'The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie' (1969)

Mack A. Damia · External Since: Aug 28, 2010 Posts: 180

On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 20:02:57 -0700, gtr wrote:

>On 2012-03-19 02:46:04 +0000, calvin said:
>
>> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:27:31 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
>>> On Mar 18, 5:53 pm, calvin wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:35:57 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>> Let's take al ook at the evidence and proof you have about all this.
>>>>> Then we can make a judgment.
>>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> ACORN. And then the Dems wanted ACORN to manage the census,
>>>> but thankfully they were exposed for other outrages first.
>>>
>>> No one at ACORN, in ant city in America, was ever charged, much less
>>> convicted of, vote fraud.
>>>
>>> Ever. Period.
>>>
>>> You are foisting an urban myth upon us, calvin.
>>
>> See the Google hits; and there are plenty more
>> where they came from.
>
>Sure, there are trillions of unrelated google hits, but none of them
>validate or substatiate a single one of your cliams. Honestly, in
>political debate, you're absolutely defenseless.

Calvin, understand what you are doing.

Opinion does not equal fact or proof.

You are merely posting opinions of what you believe to be true. Would
a prosecutor call a witness to the stand who says, "I *KNOW* he
committed the crime because John Doe thinks he did" ? This is what
you are doing. You are merely citing opinion as proof.
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gtr · External Since: Feb 17, 2010 Posts: 155

On 2012-03-19 02:40:25 +0000, calvin said:

> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:54:56 PM UTC-4, gtr wrote:
>> On 2012-03-19 00:31:26 +0000, calvin said:
>>> All one can do is look at the practices of Democrat operatives like
>>> ACORN, which was under suspicion of election fraud
>>> long before O'Keefe's sting.
>>
>> Suspicion is not fraud. O'Keefe's "sting" produced no evidence of
>> anything related to voting in any way.
>
> Can't you read? It was previously made clear that
> O'Keefe's sting had nothing to do with ACORN election
> fraud. It's tiresome to have to explain things that
> a ten year old could comprehend simply by reading.

Sure I can read. We've been talking about voter fraud and you gave
google links to Acorn. Now we're inexplicably talking about Acorn.

Can you read? Why don't you provide information about the fraud you
HAVE indicted; busing multiple voters for instance?

As I ponder this it occurs to me that Republicans blabber about this to
one another, and instruct the stupider ones among them about various
lies and misinformation. Okay, that's how your system works. Buy why
are you talking all this crap here. Mostly everybody knows it's crap.
This is only for idiots who listen to Rush and O'Reilly and believe
anything they say. That's not this crew. So what do you think you're
accomplishing with all this bogus rumor mongering?
--
I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us
with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use.
-- Galileo

Tom · External Since: Feb 03, 2009 Posts: 259

On Mar 18, 9:46 pm, calvin wrote:
> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:27:31 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
> > On Mar 18, 5:53 pm, calvin wrote:
> > > On Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:35:57 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > > Let's take al ook at the evidence and proof you have about all this..
> > > > Then we can make a judgment.
> > > > ...
>
> > > ACORN. And then the Dems wanted ACORN to manage the census,
> > > but thankfully they were exposed for other outrages first.
>
> > No one at ACORN, in ant city in America, was ever charged, much less
> > convicted of, vote fraud.
>
> > Ever. Period.
>
> > You are foisting an urban myth upon us, calvin.
>
> See the Google hits; and there are plenty more
> where they came from.

No charges.
No convictions.
No fraud.
Ever.
Period.

Tom

calvin · External Since: Feb 07, 2009 Posts: 505

On Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:43:18 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 20:02:57 -0700, gtr wrote:
> >On 2012-03-19 02:46:04 +0000, calvin said:
> >
> >> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:27:31 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
> >>> On Mar 18, 5:53ï¿½pm, calvin wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:35:57 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>>>> Let's take al ook at the evidence and proof you have about all this..
> >>>>> Then we can make a judgment.
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>
> >>>> ACORN. ï¿½And then the Dems wanted ACORN to manage the census,
> >>>> but thankfully they were exposed for other outrages first.
> >>>
> >>> No one at ACORN, in ant city in America, was ever charged, much less
> >>> convicted of, vote fraud.
> >>>
> >>> Ever. Period.
> >>>
> >>> You are foisting an urban myth upon us, calvin.
> >>
> >> See the Google hits; and there are plenty more
> >> where they came from.
> >
> >Sure, there are trillions of unrelated google hits, but none of them
> >validate or substatiate a single one of your cliams. Honestly, in
> >political debate, you're absolutely defenseless.
>
> Calvin, understand what you are doing.

I do. It's you who don't understand what you do.

> Opinion does not equal fact or proof.

I never said it did.

> You are merely posting opinions of what you believe to be true. Would
> a prosecutor call a witness to the stand who says, "I *KNOW* he
> committed the crime because John Doe thinks he did" ? This is what
> you are doing. You are merely citing opinion as proof.

No, I'm merely posting opinion. I've repeatedly
said I have no evidence.

By posting internet links I'm merely showing that
others have similar opinions.

You, on the other hand, think that you are showing proof
when you are merel;y posting internet links from the
other side, politically. Repeatedly, for weeks, on all
political subjects, you have been giving references to
leftist views as if they were gospel.

You and others here can stamp your feet and say
that ACORN, for example, is not guilty. Don't tell
it to me. Tell it to the thousands, or millions,
who think ACORN -is- guilty. Stifling me will not
shut them up.

calvin · External Since: Feb 07, 2009 Posts: 505

On Monday, March 19, 2012 12:24:42 AM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
> On Mar 18, 9:46 pm, calvin wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:27:31 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
> > > On Mar 18, 5:53 pm, calvin wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:35:57 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > > > Let's take al ook at the evidence and proof you have about all this.
> > > > > Then we can make a judgment.
> > > > > ...
> >
> > > > ACORN. And then the Dems wanted ACORN to manage the census,
> > > > but thankfully they were exposed for other outrages first.
> >
> > > No one at ACORN, in ant city in America, was ever charged, much less
> > > convicted of, vote fraud.
> >
> > > Ever. Period.
> >
> > > You are foisting an urban myth upon us, calvin.
> >
> > See the Google hits; and there are plenty more
> > where they came from.
>
> No charges.
> No convictions.
> No fraud.
> Ever.
> Period.

Tell it to the internet. Telling it to me won't change
the internet.

Mack A. Damia · External Since: Aug 28, 2010 Posts: 180

On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 00:12:19 -0700 (PDT), calvin
wrote:

>On Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:43:18 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 20:02:57 -0700, gtr wrote:
>> >On 2012-03-19 02:46:04 +0000, calvin said:
>> >
>> >> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:27:31 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
>> >>> On Mar 18, 5:53ï¿½pm, calvin wrote:
>> >>>> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:35:57 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >>>>> Let's take al ook at the evidence and proof you have about all this.
>> >>>>> Then we can make a judgment.
>> >>>>> ...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ACORN. ï¿½And then the Dems wanted ACORN to manage the census,
>> >>>> but thankfully they were exposed for other outrages first.
>> >>>
>> >>> No one at ACORN, in ant city in America, was ever charged, much less
>> >>> convicted of, vote fraud.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ever. Period.
>> >>>
>> >>> You are foisting an urban myth upon us, calvin.
>> >>
>> >> See the Google hits; and there are plenty more
>> >> where they came from.
>> >
>> >Sure, there are trillions of unrelated google hits, but none of them
>> >validate or substatiate a single one of your cliams. Honestly, in
>> >political debate, you're absolutely defenseless.
>>
>> Calvin, understand what you are doing.
>
>I do. It's you who don't understand what you do.
>
>> Opinion does not equal fact or proof.
>
>I never said it did.
>
>> You are merely posting opinions of what you believe to be true. Would
>> a prosecutor call a witness to the stand who says, "I *KNOW* he
>> committed the crime because John Doe thinks he did" ? This is what
>> you are doing. You are merely citing opinion as proof.
>
>No, I'm merely posting opinion. I've repeatedly
>said I have no evidence.
>
>By posting internet links I'm merely showing that
>others have similar opinions.
>
>You, on the other hand, think that you are showing proof
>when you are merel;y posting internet links from the
>other side, politically. Repeatedly, for weeks, on all
>political subjects, you have been giving references to
>leftist views as if they were gospel.

I am posting information from Wiki. It's general information and is
usually not biased. If you see biased information on Wiki, it won't
be there for long as Wiki is self-regulating. Therea re tena of
thousands of people monitoring what goes on Wiki - or it wouldn't
work.
>
>You and others here can stamp your feet and say
>that ACORN, for example, is not guilty. Don't tell
>it to me. Tell it to the thousands, or millions,
>who think ACORN -is- guilty. Stifling me will not
>shut them up.

I haven't heard the term ACORN for at least a year - probably longer.
From what I gather there were a few isolated incidents by low-level
workers that had nothing to do with voting. It was the Republicans
who blew the situation out of proportion - one of their favorite
tricks.

You can't sling your BS around here, Calvin; there are too many of us
who are savvy about what is going on. The Republicans are transparent
in getting rid of the black man as soon as they can by any means
possible.

Now, say three Hail Hillarys and don't eat black jelly beans for a
month.
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moviePig · External Since: Aug 08, 2005 Posts: 2457

On Mar 19, 2:12 am, calvin wrote:
> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:43:18 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 20:02:57 -0700, gtr wrote:
> > >On 2012-03-19 02:46:04 +0000, calvin said:
>
> > >> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:27:31 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
> > >>> On Mar 18, 5:53 pm, calvin wrote:
> > >>>> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:35:57 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >>>>> Let's take al ook at the evidence and proof you have about all this.
> > >>>>> Then we can make a judgment.
> > >>>>> ...
>
> > >>>> ACORN. And then the Dems wanted ACORN to manage the census,
> > >>>> but thankfully they were exposed for other outrages first.
>
> > >>> No one at ACORN, in ant city in America, was ever charged, much less
> > >>> convicted of, vote fraud.
>
> > >>> Ever. Period.
>
> > >>> You are foisting an urban myth upon us, calvin.
>
> > >> See the Google hits; and there are plenty more
> > >> where they came from.
>
> > >Sure, there are trillions of unrelated google hits, but none of them
> > >validate or substatiate a single one of your cliams. Honestly, in
> > >political debate, you're absolutely defenseless.
>
> > Calvin, understand what you are doing.
>
> I do. It's you who don't understand what you do.
>
> > Opinion does not equal fact or proof.
>
> I never said it did.
>
> > You are merely posting opinions of what you believe to be true. Would
> > a prosecutor call a witness to the stand who says, "I *KNOW* he
> > committed the crime because John Doe thinks he did" ? This is what
> > you are doing. You are merely citing opinion as proof.
>
> No, I'm merely posting opinion. I've repeatedly
> said I have no evidence.
>
> By posting internet links I'm merely showing that
> others have similar opinions.
>
> You, on the other hand, think that you are showing proof
> when you are merel;y posting internet links from the
> other side, politically. Repeatedly, for weeks, on all
> political subjects, you have been giving references to
> leftist views as if they were gospel.
>
> You and others here can stamp your feet and say
> that ACORN, for example, is not guilty. Don't tell
> it to me. Tell it to the thousands, or millions,
> who think ACORN -is- guilty. Stifling me will not
> shut them up.

So, you're adding to an orgy of smoke, believing that enough of it
will amount to fire. Hell, even a boy scout with two sticks knows
better...

--

- - - - - - - -
YOUR taste at work...
http://www.moviepig.com

trotsky · External Since: Dec 07, 2004 Posts: 2859

On 3/18/12 11:24 PM, Tom wrote:
> On Mar 18, 9:46 pm, calvin wrote:
>> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:27:31 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
>>> On Mar 18, 5:53 pm, calvin wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:35:57 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>> Let's take al ook at the evidence and proof you have about all this.
>>>>> Then we can make a judgment.
>>>>> ...
>>
>>>> ACORN. And then the Dems wanted ACORN to manage the census,
>>>> but thankfully they were exposed for other outrages first.
>>
>>> No one at ACORN, in ant city in America, was ever charged, much less
>>> convicted of, vote fraud.
>>
>>> Ever. Period.
>>
>>> You are foisting an urban myth upon us, calvin.
>>
>> See the Google hits; and there are plenty more
>> where they came from.
>
> No charges.
> No convictions.
> No fraud.
> Ever.
> Period.

It's just the opposite, actually--Acorn made an outstanding effort to
get voters registered that Repugs were trying desperately to
disenfranchise. Now, with voter ID laws and "redistricting" it's gotten
even worse.

gtr · External Since: Feb 17, 2010 Posts: 155

On 2012-03-19 07:12:19 +0000, calvin said:

> No, I'm merely posting opinion. I've repeatedly
> said I have no evidence.

That's not true. You've repeatedly said crimes were occuring that left
no evidence and that logically these were what proved they were true.

You've said that Acorn had violated crimes repeatedly and then said
"google it". So you're dancing around the idea that all this recycled
rumor-mongering is information, not opinion.

I don't understand your rationale. Telling intelligent people the same
cut-and-paste BS that you are absorbed with. You're a troll; you want
attention and try to get it by reciting political agitprop.

I saw you had a new on-topic post on a film yesterday, but just seeing
that it was you made me reticient to read it and get suckered in to the
next cycle of strum und drang. That's no fun: You are shaping an image
of yourself as a noisemaking buffoon. I wish you wouldn't do that.
--
I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us
with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use.
-- Galileo

calvin · External Since: Feb 07, 2009 Posts: 505

On Monday, March 19, 2012 11:14:27 AM UTC-4, gtr wrote:
> ...
> I saw you had a new on-topic post on a film yesterday, but just seeing
> that it was you made me reticient to read it and get suckered in to the
> next cycle of strum und drang. That's no fun: You are shaping an image
> of yourself as a noisemaking buffoon. I wish you wouldn't do that.
> ...

I wish I wasn't perceived that way; but as long as you
don't perceive an extreme purveyor of hatred against
the right as M.A.D. demonstrates himself to be, over
and over, then I can't take your complaint against
me seriously. I know I'm surrounded by leftists here,
and it's a regrettable sign of my usenet addiction
that I can't just let them be. But until you can see
the content of their political posts as being the same
thing that you complain about the content of mine being,
but from the other side, then complaints about my content
fall on deaf ears.

(There's nothing political about my post on the Godard
movie, by the way. Nor was there in my post that began
this thread, nor in any post about a past-film.)

Mack A. Damia · External Since: Aug 28, 2010 Posts: 180

On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:58:15 -0700 (PDT), calvin
wrote:

>On Monday, March 19, 2012 11:14:27 AM UTC-4, gtr wrote:
>> ...
>> I saw you had a new on-topic post on a film yesterday, but just seeing
>> that it was you made me reticient to read it and get suckered in to the
>> next cycle of strum und drang. That's no fun: You are shaping an image
>> of yourself as a noisemaking buffoon. I wish you wouldn't do that.
>> ...
>
>I wish I wasn't perceived that way; but as long as you
>don't perceive an extreme purveyor of hatred against
>the right as M.A.D. demonstrates himself to be, over
>and over, then I can't take your complaint against
>me seriously.

My only problem with the right is their unbridled disrespect of the
office of the presidency. I personally would line them up and shoot
them.

The Birther movement - the "Muslim" movement - what else?

> I know I'm surrounded by leftists here,

Relax. We don't torture.

>and it's a regrettable sign of my usenet addiction
>that I can't just let them be. But until you can see
>the content of their political posts as being the same
>thing that you complain about the content of mine being,
>but from the other side, then complaints about my content
>fall on deaf ears.

We got into this because I mentioned that film distributors under
Republican administrations were reluctant to release controversial
films depicting minors in sexual situations. You disagreed, even
though I got support from others.
--

Tom · External Since: Feb 03, 2009 Posts: 259

On Mar 19, 2:14 am, calvin wrote:
> On Monday, March 19, 2012 12:24:42 AM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
> > On Mar 18, 9:46 pm, calvin wrote:
> > > On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:27:31 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
> > > > On Mar 18, 5:53 pm, calvin wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:35:57 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > > > > Let's take al ook at the evidence and proof you have about all this.
> > > > > > Then we can make a judgment.
> > > > > > ...
>
> > > > > ACORN. And then the Dems wanted ACORN to manage the census,
> > > > > but thankfully they were exposed for other outrages first.
>
> > > > No one at ACORN, in ant city in America, was ever charged, much less
> > > > convicted of, vote fraud.
>
> > > > Ever. Period.
>
> > > > You are foisting an urban myth upon us, calvin.
>
> > > See the Google hits; and there are plenty more
> > > where they came from.
>
> > No charges.
> > No convictions.
> > No fraud.
> > Ever.
> > Period.
>
> Tell it to the internet. Telling it to me won't change
> the internet.

Show me a cite with an arrest record or guilty verdict. So far, I
haven't seen one.

Tom

trotsky · External Since: Dec 07, 2004 Posts: 2859

On 3/19/12 7:56 PM, Tom wrote:
> On Mar 19, 2:14 am, calvin wrote:
>> On Monday, March 19, 2012 12:24:42 AM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
>>> On Mar 18, 9:46 pm, calvin wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:27:31 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 18, 5:53 pm, calvin wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:35:57 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>>>> Let's take al ook at the evidence and proof you have about all this.
>>>>>>> Then we can make a judgment.
>>>>>>> ...
>>
>>>>>> ACORN. And then the Dems wanted ACORN to manage the census,
>>>>>> but thankfully they were exposed for other outrages first.
>>
>>>>> No one at ACORN, in ant city in America, was ever charged, much less
>>>>> convicted of, vote fraud.
>>
>>>>> Ever. Period.
>>
>>>>> You are foisting an urban myth upon us, calvin.
>>
>>>> See the Google hits; and there are plenty more
>>>> where they came from.
>>
>>> No charges.
>>> No convictions.
>>> No fraud.
>>> Ever.
>>> Period.
>>
>> Tell it to the internet. Telling it to me won't change
>> the internet.
>
> Show me a cite with an arrest record or guilty verdict. So far, I
> haven't seen one.

The "internet" has!