Old school beep on 12.2 ?

Dario Niedermann · External Since: Sep 13, 2009 Posts: 1

I modprobe'd pcspkr and raised the "PC Speaker" volume with alsamixer,
but I still can't get the classic "bell" from the console or from xterm.

Anyone know what else is needed?

TIA...

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~> cat /etc/*-{version,release}|head -n1 && uname -moprs|fold -sw72
Slackware 12.2.0
Linux 2.6.27.7-crrm i686 AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MK-36
GNU/Linux

Grant · External Since: Feb 26, 2009 Posts: 22

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:43:45 +0200, Dario Niedermann <7252d9cf RemoveThis @example.invalid> wrote:

>I modprobe'd pcspkr and raised the "PC Speaker" volume with alsamixer,
>but I still can't get the classic "bell" from the console or from xterm.
>
>Anyone know what else is needed?

Wire from pcspeaker to sound card?

Grant.
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Dario Niedermann · External Since: Sep 13, 2009 Posts: 2

Grant <g_r_a_n_t_ DeleteThis @bugsplatter.id.au> wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:43:45 +0200, Dario Niedermann <7252d9cf DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I modprobe'd pcspkr and raised the "PC Speaker" volume with alsamixer,
>>but I still can't get the classic "bell" from the console or from xterm.
>>
>>Anyone know what else is needed?
>
> Wire from pcspeaker to sound card?

It's not about the hardware: it used to work on RHEL.

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~> cat /etc/*-{version,release}|head -n1 && uname -moprs|fold -sw72
Slackware 12.2.0
Linux 2.6.27.7-crrm i686 AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MK-36
GNU/Linux

Dario Niedermann · External Since: Sep 13, 2009 Posts: 2

I wrote:

> I modprobe'd pcspkr and raised the "PC Speaker" volume with alsamixer,
> but I still can't get the classic "bell" from the console or from xterm.

Duh... it turns out that raising a level in alsamixer does not "unmute"
that channel (press 'm' to toggle channel on/off). OK!

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~> cat /etc/*-{version,release}|head -n1 && uname -moprs|fold -sw72
Slackware 12.2.0
Linux 2.6.27.7-crrm i686 AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MK-36
GNU/Linux

Michael Black · External Since: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 19

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Dario Niedermann wrote:

> I modprobe'd pcspkr and raised the "PC Speaker" volume with alsamixer,
> but I still can't get the classic "bell" from the console or from xterm.
>
> Anyone know what else is needed?
>
> TIA...
>
A speaker?

I can't help but wonder if they bother with the speaker in recent
computers, given an expectation that most people will have external
speakers.

Michael

Dan C · External Since: Nov 26, 2006 Posts: 657

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:17:28 -0400, Michael Black wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Dario Niedermann wrote:
>
>> I modprobe'd pcspkr and raised the "PC Speaker" volume with alsamixer,
>> but I still can't get the classic "bell" from the console or from
>> xterm.
>>
>> Anyone know what else is needed?
>>
>> TIA...
>>
> A speaker?
>
> I can't help but wonder if they bother with the speaker in recent
> computers, given an expectation that most people will have external
> speakers.

Many (most?) new computers do not have the little speaker any more.
Quite irritating to me. The console beep is a "must have" for me. There
are ways around it, but it just doesn't sound the same. Bastards.

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notbob · External Since: Jun 08, 2004 Posts: 792

On 2009-09-13, Dan C <youmustbejoking.RemoveThis@lan.invalid> wrote:

> Many (most?) new computers do not have the little speaker any more.
> Quite irritating to me. The console beep is a "must have" for me. There
> are ways around it, but it just doesn't sound the same. Bastards.

I noticed that with the used computer I jes acquired. Not hearing the
POST beep freaks me out.

nb

emmel · External Since: Mar 31, 2009 Posts: 11

Thus Dan C spoke:

> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:17:28 -0400, Michael Black wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Dario Niedermann wrote:
>>
>>> I modprobe'd pcspkr and raised the "PC Speaker" volume with alsamixer,
>>> but I still can't get the classic "bell" from the console or from
>>> xterm.
>>>
>>> Anyone know what else is needed?
>>>
>>> TIA...
>>>
>> A speaker?
>>
>> I can't help but wonder if they bother with the speaker in recent
>> computers, given an expectation that most people will have external
>> speakers.
>
> Many (most?) new computers do not have the little speaker any more.
> Quite irritating to me. The console beep is a "must have" for me. There
> are ways around it, but it just doesn't sound the same. Bastards.

I don't know. I've actually gone so far and switched off the beeping. I
use tab far too often and it gets on other people's nerves. Try doing
that in a library and you'll know what I mean. Usually I know what's
going on without the additional beeping. Which, in fact, has to be
compiled into the kernel. There are very few cases where the speaker
control of the sound card actually does anything.

bc20 · External Since: Sep 12, 2009 Posts: 4

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:00:36 +0000, notbob wrote:

> On 2009-09-13, Dan C <youmustbejoking.TakeThisOut@lan.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Many (most?) new computers do not have the little speaker any more.
>> Quite irritating to me. The console beep is a "must have" for me.
>> There are ways around it, but it just doesn't sound the same.
>> Bastards.
>
> I noticed that with the used computer I jes acquired. Not hearing the
> POST beep freaks me out.

Its been quite a while since I've done a build as I've moved on almost
completely to laptops. Do most of the newest motherboards still have the
PC speaker jumper? Do most cases still have a PC speaker?

I agree. The post-POST "beep" is always re-assuring.

Mikhail Zotov · External Since: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 149

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:43:45 +0200
Dario Niedermann <7252d9cf RemoveThis @example.invalid> wrote:

> I modprobe'd pcspkr and raised the "PC Speaker" volume with alsamixer,
> but I still can't get the classic "bell" from the console or from xterm.
>
> Anyone know what else is needed?

Try

# /sbin/modprobe pcspkr

or delete a hash before this line in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules.

You may also want to use

# set bell-style audible

(man bash)

Regards,
Mikhail