Canon 5D MkII AV cable pin outs

Douglas Tourtelot · External Since: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 31

From the 3.5mm 4-conductor AV plug. Can someone do a quick check on this
for me? I don't have one to test. Probably tip=left out, ring 1=right out,
ring 2=common and sleeve=composite video out. I'd love a confirmation.
Thanks all.

D

Philip Perkins · External Since: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 42

On Nov 4, 12:36 pm, Douglas Tourtelot <dtourte....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
> From the 3.5mm 4-conductor AV plug. Can someone do a quick check on this
> for me? I don't have one to test. Probably tip=left out, ring 1=right out,
> ring 2=common and sleeve=composite video out. I'd love a confirmation.
> Thanks all.
>
> D

I'd guess you were right except that the tip is usually the LEFT
channel, with the ring being the Right.

Philip Perkins

Douglas Tourtelot · External Since: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 31

Hi Phillip,

Isn't that what I said? God, I can't think straight any more. I am finding
that it might be different on the 5D, perhaps tip=composite video, ring
1=right, ring 2=left and sleeve=common. Someone have a continuity tester
and the cable<bg>. I have one and not the other; the reverse is true for my
client. Sigh.

D.

On 11/4/09 12:43 PM, in article
a726a194-d6b2-4118-9002-141b270f9ab2.RemoveThis@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com, "Philip
Perkins" <spamiser.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Nov 4, 12:36 pm, Douglas Tourtelot <dtourte....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>> From the 3.5mm 4-conductor AV plug. Can someone do a quick check on this
>> for me? I don't have one to test. Probably tip=left out, ring 1=right out,
>> ring 2=common and sleeve=composite video out. I'd love a confirmation.
>> Thanks all.
>>
>> D
>
> I'd guess you were right except that the tip is usually the LEFT
> channel, with the ring being the Right.
>
> Philip Perkins

John E. Perkin · External Since: Nov 02, 2009 Posts: 8

Pray tell, what are you trying to make?

John Perkin
www.Bluecowcables.com

Douglas Tourtelot · External Since: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 31

Camera-end Neutricon breakout for a Canon 5D MkII.

D.

On 11/4/09 1:10 PM, in article
113e84b7-1fb6-4d53-abb6-a10b9f26c9ab RemoveThis @v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, "John E.
Perkin" <john.e.perkin RemoveThis @googlemail.com> wrote:

> Pray tell, what are you trying to make?
>
> John Perkin
> www.Bluecowcables.com
>

John E. Perkin · External Since: Nov 02, 2009 Posts: 8

have you seen this?

http://www.slashcam.com/news/single/XLR-audio-for-the-Canon-5D-MKII-7516.html

....but otherwise I must get 5D tails on my website!

John Perkin
www.BlueCowCables.com

Douglas Tourtelot · External Since: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 31

Yeah, that seems to be inputs only. Nice looking tho. This guy wants tails
in and out for a Remote Audio ENG snake. "Remember boys and girls, the
Remote Audio snake and the PSC snake are wired differently<g>"

D.

On 11/4/09 2:48 PM, in article
d6825f9e-2a5e-4aa6-b731-bdf894a71861.TakeThisOut@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, "John E.
Perkin" <john.e.perkin.TakeThisOut@googlemail.com> wrote:

> have you seen this?
>
> http://www.slashcam.com/news/single/XLR-audio-for-the-Canon-5D-MKII-7516.html
>
> ...but otherwise I must get 5D tails on my website!
>
>
>
> John Perkin
> www.BlueCowCables.com

John E. Perkin · External Since: Nov 02, 2009 Posts: 8

....and the Ravenscourt is different again!

There is a mic out between the 2 XLRs, but no pigtail for the audio,
which means it's probably a Pre/Post fade out

....and I'm sure I could work 2 balanced audio receivers in there so
only unbalanced audio would be sent over the last few inches and not
the whole snake/loom.

Douglas Tourtelot · External Since: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 31

> only unbalanced audio would be sent over the last few inches and not
> the whole snake/loom.

Yes correct. Should be no issue.

D.

On 11/4/09 3:15 PM, in article
cc66ad57-eef8-4a78-834e-54b04b99df87.RemoveThis@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, "John E.
Perkin" <john.e.perkin.RemoveThis@googlemail.com> wrote:

> ...and the Ravenscourt is different again!
>
>
> There is a mic out between the 2 XLRs, but no pigtail for the audio,
> which means it's probably a Pre/Post fade out
>
> ...and I'm sure I could work 2 balanced audio receivers in there so
>
> only unbalanced audio would be sent over the last few inches and not
> the whole snake/loom.

John E. Perkin · External Since: Nov 02, 2009 Posts: 8

"Should".... hmm.

Anyway.

If your happy with unbalanced, don't haul around the extra cable and
don't waste money, the 5D isn't going to be able to take the weight of
a loom/snake like camera's with XLRs can, it will strain the inputs on
the camera and the jacks.

I would personally recommend finding some nice screened 2 pair cable,
(you could even use starquad), and wiring one pair to the tape out and
other to the return in on your mixer and two angled jacks at the 5D
end.

Douglas Tourtelot · External Since: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 31

Thanks John.

D.

On 11/4/09 4:24 PM, in article
ed702c0d-9e56-4214-bc48-905bf6514a94 DeleteThis @b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, "John E.
Perkin" <john.e.perkin DeleteThis @googlemail.com> wrote:

> "Should".... hmm.
>
> Anyway.
>
> If your happy with unbalanced, don't haul around the extra cable and
> don't waste money, the 5D isn't going to be able to take the weight of
> a loom/snake like camera's with XLRs can, it will strain the inputs on
> the camera and the jacks.
>
> I would personally recommend finding some nice screened 2 pair cable,
> (you could even use starquad), and wiring one pair to the tape out and
> other to the return in on your mixer and two angled jacks at the 5D
> end.

Sam · External Since: Aug 18, 2009 Posts: 5

On Nov 4, 5:48 pm, "John E. Perkin" <john.e.per... DeleteThis @googlemail.com>
wrote:
> have you seen this?
>
> http://www.slashcam.com/news/single/XLR-audio-for-the-Canon-5D-MKII-7...
>
> ...but otherwise I must get 5D tails on my website!
>
> John Perkinwww.BlueCowCables.com

I've heard lots of bad stuff about the DXA-5D, mostly people
experiencing noise issues from the bit that cancels the AGC. A better
way to go would be to use the Magic Lantern firmware for the 5D, and a
Juiced Link XLR adapter or a better external mixer.

Douglas Tourtelot · External Since: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 31

Sam-

It's not my camera. I would even shoot stills with a Canon, let alone a
movie<g>. I am still trying to find the 4-pin 3.5mm outs for the stupid
thing.

D.

On 11/5/09 8:24 AM, in article
294613c0-d5ae-4de1-bfbd-9718fd5cf81b.TakeThisOut@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com, "Sam"
<sam.mallery.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 4, 5:48 pm, "John E. Perkin" <john.e.per....TakeThisOut@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>> have you seen this?
>>
>> http://www.slashcam.com/news/single/XLR-audio-for-the-Canon-5D-MKII-7...
>>
>> ...but otherwise I must get 5D tails on my website!
>>
>> John Perkinwww.BlueCowCables.com
>
> I've heard lots of bad stuff about the DXA-5D, mostly people
> experiencing noise issues from the bit that cancels the AGC. A better
> way to go would be to use the Magic Lantern firmware for the 5D, and a
> Juiced Link XLR adapter or a better external mixer.

G. John Garrett, CAS · External Since: Nov 29, 2003 Posts: 19

Douglas Tourtelot wrote:
> Camera-end Neutricon breakout for a Canon 5D MkII.
>
> D.
>
>
> On 11/4/09 1:10 PM, in article
> 113e84b7-1fb6-4d53-abb6-a10b9f26c9ab.TakeThisOut@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, "John E.
> Perkin" <john.e.perkin.TakeThisOut@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Pray tell, what are you trying to make?
>>
>> John Perkin
>> www.Bluecowcables.com
>>
>
For sending to the camera? Here's all you need to know:
Don't. Do. It.

jg

G. John Garrett, CAS · External Since: Nov 29, 2003 Posts: 19

Isn't this thing AGC only? GAH!

jg

Douglas Tourtelot wrote:
> Yeah, that seems to be inputs only. Nice looking tho. This guy wants tails
> in and out for a Remote Audio ENG snake. "Remember boys and girls, the
> Remote Audio snake and the PSC snake are wired differently<g>"
>
> D.
>
>
> On 11/4/09 2:48 PM, in article
> d6825f9e-2a5e-4aa6-b731-bdf894a71861 DeleteThis @l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, "John E.
> Perkin" <john.e.perkin DeleteThis @googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> have you seen this?
>>
>> http://www.slashcam.com/news/single/XLR-audio-for-the-Canon-5D-MKII-7516.html
>>
>> ...but otherwise I must get 5D tails on my website!
>>
>>
>>
>> John Perkin
>> www.BlueCowCables.com
>

G. John Garrett, CAS · External Since: Nov 29, 2003 Posts: 19

Just say DOUBLE SYSTEM. It's the only way.

jg

Sam wrote:
> On Nov 4, 5:48 pm, "John E. Perkin" <john.e.per....TakeThisOut@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>> have you seen this?
>>
>> http://www.slashcam.com/news/single/XLR-audio-for-the-Canon-5D-MKII-7...
>>
>> ...but otherwise I must get 5D tails on my website!
>>
>> John Perkinwww.BlueCowCables.com
>
> I've heard lots of bad stuff about the DXA-5D, mostly people
> experiencing noise issues from the bit that cancels the AGC. A better
> way to go would be to use the Magic Lantern firmware for the 5D, and a
> Juiced Link XLR adapter or a better external mixer.

Douglas Tourtelot · External Since: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 31

It's not for me, guys! The connection that I am looking for (and found,
BTW) was for the audio monitoring out jack.

D.

On 11/6/09 10:38 PM, in article hd34m0$rfe$1@pcls4.std.com, "G. John
Garrett, CAS" <jgarrett RemoveThis @worldDOTstd.com> wrote:

> Douglas Tourtelot wrote:
>> Camera-end Neutricon breakout for a Canon 5D MkII.
>>
>> D.
>>
>>
>> On 11/4/09 1:10 PM, in article
>> 113e84b7-1fb6-4d53-abb6-a10b9f26c9ab RemoveThis @v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, "John E.
>> Perkin" <john.e.perkin RemoveThis @googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Pray tell, what are you trying to make?
>>>
>>> John Perkin
>>> www.Bluecowcables.com
>>>
>>
> For sending to the camera? Here's all you need to know:
> Don't. Do. It.
>
> jg