"Dollhouse" reference to Kubrick?

kelpzoidzl · External Since: Jan 17, 2009 Posts: 75

"Suppose someone were to go to some wild region like the island of Ezo
and recite the famous poem:

How I think of it—
dim, dim in the morning mist of Akashi Bay,
that boat moving out of sight beyond the islands.

If the person told the ignorant natives of Ezo that he himself had
composed the poem, they would probably believe him. The scholars of
China and Japan are equally as gullible."

--Nichiren writing in 1273 and quite true today.

dc

Don Stockbauer · External Since: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 31

On May 14, 7:00 pm, kelpzoidzl <kelpzoi... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> "Suppose someone were to go to some wild region like the island of Ezo
> and recite the famous poem:
>
> How I think of it—
> dim, dim in the morning mist of Akashi Bay,
> that boat moving out of sight beyond the islands.
>
> If the person told the ignorant natives of Ezo that he himself had
> composed the poem, they would probably believe him. The scholars of
> China and Japan are equally as gullible."
>
> --Nichiren writing in 1273 and quite true today.

Way the Universe works. Adapt to it.

kelpzoidzl · External Since: Jan 17, 2009 Posts: 75

On May 14, 7:08 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 14, 7:00 pm, kelpzoidzl <kelpzoi....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "Suppose someone were to go to some wild region like the island of Ezo
> > and recite the famous poem:
>
> > How I think of it—
> > dim, dim in the morning mist of Akashi Bay,
> > that boat moving out of sight beyond the islands.
>
> > If the person told the ignorant natives of Ezo that he himself had
> > composed the poem, they would probably believe him. The scholars of
> > China and Japan are equally as gullible."
>
> > --Nichiren writing in 1273 and quite true today.
>
> Way the Universe works. Adapt to it.

Way that people are deceived. Illuminate it.

dc.

Don Stockbauer · External Since: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 31

On May 15, 9:30 am, kelpzoidzl <kelpzoi... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 14, 7:08 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 14, 7:00 pm, kelpzoidzl <kelpzoi... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Suppose someone were to go to some wild region like the island of Ezo
> > > and recite the famous poem:
>
> > > How I think of it—
> > > dim, dim in the morning mist of Akashi Bay,
> > > that boat moving out of sight beyond the islands.
>
> > > If the person told the ignorant natives of Ezo that he himself had
> > > composed the poem, they would probably believe him. The scholars of
> > > China and Japan are equally as gullible."
>
> > > --Nichiren writing in 1273 and quite true today.
>
> > Way the Universe works. Adapt to it.
>
> Way that people are deceived. Illuminate it.

Be sure the light you use is correct and useful.

Don Stockbauer · External Since: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 31

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
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kelpzoidzl · External Since: Jan 17, 2009 Posts: 75

On May 15, 12:05 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
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> All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

So play Warcraft. Kill things and help the GB grow into a viable
commercial enterprise

dc

Don Stockbauer · External Since: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 31

On May 15, 3:17 pm, kelpzoidzl <kelpzoi....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 15, 12:05 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
> > All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
>
> So play Warcraft. Kill things and help the GB grow into a viable
> commercial enterprise

Only play real life games.

kelpzoidzl · External Since: Jan 17, 2009 Posts: 75

"A poor man came to visit a wealthy friend. Late into the night, the
two friends ate, drank, and talked. When the poor man went to bed, he
fell into a deep sleep.

In the middle of the night, a messenger came to inform the rich man
that he must go immediately to a distant land far away. Before he
left, he wanted to do something for his poor friend to show how much
he cared for him. But he did not want to wake his friend from such a
deep sleep.

So the wealthy friend sewed a beautiful colored gemstone of
inestimable worth, inside the hem of his poor friend’s robe. This
jewel had the power to satisfy all of one’s desires.

The next morning, the poor man awoke to find himself alone in his
wealthy friend’s house. Totally unaware of anything that had taken
place while he was sleeping, he wandered off.

The poor man traveled from place to place, looking for work. All the
while, he was completely unaware that he possessed a priceless gem in
the hem of his robe.

A long time passed until one day, by chance, the wealthy friend came
upon the poor man in the street.

Seeing the man’s impoverished condition, the wealthy friend asked him:

“Why have you allowed yourself to become so poor? You could have used
the jewel that I gave you to live your life in comfort. You must still
have it, yet you are living so miserably. Why don’t you use the gem to
get what you need? You can have anything you want!”

Bewildered, the poor man fumbled through the inside of his robe and,
with the help of his friend, found the gem. Ashamed of his ignorance
yet overcome with joy, he realized for the first time the depth of his
friend’s compassion. From then on, the poor man was able to live
comfortably and happily."

This is just how it works. Nice ancient parable.

dc

kelpzoidzl · External Since: Jan 17, 2009 Posts: 75

On May 16, 6:24 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Are you speaking of Buddhism, or the Global Brain?

He's talking about anything that is not included in his political
obsessions.

dc

kelpzoidzl · External Since: Jan 17, 2009 Posts: 75

On May 15, 7:50 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Only play real life games.

What are video games then, Chopped Liver?

Srsly the majority of young people, with any means whatsoever, (males
especially) in "developed countries," are living in a vitual reality
in real life.

Warcraft itself is the top dog for global brain shenanigans by any
standards.

dc

kelpzoidzl · External Since: Jan 17, 2009 Posts: 75

back to the topic.

Dollhouse is 15th place in FOX ratings and down somewhere in the
middle on all the rating.

Discussion on whether it will be renewed.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/16/dollhouse-renewal-the-devil-fox-knows/18781

I hope it is renewed because I think Whedon's ideas evolve slowly

dc

Don Stockbauer · External Since: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 31

On May 16, 12:57 pm, kelpzoidzl <kelpzoi....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 16, 4:03 am, "Cosmic Gnome"
>
>
> The practice of learning to stop the mind is ancient.

What's the problem? The mind has a "STOP" instruction, yes?

Cosmic Gnome · External Since: May 12, 2009 Posts: 13

"kelpzoidzl" <kelpzoidzl.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4dde9b79-bf69-480c-9ae7-a54a4b4c2e81@y6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On May 16, 6:24 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Are you speaking of Buddhism, or the Global Brain?

Neither. I was referring to fascist cults like the one the poster is
attempting to inflict on others, by persistently hijacking this newsgroup
with irrational and disturbing nonsense.

The Global Brain is merely a concept, an 'organicist' metaphor for the
internet and related communications technologies. Some reflections:

"What does it mean to say of an assemblage that it thinks, or of its acts
and dispositions, its material inscriptions and configurations, that they
constitute a thought? Readers of Douglas Hofstadter's Gödel, Escher, Bach
will be familiar with the notion that an ant colony can be supposed to
think, that its thoughts may take the form of streams of ants setting down
new trails of pheremones or following existing ones, and that the
consciousness of the colony is not a telepathic unity, a gathering together
of many tiny ant consciousnesses, but a property that the colony only
possesses at a certain level of organisation: it is conscious, but its
constituent elements are not. What it thinks is a weaving together of the
assemblage and its environment: not an encapsulated mental content, but the
organisation by the colony's activity of a mass of twigs, leaves, chemicals,
live ants, dead ants, affordances and obstructions into a pattern with its
own endogenous stability and dynamism. A thought in this sense is a
material, perishable thing - a sufficient quantity of boiling water could
entirely efface it - but it is also "immortal" inasmuch as it persists
beyond the vital horizon of individual ants. Death is nothing to it
(although extinction is another matter).

I suggested a while back that the dialectic of thematic variation and
axiomatic invariance in the Viz strip "Fru T. Bunn" approached "the
consistency of a thought", and although it was partly meant as a sort of
hyperbolic comic flourish I think this suggestion did have a certain
validity. "A thought" is indeed that kind of thing, and to say that "love is
a thought" is to say that it proposes and propagates itself as a distinct
form with its own way of insisting within and against the world. When Blake
declares that he must create his own system or be enslaved by another man's,
he is simultaneously trying on a bit of bravado about creative personal
originality and recognising that it is at the level of systems, not
inspirations, that the difference between "Blake" and "Swedenborg" will have
to realize itself. A thought is something that systematically differentiates
itself from what it doesn't think, remaining in tension with an un-thought;
love makes a world that is not the world in which each of the lovers
separately existed, a world that cannot be made by adding their separate
worlds together.

Where assemblages involving human beings are concerned, it is of course not
correct to say that the assemblage thinks but its constituent elements do
not. People think. We're not ants, and the purpose of this kind of talk is
not to make people appear ant-like (and indifferently squishable). However,
there is a specific sense in which we "do not think" what we, collectively,
think; in which the thought of the assemblage is not the thought of an
individual or the sum of a collection of individual thought processes. It is
a question of cognitive mapping, of the resources available within my
language, or yours, for identifying and separating the parts of the thought
we compose together. There is no question of not attempting such a mapping,
of behaving as if one were a dumb particle being shunted around by vast
impersonal forces beyond human understanding, although that conceit can be
fun to entertain sometimes. But no such mapping can ever be total: if love
"is a thought", there is no thinking of either of the lovers that can take
complete cognition of it."

"He's talking about anything that is not included in his political
obsessions."

Again, you are oblivious to your own performative contradictions: for
someone who - ridiculously - claims that (your extremely disturbing version
of) Buddhism is apolitical, why do you pollute this newsgroup with endless
fascist spam?

Don Stockbauer · External Since: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 31

On May 17, 5:43 am, "Cosmic Gnome"
<hundredmillionlifeti... RemoveThis @fastmail.fm> wrote:
> "kelpzoidzl" <kelpzoi... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4dde9b79-bf69-480c-9ae7-a54a4b4c2e81@y6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On May 16, 6:24 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Are you speaking of Buddhism, or the Global Brain?
>
> Neither. I was referring to fascist cults like the one the poster is
> attempting to inflict on others, by persistently hijacking this newsgroup
> with irrational and disturbing nonsense.
>
> The Global Brain is merely a concept, an 'organicist' metaphor for the
> internet and related communications technologies. Some reflections:
>
> "What does it mean to say of an assemblage that it thinks, or of its acts
> and dispositions, its material inscriptions and configurations, that they
> constitute a thought? Readers of Douglas Hofstadter's Gödel, Escher, Bach
> will be familiar with the notion that an ant colony can be supposed to
> think, that its thoughts may take the form of streams of ants setting down
> new trails of pheremones or following existing ones, and that the
> consciousness of the colony is not a telepathic unity, a gathering together
> of many tiny ant consciousnesses, but a property that the colony only
> possesses at a certain level of organisation: it is conscious, but its
> constituent elements are not. What it thinks is a weaving together of the
> assemblage and its environment: not an encapsulated mental content, but the
> organisation by the colony's activity of a mass of twigs, leaves, chemicals,
> live ants, dead ants, affordances and obstructions into a pattern with its
> own endogenous stability and dynamism. A thought in this sense is a
> material, perishable thing - a sufficient quantity of boiling water could
> entirely efface it - but it is also "immortal" inasmuch as it persists
> beyond the vital horizon of individual ants. Death is nothing to it
> (although extinction is another matter).
>
> I suggested a while back that the dialectic of thematic variation and
> axiomatic invariance in the Viz strip "Fru T. Bunn" approached "the
> consistency of a thought", and although it was partly meant as a sort of
> hyperbolic comic flourish I think this suggestion did have a certain
> validity. "A thought" is indeed that kind of thing, and to say that "love is
> a thought" is to say that it proposes and propagates itself as a distinct
> form with its own way of insisting within and against the world. When Blake
> declares that he must create his own system or be enslaved by another man's,
> he is simultaneously trying on a bit of bravado about creative personal
> originality and recognising that it is at the level of systems, not
> inspirations, that the difference between "Blake" and "Swedenborg" will have
> to realize itself. A thought is something that systematically differentiates
> itself from what it doesn't think, remaining in tension with an un-thought;
> love makes a world that is not the world in which each of the lovers
> separately existed, a world that cannot be made by adding their separate
> worlds together.
>
> Where assemblages involving human beings are concerned, it is of course not
> correct to say that the assemblage thinks but its constituent elements do
> not. People think. We're not ants, and the purpose of this kind of talk is
> not to make people appear ant-like (and indifferently squishable). However,
> there is a specific sense in which we "do not think" what we, collectively,
> think; in which the thought of the assemblage is not the thought of an
> individual or the sum of a collection of individual thought processes. It is
> a question of cognitive mapping, of the resources available within my
> language, or yours, for identifying and separating the parts of the thought
> we compose together. There is no question of not attempting such a mapping,
> of behaving as if one were a dumb particle being shunted around by vast
> impersonal forces beyond human understanding, although that conceit can be
> fun to entertain sometimes. But no such mapping can ever be total: if love
> "is a thought", there is no thinking of either of the lovers that can take
> complete cognition of it."
>
> "He's talking about anything that is not included in his political
> obsessions."
>
> Again, you are oblivious to your own performative contradictions: for
> someone who - ridiculously - claims that (your extremely disturbing version
> of) Buddhism is apolitical, why do you pollute this newsgroup with endless
> fascist spam?

Debate forms the Global Brain.

Don Stockbauer · External Since: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 31

On May 17, 5:54 am, "Cosmic Gnome"
<hundredmillionlifeti....DeleteThis@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> "Don Stockbauer" <donstockba....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:68fe76a7-23ef-4ae9-b90c-d2ea80c99596@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> On May 16, 12:57 pm, kelpzoidzl <kelpzoi....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The practice of learning to stop the mind is ancient.
>
> The practice of human sacrifice is ancient too, as are incest and
> cannibalism. Presumably you find them attractive too.
>
> "What's the problem? The mind has a "STOP" instruction, yes?"
>
> >Alzheimers does not make the mind stop babbling. Stopping the mind in
> >the yogic sense is not in any way related to vegetative states.
>
> It clearly hasn't stopped you from babbling either. Why don't you go and do
> something constructive, like go and make love to a carrot?

Perhaps taking the carrots and making a puree of them in a Cuisinart
would be best, so that the fully erect member can be thrust into the
slush.

Cosmic Gnome · External Since: May 12, 2009 Posts: 13

"Don Stockbauer" <donstockbauer.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:68fe76a7-23ef-4ae9-b90c-d2ea80c99596@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
On May 16, 12:57 pm, kelpzoidzl <kelpzoi....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> The practice of learning to stop the mind is ancient.

The practice of human sacrifice is ancient too, as are incest and
cannibalism. Presumably you find them attractive too.

"What's the problem? The mind has a "STOP" instruction, yes?"

>Alzheimers does not make the mind stop babbling. Stopping the mind in
>the yogic sense is not in any way related to vegetative states.

It clearly hasn't stopped you from babbling either. Why don't you go and do
something constructive, like go and make love to a carrot?

kelpzoidzl · External Since: Jan 17, 2009 Posts: 75

On May 17, 2:45 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 16, 12:57 pm, kelpzoidzl <kelpzoi....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 16, 4:03 am, "Cosmic Gnome"
>
> > The practice of learning to stop the mind is ancient.
>
> What's the problem? The mind has a "STOP" instruction, yes?

But you can't "think" it to stop.

dc

kelpzoidzl · External Since: Jan 17, 2009 Posts: 75

On May 17, 3:43 am, "Cosmic Gnome"
<hundredmillionlifeti....RemoveThis@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> "kelpzoidzl" <kelpzoi....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4dde9b79-bf69-480c-9ae7-a54a4b4c2e81@y6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On May 16, 6:24 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Are you speaking of Buddhism, or the Global Brain?
>
> Neither. I was referring to fascist cults like the one the poster is

You are a confused person having a cyclical meltdown again, Padraig.

Lighten up. You have Zero idea what you are taking about or what I am
talking about.

All these meaningless words you string together with great hostility
is the symptom of a troubled mind that could certainly learn to settle
the mind and stop it.

dc

kelpzoidzl · External Since: Jan 17, 2009 Posts: 75

On May 17, 3:54 am, "Cosmic Gnome"
<hundredmillionlifeti... RemoveThis @fastmail.fm> wrote:
> "Don Stockbauer" <donstockba... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:68fe76a7-23ef-4ae9-b90c-d2ea80c99596@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> On May 16, 12:57 pm, kelpzoidzl <kelpzoi... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The practice of learning to stop the mind is ancient.
>
> The practice of human sacrifice is ancient too, as are incest and
> cannibalism. Presumably you find them attractive too.
>
> "What's the problem? The mind has a "STOP" instruction, yes?"
>
> >Alzheimers does not make the mind stop babbling. Stopping the mind in
> >the yogic sense is not in any way related to vegetative states.
>
> It clearly hasn't stopped you from babbling either. Why don't you go and do
> something constructive, like go and make love to a carrot?

Learn to meditate chump you'll live longer and be healthier and less
frantic.

dc

kelpzoidzl · External Since: Jan 17, 2009 Posts: 75

On May 17, 7:22 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Debate forms the Global Brain.- Hide quoted text -

"debate" is a mind at cross purposes=fail.

dc