Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye(1950) & links

Stone me · External Since: Jan 11, 2009 Posts: 25

I watched this and I was intrigued by the co-star's inability
to act.
Didn't think Cagney's performance was his best either.

Barbara Payton's story is one I have never read before.
Tragedy.
Didn't someone once say that Hollywood is a place
where people from Iowa mistake each other for actors?

This led me to the story of Tom Neal, B movie star.
Astonishing story, and I suspect he was in need of psychiatric
help, long before the story became such a tragedy.

Neal acted in the noted Noir film Detour(1945), which is
viewable on youtube in 11 parts. Resolution not good.

Stone me.

william · External Since: Apr 16, 2009 Posts: 94

On Oct 24, 3:09 pm, "Stone me" <sun... DeleteThis @boulevard.hwd> wrote:
>
> Neal acted in the noted Noir film Detour(1945), which is
> viewable on youtube in 11 parts. Resolution not good.
>
You can download it from archive.org and other PD sites on the 'net.
There isn't a decent print of that flick anywhere (it seems) and now
that it's PD, a good print in the future is unlikely. It really is a
singular film and far, far better than the usual schlock with fedoras
that gets called "noir." Doom, distortion and doom. A fine little
flick.

William
www.williamahearn.com

Dave in Toronto · External Since: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 104

On Oct 24, 3:09 pm, "Stone me" <sun... DeleteThis @boulevard.hwd> wrote:
> I watched this and I was intrigued by the co-star's inability
> to act.
> Didn't think Cagney's performance was his best either.
>
> Stone me.

A very ho-hum movie in all directions - Cagney was past his best and
was physically showing signs of wear - I recently read Horace McCoy's
novel and it was a real eye opener, the book is a fine crime novel
about small town corruption, the movie simplified the complex plot and
turned it into an outdated routine Cagney vehicle.

Dave in Toronto

gerry · External Since: Apr 23, 2007 Posts: 18

On Oct 24, 3:09 pm, "Stone me" <sun....TakeThisOut@boulevard.hwd> wrote:
> I watched this and I was intrigued by the co-star's inability
> to act.
> Didn't think Cagney's performance was his best either.
>
> Barbara Payton's story is one I have never read before.
> Tragedy.
> Didn't someone once say that Hollywood is a place
> where people from Iowa mistake each other for actors?
>
> This led me to the story of Tom Neal, B movie star.
> Astonishing story, and I suspect he was in need of psychiatric
> help, long before the story became such a tragedy.
>
> Neal acted in the noted Noir film Detour(1945), which is
> viewable on youtube in 11 parts. Resolution not good.
>
> Stone me.

Cagney's performance in Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye may not be up to his
performance in White Heat, but no one was better playing a tough
criminal, although Steve Cochran came close. What hurts Kiss Tomorrow
Goodbye is that the movie is told as a flashback. You already know
the outcome.

The movie is out on DVD in pretty good shape, I have the DVD. If you
want to see a movie that takes a nihilist point of view towards life
in the 1950s, this movie is for you. There is a great scene with Ward
Bond as the crooked police chief, when the chief finds out he can't
bump Cagney's character off, Cagney recorded him taking a payoff. You
don't see that sort of police corruption in many movies, then or
now.

I thought Barbara Peyton as Cagney's soon to be ex-girlfriend was
fine. With all the parasites who infest Hollywood, drug dealers and
con men/agents and lying studio executives, it is not that surprising
that performers got chewed up working in the Dream Factories, even
those who started out normal.

Stone me · External Since: Jan 11, 2009 Posts: 25

"gerry" <2gerrytwo DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 24, 3:09 pm, "Stone me" <sun... DeleteThis @boulevard.hwd> wrote:
> I watched this and I was intrigued by the co-star's inability
> to act.
> Didn't think Cagney's performance was his best either.
>
> Barbara Payton's story is one I have never read before.
> Tragedy.
> Didn't someone once say that Hollywood is a place
> where people from Iowa mistake each other for actors?
>
> This led me to the story of Tom Neal, B movie star.
> Astonishing story, and I suspect he was in need of psychiatric
> help, long before the story became such a tragedy.
>
> Neal acted in the noted Noir film Detour(1945), which is
> viewable on youtube in 11 parts. Resolution not good.
>
> Stone me.

Cagney's performance in Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye may not be up to his
performance in White Heat, but no one was better playing a tough
criminal, although Steve Cochran came close. What hurts Kiss Tomorrow
Goodbye is that the movie is told as a flashback. You already know
the outcome.

The movie is out on DVD in pretty good shape, I have the DVD. If you
want to see a movie that takes a nihilist point of view towards life
in the 1950s, this movie is for you. There is a great scene with Ward
Bond as the crooked police chief, when the chief finds out he can't
bump Cagney's character off, Cagney recorded him taking a payoff. You
don't see that sort of police corruption in many movies, then or
now.

I thought Barbara Peyton as Cagney's soon to be ex-girlfriend was
fine. With all the parasites who infest Hollywood, drug dealers and
con men/agents and lying studio executives, it is not that surprising
that performers got chewed up working in the Dream Factories, even
those who started out normal.
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> I thought Barbara Peyton as Cagney's soon to be ex-girlfriend was
fine.
Since we disagree on such a fundamental point, and nothing has been
put forward to discuss it further, that closes it for me.
Thanks for your opinions.

Stone me.