> > Thanks
>
>
> I thought I had heard that Forrest @ Alternative Audio had come up w/
> a DC mod for the 01V96. If past experience is any guide, it will work
> well but cost as much as the mixer to do.
>
> Philip Perkins
>
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Aug 3, 12:44 pm, "Douglas Tourtelot"
wrote:
> Just curious. Why does everyone hate the inverter idea so much? Mine seems
> to be pretty darned efficient and runs two AC powered devices very cleanly.
> No hums, buzzes, wild pitches or passed balls (the pennent race is on!).
>
> D.
>
> "Philip Perkins" wrote in message
>
>
>
> > On Aug 3, 9:16 am, "Douglas Tourtelot"
> > wrote:
> >> Direct outs are assignable to any output. How many outputs you have
> >> depends
> >> on what slot card you are using and if if use the ADAT lightpipe to give
> >> yourself more I/O. I use the 8 I/O AES/EBU card in my slot, soon to move
> >> to
> >> the 16 I/O AES/EBU card. I also use a Presonus Digimax for additional
> >> I/O.
> >> You can also assign direct outs to the Omni outs (4), or even the main
> >> analog outs. There is nothing that is impossible for I/O on the
> >> 01V96<g>.
>
> >> I use the Aux outs 3-8 for my direct outputs (for iso mics) from the
> >> AES/EBU
> >> d-sub 25 digital I/O directly to my DV824. I find that they are quickly
> >> assignable and easy to monitor.
>
> >> I have not heard of anyone 12VDC powering the 01V69. Pretty complicated
> >> I
> >> would think. A good 300W pure sine-wave inverter works great for me, and
> >> I
> >> have heard that even the really cheap square-wave inverters work fine; no
> >> problems with the 01V96.
>
> >> D.
>
> >> "Joaquin" wrote in message
>
> >>
>
> >> > I'd be grateful for some information on the following please (I've had
> >> > a
> >> > go at reading the manual about direct outs but I've not been able to
> >> > arrive at a comprehensive understanding of what's available) -
>
> >> > How many direct outs can the 01V96V2 give (all pre or post fader, pre
> >> > or
> >> > post EQ, digital or analogue?) and from what connectors and where on
> >> > the
> >> > panels or using an expansion card?
>
> >> > Is it possible to modify the 01V96V2 for DC powering and if so who
> >> > might
> >> > do this please?
>
> >> > Thanks
>
> > I thought I had heard that Forrest @ Alternative Audio had come up w/
> > a DC mod for the 01V96. If past experience is any guide, it will work
> > well but cost as much as the mixer to do.
>
> > Philip Perkins

Forrest is now working at Coffey Sound call them if your looking for
the mod
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Many thanks, so it really is very flexible, as you say for analogue direct
outs with no expansion card there could be omni outs (on jacks) x 4, the
main stereo out (on XLR's) x 2, and can you also assign any direct out to
the monitor out's (on jacks) x 2 as well? So it's possible to have 8
analogue direct outs with the choice of pre/post fader, pre/post EQ with no
expansion card if you wanted? But of course you mentioned ease of monitoring
and assigning which with the above setup might get tricky, but how do you
monitor your 6 direct outs on 3-8 on your 8 I/O AES/EBU card then please?

Thanks also for the information about the inverter which would probably be
the least expensive to implement by the sound of things, but it always seems
a shame that as soon as the power goes in that AC socket it immediately gets
converted to low voltage DC!


"Douglas Tourtelot" wrote in message

> Direct outs are assignable to any output. How many outputs you have
> depends on what slot card you are using and if if use the ADAT lightpipe
> to give yourself more I/O. I use the 8 I/O AES/EBU card in my slot, soon
> to move to the 16 I/O AES/EBU card. I also use a Presonus Digimax for
> additional I/O. You can also assign direct outs to the Omni outs (4), or
> even the main analog outs. There is nothing that is impossible for I/O on
> the 01V96<g>.
>
> I use the Aux outs 3-8 for my direct outputs (for iso mics) from the
> AES/EBU d-sub 25 digital I/O directly to my DV824. I find that they are
> quickly assignable and easy to monitor.
>
> I have not heard of anyone 12VDC powering the 01V69. Pretty complicated I
> would think. A good 300W pure sine-wave inverter works great for me, and
> I have heard that even the really cheap square-wave inverters work fine;
> no problems with the 01V96.
>
> D.
>
> "Joaquin" wrote in message
>
>> I'd be grateful for some information on the following please (I've had a
>> go at reading the manual about direct outs but I've not been able to
>> arrive at a comprehensive understanding of what's available) -
>>
>> How many direct outs can the 01V96V2 give (all pre or post fader, pre or
>> post EQ, digital or analogue?) and from what connectors and where on the
>> panels or using an expansion card?
>>
>> Is it possible to modify the 01V96V2 for DC powering and if so who might
>> do this please?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Joaquin wrote:
> Many thanks, so it really is very flexible, as you say for analogue direct
> outs with no expansion card there could be omni outs (on jacks) x 4, the
> main stereo out (on XLR's) x 2, and can you also assign any direct out to
> the monitor out's (on jacks) x 2 as well? So it's possible to have 8
> analogue direct outs with the choice of pre/post fader, pre/post EQ with no
> expansion card if you wanted? But of course you mentioned ease of monitoring
> and assigning which with the above setup might get tricky, but how do you
> monitor your 6 direct outs on 3-8 on your 8 I/O AES/EBU card then please?
>
> Thanks also for the information about the inverter which would probably be
> the least expensive to implement by the sound of things, but it always seems
> a shame that as soon as the power goes in that AC socket it immediately gets
> converted to low voltage DC!
>
Forrest Forbes did the dc mod for me, and it's flawless. The thing
about the 01v96 is that you can literally send anything anywhere! I
have the 16 in and out AES card, and that feeds eight channels to the
Deva V and four to the 744. The 01v96 easily runs at .01% pull up, and
I've used mine for everything from single camera episodic to a live
multicamera broadcast with music!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:01 am    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Eric Pierce" wrote in message

> Joaquin wrote:
>> Many thanks, so it really is very flexible, as you say for analogue
>> direct outs with no expansion card there could be omni outs (on jacks) x
>> 4, the main stereo out (on XLR's) x 2, and can you also assign any direct
>> out to the monitor out's (on jacks) x 2 as well? So it's possible to have
>> 8 analogue direct outs with the choice of pre/post fader, pre/post EQ
>> with no expansion card if you wanted? But of course you mentioned ease of
>> monitoring and assigning which with the above setup might get tricky, but
>> how do you monitor your 6 direct outs on 3-8 on your 8 I/O AES/EBU card
>> then please?
>>
>> Thanks also for the information about the inverter which would probably
>> be the least expensive to implement by the sound of things, but it always
>> seems a shame that as soon as the power goes in that AC socket it
>> immediately gets converted to low voltage DC!
>>
> Forrest Forbes did the dc mod for me, and it's flawless. The thing about
> the 01v96 is that you can literally send anything anywhere! I have the 16
> in and out AES card, and that feeds eight channels to the Deva V and four
> to the 744. The 01v96 easily runs at .01% pull up, and I've used mine for
> everything from single camera episodic to a live multicamera broadcast
> with music!

So what's the ballpark price of the DC mod?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Charles Tomaras wrote:

> So what's the ballpark price of the DC mod?
>
>
It's not cheap. About $700, but you're still many times under a Cooper...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Eric Pierce" wrote in message

> Charles Tomaras wrote:
>
>> So what's the ballpark price of the DC mod?
>>
>>
> It's not cheap. About $700, but you're still many times under a Cooper...

Do you also get to keep the ability to AC power or does all of that get
gutted?
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Charles Tomaras wrote:
> "Eric Pierce" wrote in message
>
>> Charles Tomaras wrote:
>>
>>> So what's the ballpark price of the DC mod?
>>>
>>>
>> It's not cheap. About $700, but you're still many times under a
>> Cooper...
>
> Do you also get to keep the ability to AC power or does all of that get
> gutted?
>
>
Yes, the AC operation is complete, but I have never used it since the DC
mod. Forrest installs a four pin DC input, a AC/DC switch and a fuse.
It's great to have the ability to go right to the wall if anything
happens to the DC, but in thousands of hours, nothing ever has.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Aug 4, 3:32 pm, Eric Pierce wrote:
> Charles Tomaras wrote:
> > "Eric Pierce" wrote in message
> >
> >> Charles Tomaras wrote:
>
> >>> So what's the ballpark price of the DC mod?
>
> >> It's not cheap. About $700, but you're still many times under a
> >> Cooper...
>
> > Do you also get to keep the ability to AC power or does all of that get
> > gutted?
>
> Yes, the AC operation is complete, but I have never used it since the DC
> mod. Forrest installs a four pin DC input, a AC/DC switch and a fuse.
> It's great to have the ability to go right to the wall if anything
> happens to the DC, but in thousands of hours, nothing ever has.


Invertors=RF interference and fan noise. The Xantrax makes nice AC,
but does have those issues to some degree. Also size and weight. A
DC powered 01V96 would rock.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Mine doesn't have either;
1) a good pure sine-wave inverter and
2) a good, if installed by me, very quiet fan.

D.

"Philip Perkins" wrote in message

> On Aug 4, 3:32 pm, Eric Pierce wrote:
>> Charles Tomaras wrote:
>> > "Eric Pierce" wrote in message
>> >
>> >> Charles Tomaras wrote:
>>
>> >>> So what's the ballpark price of the DC mod?
>>
>> >> It's not cheap. About $700, but you're still many times under a
>> >> Cooper...
>>
>> > Do you also get to keep the ability to AC power or does all of that get
>> > gutted?
>>
>> Yes, the AC operation is complete, but I have never used it since the DC
>> mod. Forrest installs a four pin DC input, a AC/DC switch and a fuse.
>> It's great to have the ability to go right to the wall if anything
>> happens to the DC, but in thousands of hours, nothing ever has.
>
>
> Invertors=RF interference and fan noise. The Xantrax makes nice AC,
> but does have those issues to some degree. Also size and weight. A
> DC powered 01V96 would rock.
>
> Philip Perkins
>
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Aug 4, 5:21 pm, "Douglas Tourtelot"
wrote:
> Mine doesn't have either;
> 1) a good pure sine-wave inverter and
> 2) a good, if installed by me, very quiet fan.
>
> D.
>
> "Philip Perkins" wrote in message
>
>
>
> > On Aug 4, 3:32 pm, Eric Pierce wrote:
> >> Charles Tomaras wrote:
> >> > "Eric Pierce" wrote in message
> >> >
> >> >> Charles Tomaras wrote:
>
> >> >>> So what's the ballpark price of the DC mod?
>
> >> >> It's not cheap. About $700, but you're still many times under a
> >> >> Cooper...
>
> >> > Do you also get to keep the ability to AC power or does all of that get
> >> > gutted?
>
> >> Yes, the AC operation is complete, but I have never used it since the DC
> >> mod. Forrest installs a four pin DC input, a AC/DC switch and a fuse.
> >> It's great to have the ability to go right to the wall if anything
> >> happens to the DC, but in thousands of hours, nothing ever has.
>
> > Invertors=RF interference and fan noise. The Xantrax makes nice AC,
> > but does have those issues to some degree. Also size and weight. A
> > DC powered 01V96 would rock.
>
> > Philip Perkins



There is still some net loss in power thru even a good invertor. Do
you figure that you'd still have the big batts anyhow, so that doesn't
matter? I've used the Xantrax and liked it a lot, but am jealous of
cart space and weight. I didn't get a chance to test the Xantrax for
RF, I'd be curious about that. The lesser invertors I had made huge
amounts of RF, noise and heat and were pretty inefficient. One
advantage to a big invertor is that you can hook up anything AC
to it whenever you want w/o extra hassle. (Computer, sound system,
DA, monitor etc)

Philip Perkins
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Aug 4, 12:05 am, "Joaquin" wrote:
> I'd be grateful for some information on the following please (I've had a go
> at reading the manual about direct outs but I've not been able to arrive at
> a comprehensive understanding of what's available) -
>
> How many direct outs can the 01V96V2 give (all pre or post fader, pre or
> post EQ, digital or analogue?) and from what connectors and where on the
> panels or using an expansion card?
>
> Is it possible to modify the 01V96V2 for DC powering and if so who might do
> this please?
>
> Thanks

The O1V96V2 is a fantastic desk, you all know it is true! I have two
expansion slot cards, the MY4-DA which provides four XLR analog
outputs and the MY8-AE96 which gives me 8 AES/EBU (AES3) digital
outputs running at a minimum 24bit 48kHz. I use a Sound Devices 744T.
So, If I am using a analog set up, the four Omni outputs become the
main bus out to the 744T, IE only using four of the avaliable eight
buses out. The MY4-DA card is my auxilury out, so I have four Aux
sends to play with, private channel boomie, public send for directors
ect and another two spare perhaps for M-Box playback or a camera send,
whatever?
For a digital set up, swap cards to the MY8-AE96 which gives you eight
AES/EBU (AES3) sends, usually to two Sound Devices744t's time of day
locked. The four omni outs then become your aux sends, and guess what,
you have got four of them again! Beautiful.
I realise that the instuction manual is a bit intimidating, but if you
use those little Post It notes and write stuff like "Digital Inputs
and Outputs" and stick it to the top of page 71, you can find sections
very quickly.
As for your AC/DC convertor, I have four 13amp batteries, two per
pelican case, wired so there is 'Y' cable going into a 500watt
sinewave invertor. I get about 12 hours per day and charge over night.
Sorry for my spelling, its not great. I wanted to buy a Cooper 208,
but I got the Yammy instead. I think it is great everyone should have
one! One more thing if anyone has a problem with clocking, the Yamaha
becomes the master clock and the Sound Devices 744's slave without a
hitch, look at page 40, This has all the digital clocking info you
will need!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 7 Aug., 10:40, "Joaquin" wrote:
> Also a question about powering do 4 x 13a/h (156 watt x 4 = 624 watts?) only
> last you 12 hours - that seems quite a lot and what do you do on 14 hour
> days? -Smile

In my country we have lunch breaks where I turn off the equipment Wink

Seriously, I think a feature-shoot where you can´t turn off your mixer
for a a constant 14hours is pretty rare.

Frank.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Many thanks for all contributions and to Rainman for details of setup - I
also have a 744T so that's good to hear how you use one or two 744T's but
why do you sometimes choose analogue routing to a single 744T rather than
using four of your eight digital outs?

Also with two 744T's how do you manage track/scene naming and how do you
deliver rushes please?

Also a question about powering do 4 x 13a/h (156 watt x 4 = 624 watts?) only
last you 12 hours - that seems quite a lot and what do you do on 14 hour
days? -Smile

thanks


"Rainman" wrote in message

> On Aug 4, 12:05 am, "Joaquin" wrote:
>> I'd be grateful for some information on the following please (I've had a
>> go
>> at reading the manual about direct outs but I've not been able to arrive
>> at
>> a comprehensive understanding of what's available) -
>>
>> How many direct outs can the 01V96V2 give (all pre or post fader, pre or
>> post EQ, digital or analogue?) and from what connectors and where on the
>> panels or using an expansion card?
>>
>> Is it possible to modify the 01V96V2 for DC powering and if so who might
>> do
>> this please?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> The O1V96V2 is a fantastic desk, you all know it is true! I have two
> expansion slot cards, the MY4-DA which provides four XLR analog
> outputs and the MY8-AE96 which gives me 8 AES/EBU (AES3) digital
> outputs running at a minimum 24bit 48kHz. I use a Sound Devices 744T.
> So, If I am using a analog set up, the four Omni outputs become the
> main bus out to the 744T, IE only using four of the avaliable eight
> buses out. The MY4-DA card is my auxilury out, so I have four Aux
> sends to play with, private channel boomie, public send for directors
> ect and another two spare perhaps for M-Box playback or a camera send,
> whatever?
> For a digital set up, swap cards to the MY8-AE96 which gives you eight
> AES/EBU (AES3) sends, usually to two Sound Devices744t's time of day
> locked. The four omni outs then become your aux sends, and guess what,
> you have got four of them again! Beautiful.
> I realise that the instuction manual is a bit intimidating, but if you
> use those little Post It notes and write stuff like "Digital Inputs
> and Outputs" and stick it to the top of page 71, you can find sections
> very quickly.
> As for your AC/DC convertor, I have four 13amp batteries, two per
> pelican case, wired so there is 'Y' cable going into a 500watt
> sinewave invertor. I get about 12 hours per day and charge over night.
> Sorry for my spelling, its not great. I wanted to buy a Cooper 208,
> but I got the Yammy instead. I think it is great everyone should have
> one! One more thing if anyone has a problem with clocking, the Yamaha
> becomes the master clock and the Sound Devices 744's slave without a
> hitch, look at page 40, This has all the digital clocking info you
> will need!
>
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Aug 7, 6:59 pm, wildt®ax wrote:
> On 7 Aug., 10:40, "Joaquin" wrote:
>
> > Also a question about powering do 4 x 13a/h (156 watt x 4 = 624 watts?) only
> > last you 12 hours - that seems quite a lot and what do you do on 14 hour
> > days? -Smile
>
> In my country we have lunch breaks where I turn off the equipment Wink
>
> Seriously, I think a feature-shoot where you can´t turn off your mixer
> for a a constant 14hours is pretty rare.
>
> Frank.

Hello Frank,
I am not an electrical genius, I over spec'ed the amount of battery
power to ensure that I would have enough power to last a theoretical
12 hour day. I only work a 10 and three quarter hour day in Australia,
10 hours of shooting and three quarters of an hour for lunch, where
everyone in the crew turns their equipment off. I just wanted to make
sure that I can run solo of mains or generator power for a whole day.
But if overtime is called I can be pretty sure that I will still have
enough power to last that extra hour or two.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Aug 7, 6:40 pm, "Joaquin" wrote:
> Many thanks for all contributions and to Rainman for details of setup - I
> also have a 744T so that's good to hear how you use one or two 744T's but
> why do you sometimes choose analogue routing to a single 744T rather than
> using four of your eight digital outs?
>
> Also with two 744T's how do you manage track/scene naming and how do you
> deliver rushes please?
>
> Also a question about powering do 4 x 13a/h (156 watt x 4 = 624 watts?) only
> last you 12 hours - that seems quite a lot and what do you do on 14 hour
> days? -Smile
>
> thanks
>
> "Rainman" wrote in message
>
>
>
> > On Aug 4, 12:05 am, "Joaquin" wrote:
> >> I'd be grateful for some information on the following please (I've had a
> >> go
> >> at reading the manual about direct outs but I've not been able to arrive
> >> at
> >> a comprehensive understanding of what's available) -
>
> >> How many direct outs can the 01V96V2 give (all pre or post fader, pre or
> >> post EQ, digital or analogue?) and from what connectors and where on the
> >> panels or using an expansion card?
>
> >> Is it possible to modify the 01V96V2 for DC powering and if so who might
> >> do
> >> this please?
>
> >> Thanks
>
> > The O1V96V2 is a fantastic desk, you all know it is true! I have two
> > expansion slot cards, the MY4-DA which provides four XLR analog
> > outputs and the MY8-AE96 which gives me 8 AES/EBU (AES3) digital
> > outputs running at a minimum 24bit 48kHz. I use a Sound Devices 744T.
> > So, If I am using a analog set up, the four Omni outputs become the
> > main bus out to the 744T, IE only using four of the avaliable eight
> > buses out. The MY4-DA card is my auxilury out, so I have four Aux
> > sends to play with, private channel boomie, public send for directors
> > ect and another two spare perhaps for M-Box playback or a camera send,
> > whatever?
> > For a digital set up, swap cards to the MY8-AE96 which gives you eight
> > AES/EBU (AES3) sends, usually to two Sound Devices744t's time of day
> > locked. The four omni outs then become your aux sends, and guess what,
> > you have got four of them again! Beautiful.
> > I realise that the instuction manual is a bit intimidating, but if you
> > use those little Post It notes and write stuff like "Digital Inputs
> > and Outputs" and stick it to the top of page 71, you can find sections
> > very quickly.
> > As for your AC/DC convertor, I have four 13amp batteries, two per
> > pelican case, wired so there is 'Y' cable going into a 500watt
> > sinewave invertor. I get about 12 hours per day and charge over night.
> > Sorry for my spelling, its not great. I wanted to buy a Cooper 208,
> > but I got the Yammy instead. I think it is great everyone should have
> > one! One more thing if anyone has a problem with clocking, the Yamaha
> > becomes the master clock and the Sound Devices 744's slave without a
> > hitch, look at page 40, This has all the digital clocking info you
> > will need!

Hello Joaquin,
I only own one 744T, so when I am working on a feature I have the
yamaha and 744T set to run in analog. This is because the 744T and
Sound devices 442 portible mixer sit together in Portabrace bag on top
of the trolley. This is to facilitate a quick repatch so I can go
portable very quickly and come back to the trolley and Yamaha and
repatch quickly. I find the pace of shooting has increased, hence I
have to be flexible and capable of keeping up with the demands of the
shoot.
I run the Yamaha in digital, usually when I am doing a studio based
eight track record which does not mean lots of location moves. I
usually hire in another 744T and sit it in place of the 442 mixer. The
D-Sub 25 pin plug (in my opinion) looks a little fragile, and I would
hate it to get damaged. Look I understand that running your desk
analog or digital is not for everyone, its just that that XLR and
balanced jacks are more robust and suitable for everyday patching
rather than the D-Sub 25 pin digital plug.
As for your question about track and Scene naming on two 744T's, this
is actually quite straightforward. Assuming that you have both 744's
timecode locked on time of day, one is master and one is slaved. They
are in timecode sync. In this mode the slave 744t will not
automatically record when the master 744 record button is pressed, so
you have to press record twice. (If both units are in record run
timecode mode the slave 744t will auto record due to the change in
timcode on the master.) Basically you set the scene and slate number
and the take number advances each time you press record and stop. You
just change the scene and slate number on each machine.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by track names, as the tracks are
A,B,C,D in a polyphonic file and I don't know how you change those
names in the 744T?
Delivering rushes is a bit complicated, Say for example I was doing a
eight track 24bit 48Khz record using all eight tracks, every take, all
day. Each 744T was connected to a Mac laptop at lunch and wrap and
takes were downloaded into a file. Then each file was dumped onto one
portable hard drive shared from each computer. The problem was that
each daily file form each 744T had the same name, so we put a letter
'A' in front of the file that had tracks 5-8. This was so that the
editor could distinguish between tracks 1-4 and 5-8 (hopefully!) You
may ask why didn't you just burn a DVDr (not DVDRAM) on your Laptop.
Normally I would just burn a DVD of the days rushes, but this type of
recording creates more data than would fit on a 4 gig DVD or Compact
flash card each day. Then we discovered that the Editor was using
Final Cut Pro 5, which doesn't import the timcode data. Don't get me
started on Editors, consequently they upgraded to FCP 6 which
seemlessly imports .wav files timecode and all.
As for powering I work a 10 hour shoot day in Australia and I over
spec'd my power requirements so I would have enough power to run for
about 12 hours. This is so I can power solo all day without mains or
generator power. Then when over time is called, I know I would have
enough power to last an extra couple of hours a day if it is needed.
So yes, I have more power than I need.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: Yamaha 01V96V2 - mod. for DC power and direct outs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 8 Aug., 05:15, Rainman wrote:
> I'm not quite sure what you mean by track names, as the tracks are
> A,B,C,D in a polyphonic file and I don't know how you change those
> names in the 744T?

You can either enter track-names from the main menue or edit them in
the HDD-menue (where you can also enter notes). The Default is ABCD
but you can name them boom, radio1 etc. or something else.
BUT: The 744T will only rename secne/take/notes and tracknames on the
chosen drive. So If you have 2 machines running and you are recording
to 2 media at the same time renaming a take can take a long time
because it can mean to hand-rename both HD and CF on both machines.

Also note that the 744T will not rename the scene/take/note in the
metadata. It will only rename the file-name However it will rename the
track-names and notes in the meta-data.

I hope they are going to chenge this soon.

frank.
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