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Olivier Berger
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: What's wrong with meta-gnome2 ?
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Hi.

http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=meta-gnome2;expand=1 :

Why is package X not in testing yet?
Checking meta-gnome2
trying to update meta-gnome2 from 1:2.24.3~2 to 1:2.24.3~3 (candidate is 11 days old)
Updating meta-gnome2 makes 1 non-depending packages uninstallable on i386: gnome-desktop-environment
binary package gnome-desktop-environment is part of source package meta-gnome2 (explained above)

Uh... it's blocking itself ?

Maybe I'm not getting the point here, or there's something broken...

Hope this helps,
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Aaron M. Ucko
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: What's wrong with meta-gnome2 ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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[Copying the original poster because I'm not certain he's subscribed;
apologies for any resulting duplication.]

Olivier Berger <olivier.berger RemoveThis @it-sudparis.eu> writes:

> Updating meta-gnome2 makes 1 non-depending packages uninstallable on i386: gnome-desktop-environment
> binary package gnome-desktop-environment is part of source package meta-gnome2 (explained above)

I agree that this message is not as clear as it could be. In
practice, I believe the reason for the delay is that
gnome-desktop-environment has recently gained a conflict against
gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs, which is however still a dependency of several
packages. Not all of these are necessarily problematic, but one
certainly is: gnome-dbg (which also comes from meta-gnome2) depends on
gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-dbg (from gst-plugins-base0.10), which
historically depended on gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs. Version 0.10.23-3
has downgraded that to a suggestion, but only showed up as a
low-priority upload on June 17, so as things stand I wouldn't expect
the new meta-gnome2 to hit testing until at least the 27th.

See also http://bugs.debian.org/532469 .

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Olivier Berger
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: What's wrong with meta-gnome2 ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Le lundi 22 juin 2009 à 03:51 +0200, Cyril Brulebois a écrit :
> Aaron M. Ucko <ucko DeleteThis @debian.org> (21/06/2009):
> > [Copying the original poster because I'm not certain he's subscribed;
> > apologies for any resulting duplication.]
>
> [AFAICT, he is, since he replied in some threads previously. Wink]

Sure am I (on d-d DeleteThis @l.d.o).

> > I agree that this message is not as clear as it could be. In
> > practice, I believe the reason for the delay is that
> > gnome-desktop-environment has recently gained a conflict against
> > gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs, which is however still a dependency of several
> > packages. Not all of these are necessarily problematic, but one
> > certainly is: gnome-dbg (which also comes from meta-gnome2) depends on
> > gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-dbg (from gst-plugins-base0.10), which
> > historically depended on gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs. Version 0.10.23-3
> > has downgraded that to a suggestion, but only showed up as a
> > low-priority upload on June 17, so as things stand I wouldn't expect
> > the new meta-gnome2 to hit testing until at least the 27th.
> >
> > See also http://bugs.debian.org/532469 .
>
> Following Joss's mail to -release@, the following answer came:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/06/msg00216.html
>

OK... so, how comes these dependencies aren't reflected in
http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=gnome-desktop-e...ronment ?

Bug ?

Thanks for your replies.

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Philipp Kern
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:10 am    Post subject: Re: What's wrong with meta-gnome2 ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 2009-06-22, Olivier Berger <olivier.berger.RemoveThis@it-sudparis.eu> wrote:
>> Following Joss's mail to -release@, the following answer came:
>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/06/msg00216.html
> OK... so, how comes these dependencies aren't reflected in
> http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=gnome-desktop-e...ronment ?
> Bug ?

Sadly this bit of software is not as accurate as one would like
it to be. Maybe we should put a prominent notice onto that page.
Patches appreciated.

Kind regards,
Philipp Kern


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