The 'perfection' of Linux Mint 13, Part 3

DFS · External Since: Feb 25, 2011 Posts: 781

The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical red X
to decrement the day/time settings.

http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc

Such kualitee!

MS is doomed.

GreyCloud · External Since: May 06, 2004 Posts: 922

On 6/17/2012 10:26 AM, DFS wrote:
> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical red X
> to decrement the day/time settings.
>
> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
>
>
> Such kualitee!
>

Good grief! Talk about an ambiguity! What nonsense!

Snit · External Since: Jan 09, 2009 Posts: 2956

On 6/17/12 9:26 AM, in article jrl0f5$tob$8@dont-email.me, "DFS"
wrote:

> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical red X
> to decrement the day/time settings.
>
> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
>
>
> Such kualitee!
>
>
> MS is doomed.

That is just *absurd*. It is an example of where having one icon mean two
such different things is clearly *wrong*.

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Mark S Bilk · External Since: Mar 28, 2009 Posts: 25

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:26:11 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
posting as "DFS" wrote:
> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical red X
> to decrement the day/time settings.

> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
> Such kualitee!
> MS is doomed.

"DFS" can't look at simple obvious GUI and tell
whether he is changing time or deleting file.

So sad.

He is a moron, so he blames Linux and calls it "crapware".

Too bad he has crap-brain.

TomB · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 782

On 2012-06-17, the following emerged from the brain of Mark S Bilk:
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:26:11 -0400, Microsoft Corporation, posting
> as "DFS" wrote:
>> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical
>> red X to decrement the day/time settings.
>
>> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
>> Such kualitee!
>> MS is doomed.
>
> "DFS" can't look at simple obvious GUI and tell whether he is
> changing time or deleting file.

We're looking at a genuine bug here though. The icon used in th
day/time settings window is clearly incorrect.

GreyCloud · External Since: May 06, 2004 Posts: 922

On 6/17/2012 1:18 PM, TomB wrote:
> On 2012-06-17, the following emerged from the brain of Mark S Bilk:
>> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:26:11 -0400, Microsoft Corporation, posting
>> as "DFS" wrote:
>>> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical
>>> red X to decrement the day/time settings.
>>
>>> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
>>> Such kualitee!
>>> MS is doomed.
>>
>> "DFS" can't look at simple obvious GUI and tell whether he is
>> changing time or deleting file.
>
> We're looking at a genuine bug here though. The icon used in th
> day/time settings window is clearly incorrect.

It certainly appears to be a bug... but how did it get by the
development team then? That one has me stymied.
I think that the development team needs go back and do a sanity check on
their own work before releasing it like this.

Chris Ahlstrom · External Since: Oct 20, 2010 Posts: 796

After swilling some grog, Mark S Bilk belched this bit o' wisdom:

> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:26:11 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
> posting as "DFS" wrote:
>> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical red X
>> to decrement the day/time settings.
>
>> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
>> Such kualitee!
>> MS is doomed.
>
> "DFS" can't look at simple obvious GUI and tell
> whether he is changing time or deleting file.
>
> So sad.
>
> He is a moron, so he blames Linux and calls it "crapware".
>
> Too bad he has crap-brain.

Indeed, it is two completely different contexts.

Still, I'd use '-' rather than 'x' to denote a decrement function.

You want a a real example of a crap GUI? Try Word 2010. Unbelievable.

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Too little too late.
-- "Hadron",

GreyCloud · External Since: May 06, 2004 Posts: 922

On 6/17/2012 4:50 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Mark S Bilk belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:26:11 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
>> posting as "DFS" wrote:
>>> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical red X
>>> to decrement the day/time settings.
>>
>>> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
>>> Such kualitee!
>>> MS is doomed.
>>
>> "DFS" can't look at simple obvious GUI and tell
>> whether he is changing time or deleting file.
>>
>> So sad.
>>
>> He is a moron, so he blames Linux and calls it "crapware".
>>
>> Too bad he has crap-brain.
>
> Indeed, it is two completely different contexts.
>
> Still, I'd use '-' rather than 'x' to denote a decrement function.
>
> You want a a real example of a crap GUI? Try Word 2010. Unbelievable.
>
Erm... what is wrong with an up arrow for increment, and a down arrow
for decrement?

DFS · External Since: Feb 25, 2011 Posts: 781

On 6/17/2012 1:22 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 6/17/2012 10:26 AM, DFS wrote:
>> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical red X
>> to decrement the day/time settings.
>>
>> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
>>
>>
>> Such kualitee!
>>
>
> Good grief! Talk about an ambiguity! What nonsense!

It really is.

They use a plus sign to increment an item, and a red X to decrement?

I'm sure the crapware defenders who populate cesspool.of.lying.advocates
will dismiss it, but it shows how amateurish Linux still is.

Snit · External Since: Jan 09, 2009 Posts: 2956

On 6/17/12 9:01 PM, in article jrm962$um7$4@dont-email.me, "DFS"
wrote:

> On 6/17/2012 1:22 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 6/17/2012 10:26 AM, DFS wrote:
>>> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical red X
>>> to decrement the day/time settings.
>>>
>>> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
>>>
>>>
>>> Such kualitee!
>>>
>>
>> Good grief! Talk about an ambiguity! What nonsense!
>
>
> It really is.
>
> They use a plus sign to increment an item, and a red X to decrement?
>
> I'm sure the crapware defenders who populate cesspool.of.lying.advocates
> will dismiss it, but it shows how amateurish Linux still is.

For that feature, incrementing and decrementing, their should be a system
wide standard which should be followed - unless there is a good reason *not*
to (such as maybe a game which has its own style or where it could, for some
reason, cause some confusion). Consistency throughout the system is
important... when you mix KDE and Gnome and more... and where programs
follow even those standard only poorly you end up with a situation where
productivity *will* be affected, more errors will be made, and efficiency
will be sacrificed.

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DFS · External Since: Feb 25, 2011 Posts: 781

On 6/17/2012 4:17 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 6/17/2012 1:18 PM, TomB wrote:
>> On 2012-06-17, the following emerged from the brain of Mark S Bilk:
>>> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:26:11 -0400, Microsoft Corporation, posting
>>> as "DFS" wrote:
>>>> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical
>>>> red X to decrement the day/time settings.
>>>
>>>> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
>>>> Such kualitee!
>>>> MS is doomed.
>>>
>>> "DFS" can't look at simple obvious GUI and tell whether he is
>>> changing time or deleting file.
>>
>> We're looking at a genuine bug here though. The icon used in th
>> day/time settings window is clearly incorrect.
>
> It certainly appears to be a bug... but how did it get by the
> development team then? That one has me stymied.
> I think that the development team needs go back and do a sanity check on
> their own work before releasing it like this.

They claim to have about 30 maintainers and testers.

http://community.linuxmint.com/iso/team

Nobody checked the date/time screen after the "developer" chose the red X?

The dedication and attention to detail is amazing...

Snit · External Since: Jan 09, 2009 Posts: 2956

On 6/17/12 9:05 PM, in article jrm9e5$1u5$1@dont-email.me, "DFS"
wrote:

> On 6/17/2012 4:17 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 6/17/2012 1:18 PM, TomB wrote:
>>> On 2012-06-17, the following emerged from the brain of Mark S Bilk:
>>>> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:26:11 -0400, Microsoft Corporation, posting
>>>> as "DFS" wrote:
>>>>> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical
>>>>> red X to decrement the day/time settings.
>>>>
>>>>> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
>>>>> Such kualitee!
>>>>> MS is doomed.
>>>>
>>>> "DFS" can't look at simple obvious GUI and tell whether he is
>>>> changing time or deleting file.
>>>
>>> We're looking at a genuine bug here though. The icon used in th
>>> day/time settings window is clearly incorrect.
>>
>> It certainly appears to be a bug... but how did it get by the
>> development team then? That one has me stymied.
>> I think that the development team needs go back and do a sanity check on
>> their own work before releasing it like this.
>
>
> They claim to have about 30 maintainers and testers.
>
> http://community.linuxmint.com/iso/team
>
> Nobody checked the date/time screen after the "developer" chose the red X?
>
> The dedication and attention to detail is amazing...
>
>
Only 30 people maintaining and testing.

That is simply not enough for a modern OS.

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cc being proved wrong about his stats BS: <http://goo.gl/1aYrP>
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Hadron · External Since: Nov 28, 2009 Posts: 1017

DFS writes:

> On 6/17/2012 1:22 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 6/17/2012 10:26 AM, DFS wrote:
>>> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical red X
>>> to decrement the day/time settings.
>>>
>>> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
>>>
>>>
>>> Such kualitee!
>>>
>>
>> Good grief! Talk about an ambiguity! What nonsense!
>
> It really is.
>
> They use a plus sign to increment an item, and a red X to decrement?
>
> I'm sure the crapware defenders who populate cesspool.of.lying.advocates will
> dismiss it, but it shows how amateurish Linux still is.
>
>
>
>
>

According to Creepy and Co thats fine since people are not so stupid as
you think and can "learn" that the delete icon actually means
"decrement" in this case.

UI concistency ++

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GreyCloud · External Since: May 06, 2004 Posts: 922

On 6/17/2012 10:01 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 6/17/2012 1:22 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 6/17/2012 10:26 AM, DFS wrote:
>>> The crapware uses a red X icon to delete files, and an identical red X
>>> to decrement the day/time settings.
>>>
>>> http://bayimg.com/aAPoIaaDc
>>>
>>>
>>> Such kualitee!
>>>
>>
>> Good grief! Talk about an ambiguity! What nonsense!
>
>
> It really is.
>
> They use a plus sign to increment an item, and a red X to decrement?
>
> I'm sure the crapware defenders who populate cesspool.of.lying.advocates
> will dismiss it, but it shows how amateurish Linux still is.
>
>
>
>
I thought it was the cult.of.lying.advocates... Very Happy