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Steven J. Weller
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: I See Dead...?
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I've had an idea kicking around for a while now, and my recent fish-
related tragedy has pushed me over the edge into actually asking about
it.

Not to go to far into details, but does anyone here know of any films
(or for that matter, just stories) about ghosts, of things <other>
than human beings?

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Alan Brooks
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Steven J. Weller" <az941 DeleteThis @lafn.org> wrote:

> I've had an idea kicking around for a while now, and my recent fish-
> related tragedy has pushed me over the edge into actually asking about
> it.
>
> Not to go to far into details, but does anyone here know of any films
> (or for that matter, just stories) about ghosts, of things <other>
> than human beings?

Isn't the idea of a ghost that it's a soul that's somehow not yet "at rest"?
So in theory only creatures with souls can become ghosts. Right? So, no
bunny-ghosts, no guppy-ghosts, no kitty-ghosts.

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Paulo Joe Jingy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:10 am    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Steven J. Weller wrote:
> I've had an idea kicking around for a while now, and my recent fish-
> related tragedy has pushed me over the edge into actually asking about
> it.
>
> Not to go to far into details, but does anyone here know of any films
> (or for that matter, just stories) about ghosts, of things <other>
> than human beings?

Púca (Pooka)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%BAca


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Paulo Joe Jingy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:10 am    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Paulo Joe Jingy wrote:
> Steven J. Weller wrote:
>> I've had an idea kicking around for a while now, and my recent fish-
>> related tragedy has pushed me over the edge into actually asking about
>> it.
>>
>> Not to go to far into details, but does anyone here know of any films
>> (or for that matter, just stories) about ghosts, of things <other>
>> than human beings?
>
> Púca (Pooka)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%BAca


I should read what I link to before I link to it.

This is what I remember.

"The Pooka is a ghost horse in Crewel Lye, a fantasy novel by Piers
Anthony."

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Schlockhack
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:10 am    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I read a lot about paranormal stuff. I have come across a few stories
about the ghosts of dogs appearing with the ghosts of their human
companions. Also, I met a woman from Kenya who told me that she once
saw ghosts cats.
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Bert Coules
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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If you go with the theory that ghosts are recordings of the past somehow
captured by the fabric of buildings or the landscape, then said ghosts can,
I suppose, be of almost anything, though the replaying of a particular
event - rather than just the person or people involved in it - might be the
most productive: the train wreck, the plane crash, the
murder-by-bludgeoning, the march-past of a mighty army with all its horses
(or motor vehicles, depending on how far back you want to go), its weapons
and all the rest...

The best fictional treatment I know of this is a 1972 UK TV play called The
Stone Tape by Nigel Kneale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stone_Tape).

Bert
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nmstevens
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Oct 20, 3:00 am, "Bert Coules" <m... RemoveThis @bertcoules.co.uk> wrote:
> If you go with the theory that ghosts are recordings of the past somehow
> captured by the fabric of buildings or the landscape, then said ghosts can,
> I suppose, be of almost anything, though the replaying of a particular
> event - rather than just the person or people involved in it - might be the
> most productive: the train wreck, the plane crash, the
> murder-by-bludgeoning, the march-past of a mighty army with all its horses
> (or motor vehicles, depending on how far back you want to go), its weapons
> and all the rest...
>
> The best fictional treatment I know of this is a 1972 UK TV play called The
> Stone Tape by Nigel Kneale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stone_Tape).
>
> Bert

Dang -- that was exactly what I was going to mention -- but you beat
me to it -- especially the ending of Stone Tapes, with the notion that
they somehow tuned the frequency "way back" -- far into the deep time,
essentially replaying some kind of nightmarish recording of some kind
of "elemental" thing.

NMS
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nmstevens
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Oct 20, 3:00 am, "Bert Coules" <m....RemoveThis@bertcoules.co.uk> wrote:
> If you go with the theory that ghosts are recordings of the past somehow
> captured by the fabric of buildings or the landscape, then said ghosts can,
> I suppose, be of almost anything, though the replaying of a particular
> event - rather than just the person or people involved in it - might be the
> most productive: the train wreck, the plane crash, the
> murder-by-bludgeoning, the march-past of a mighty army with all its horses
> (or motor vehicles, depending on how far back you want to go), its weapons
> and all the rest...
>
> The best fictional treatment I know of this is a 1972 UK TV play called The
> Stone Tape by Nigel Kneale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stone_Tape).
>
> Bert

And to follow up -- there's the Quatermass and the Pit, in which
reports of ghosts actually turn out to be visions of long-dead
Martians -- so, in essence you have "ghosts" of aliens.

And that's not the only "alien ghost" movie -- you also have Ghosts of
Mars and you have that Final Fantasy CGI movie in which the earth has
been ravaged by these phantom beings that turn out to be, literally,
the ghosts of creatures from another world.

NMS
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Ovum
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Dean Koontz wrote a popular series of novels featuring a guy called
Odd Thomas. In one of the novels, he helps solve the mystery with the
help of a ghost Laborador Retriever and -- yes -- the ghost of Elv*s.

Not to mention, there's that weird song from the '70s, "Wildfire,"
about a ghostly horse and its rider.

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Your Mom
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:10 am    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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There are all kinds of ghostly horsemen. I assume they don't ride live
steeds as they would probably spook the horses. And what about the
devil's herd that the ghost riders in the sky take care of? No way are
live cows wandering through the atmosphere.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Oct 22, 4:47 am, Your Mom <alex.s.f....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are all kinds of ghostly horsemen. I assume they don't ride live
> steeds as they would probably spook the horses. And what about the
> devil's herd that the ghost riders in the sky take care of? No way are
> live cows wandering through the atmosphere.

God, I hope not.

NMS
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Martin B
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"nmstevens"
> "Your Mom"
>> There are all kinds of ghostly horsemen. I assume they don't ride live
>> steeds as they would probably spook the horses. And what about the
>> devil's herd that the ghost riders in the sky take care of? No way are
>> live cows wandering through the atmosphere.
>
> God, I hope not.

Once I was purchasing produce from an open-air street market. Next to me
was an elderly lady also squeezing tomatoes and smelling melons.

Suddenly, SPLAT! A bird dropping smacked her on the forearm.

She looked down at her dripping forearm and announced, very calmly, "At
times like these, I thank the Lord that cows don't fly."

Marvellous reaction. In my younger days if that had happened to me I
would have raged that the entire universe was against me and gone out on
a self-destructive bender.

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Schlockhack
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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>>> Next to me was an elderly lady also squeezing tomatoes and smelling melons.

A housewife goes into the butcher shop, picks up a chicken, lifts up a
wing and sniffs. She says *feh*, and opens the legs, sniffs, and says
*feh*. She does this with two or three more chickens.

Then she says to the butcher, don't you have any chickens that are
fresher than these?

So the butcher replies,

Listen, lady, you could stand such an inspection?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: I See Dead...? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Oct 20, 5:30 pm, Ovum <lk1... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> Dean Koontz wrote a popular series of novels featuring a guy called
> Odd Thomas. In one of the novels, he helps solve the mystery with the
> help of a ghost Laborador Retriever and -- yes -- the ghost of Elv*s.
>
> Not to mention, there's that weird song from the '70s, "Wildfire,"
> about a ghostly horse and its rider.
>
> .

Recall the song. The girl ran after the horse
and they presumably both froze to death. The
first person telling/singing the tale also died so
he could go riding with them, but it's not revealed how
he died. The owl outside his window presaged his
unexplained demise. I like that. It makes you wonder.

W : )
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