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Osamu Hone
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable
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Iceweasel 3.5 arrived on unstable a week ago and it is unstable.
I wonder if it is only me.

What is your experience?

I'm particularly interested to know if there is anyone
who does not have much problem with iceweasel 3.5 + amd64.

Thanks.
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John Hasler
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Osamu Hone writes:
> I'm particularly interested to know if there is anyone who does not
> have much problem with iceweasel 3.5 + amd64.

Works fine here except for the duplicate SSL cert serial number bug,
which doesn't affect most users.
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Manoj Srivastava
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, Oct 17 2009, Osamu Hone wrote:

> Iceweasel 3.5 arrived on unstable a week ago and it is unstable.
> I wonder if it is only me.
>
> What is your experience?

Works fine here.

> I'm particularly interested to know if there is anyone
> who does not have much problem with iceweasel 3.5 + amd64.

Well, I am not sure it really helps, but I fit into that
category.

manoj
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John Hasler
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Osamu Hone writes:
> Are you on amd64 ?

Yes.
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Robert Harris
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Osamu Hone wrote:
> Iceweasel 3.5 arrived on unstable a week ago and it is unstable.
> I wonder if it is only me.
>
> What is your experience?
>
> I'm particularly interested to know if there is anyone
> who does not have much problem with iceweasel 3.5 + amd64.
>
> Thanks.

Are you sure that the instability is in iceweasel and not in plugins,
notably acroread?

Robert
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Osamu Hone
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Robert Harris wrote:

> Are you sure that the instability is in iceweasel

No, I am not sure.

> and not in plugins, notably acroread?

I don't use acroread.
But I use adobe flash plugin.
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Osamu Hone
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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John Hasler wrote:

>> I'm particularly interested to know if there is anyone who does not
>> have much problem with iceweasel 3.5 + amd64.
>
> Works fine here except for the duplicate SSL cert serial number bug,
> which doesn't affect most users.

Are you on amd64 ?
Thank you.
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Osamu Hone
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:

>> I'm particularly interested to know if there is anyone
>> who does not have much problem with iceweasel 3.5 + amd64.
>
> Well, I am not sure it really helps, but I fit into that
> category.

Ah. That helps. Thank you.

I'll report back.
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Joe
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 17 2009, Osamu Hone wrote:
>
>> Iceweasel 3.5 arrived on unstable a week ago and it is unstable.
>> I wonder if it is only me.
>>
>> What is your experience?
>
> Works fine here.
>
>> I'm particularly interested to know if there is anyone
>> who does not have much problem with iceweasel 3.5 + amd64.
>
> Well, I am not sure it really helps, but I fit into that
> category.
>

Me too. IW 3.5.3 with DownloadHelper, McAfee SiteAdvisor and NoScript.

Plug-ins:
Java 1.6.0-16
DivX Web Player
Helix DNA
QuickTime 7.2.0
Shockwave 10.0 r32
Skype Buttons for Kopete
VLC multimedia
Windows Media 10

No problems that I'm aware of, but I'm not really a hardened web warrior.

I added the extensions, but the plug-ins seem to have crawled aboard of
their own accord. I don't use either Skype or Kopete. I see I haven't
picked up an Acroread, which someone mentioned as a possible suspect,
PDFs open with the main system reader.
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Rui Maciel
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Osamu Hone wrote:

> I'm particularly interested to know if there is anyone
> who does not have much problem with iceweasel 3.5 + amd64.

I currently use shiretoko 3.5 (renamed firefox) as my main browser and I don't have much to complain about.
The only problem that I've noticed is that sometimes when I quit firefox the process still lingers around,
which makes it impossible to run a new instance of firefox before killing the lingering process. Yet, I also
believe that this particular problem is cause not by firefox but instead by Adobe's flash plugin, which
appears to be a real mess.

Other than that it's smooth sailing. Quite a pleasure to work with.


Rui Maciel
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Osamu Hone
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:10 am    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks everyone for responses.

I'm not making much progress. The only thing I'm certain is that the
flash plugin has something to do with my problem. Going to a web site
that uses flash and moving around leads to crash sooner or later. e.g.

1. Go to :
http://www.boingboing.net/

2. Locate an article with embedded youtube video. e.g.
Cardboard animation by Sjors Vervoort [2009-10-17]

3. Go to that article page:
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/17/cardboard-animation.html

4. Click back button.
5. Click forward button.
6. Go back to step #4.


Before crashing iceweasel prints lots of warnings. There are two
kinds:

1.XID collision

(firefox-bin:4802): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
(firefox-bin:4802): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
...

2. GObject warning

(firefox-bin:5293): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid unclassed pointer
in cast to `GtkObject'
(firefox-bin:5293): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance with invalid
(NULL) class pointer
(firefox-bin:5293): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
g_signal_handler_disconnect: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE
(instance)' failed

midori (a webkit based browser) also prints out the same warnings but
it does not crash until just before the quit time. (midori prints out
"seg faults" on exit.)

The plugin I use is 64bit version libflash.so downloaded from
adobe.com.

;;;

Bug reports that seems related to my problem

XID collision issue:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581526

Looks like the same crash:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=550873
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terryc
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:51:30 +0900, Osamu Hone wrote:


> I'm particularly interested to know if there is anyone who does not have
> much problem with iceweasel 3.5 + amd64.

FWIW, I have not of those conditions, but recently on a uptodate Lenny
(stable) machine, I had to disable the shockware plugin as it would
completely and instantly shut down the computer on a particulate site
(http://www.smh.com.au).
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Osamu Hone
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I think I found a culprit (other than flash plugin). It's a
japanese input method that I use -- uim-anthy. This is bad.

I made a mistake in my previous post:

> The plugin I use is 64bit version libflash.so downloaded from
> adobe.com.

libflash.so --> libflashplayer.so
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Osamu Hone
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is unstable [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Found similar report:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8115232

Conclusion:

iceweasel (firefox) 3.5 + UIM + flash = Crash
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Osamu Hone
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: iceweasel 3.5 is stable now [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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For the record,

I replaced UIM with ibus as suggested by the ubuntu forum
<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8115232>.

And iceweasel 3.5 runs very stably for me now *.

* except #546599
<http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=546599>
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