good KDE distro

MarcB · External Since: Sep 08, 2009 Posts: 2

At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation.
So I wonder what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the
differences with Kubuntu ?

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philo · External Since: Feb 14, 2005 Posts: 218

MarcB wrote:
> At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
> Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation.
> So I wonder what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the
> differences with Kubuntu ?
>

Does it work for you?

If so then keep it and don't worry so much about what you read

Bit Twister · External Since: Dec 19, 2004 Posts: 1894

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:51:59 +0200, MarcB wrote:
> At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
> Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation.

It is a matter of taste. Gnome users think KDE is a bad implementation.
At the time of Kubuntu 9.04 I thought felt it was the best release of
KDE.

> So I wonder what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the
> differences with Kubuntu ?

Good is what works best for you. Latest release of KDE is around 4.3.1.
Guessing you are running something like 4.2.2

Go to http://distrowatch.com/, check each distribution and see which
one has 4.3.1 ready for Official Release with a 2.6.31 kernel.

Dan C · External Since: Nov 26, 2006 Posts: 657

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:20:38 +0000, Bit Twister wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:51:59 +0200, MarcB wrote:
>> At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
>> Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation.
>
> It is a matter of taste. Gnome users think KDE is a bad implementation.
> At the time of Kubuntu 9.04 I thought felt it was the best release of
> KDE.
>
>> So I wonder what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the
>> differences with Kubuntu ?
>
> Good is what works best for you. Latest release of KDE is around 4.3.1.
> Guessing you are running something like 4.2.2
>
> Go to http://distrowatch.com/, check each distribution and see which one
> has 4.3.1 ready for Official Release with a 2.6.31 kernel.

None of them will, since as of this writing, the latest kernel release is
2.6.30.5.

Silly.

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Dr. Deb · External Since: Aug 06, 2004 Posts: 171

MarcB wrote:

> At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
> Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation.
> So I wonder what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the
> differences with Kubuntu ?
>

For me its PCLinuxOS, which runs KDE 3.5 instead of 4.X. The reason for my
preference is simple, it works on my test machine (a Gateway GT 5220). Few
pass the test.

Then there is the much better tool kit PCLinuxOS gets from its Mandriva
source.

Finally, the killer. If your wireless card is not supported by the default
drivers, getting NDIS up and running is any Ubuntu distro is less than
straigh forward. Or it was the last time I looked.

Deb

ray · External Since: Nov 13, 2004 Posts: 3387

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:51:59 +0200, MarcB wrote:

> At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
> Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation. So I wonder
> what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the differences with
> Kubuntu ?

My own personal preference is to use gnome, but since you asked - the
last time I used kde much was a year or two ago on Ubuntu - no, not
kubuntu. It was my experience that things worked more nicely with a
Ubuntu install followed by adding the kde desktop - I've read similar
advice from other folks - that would be my recommendation.

Dan C · External Since: Nov 26, 2006 Posts: 657

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:07:32 -0500, Dr. Deb wrote:

> MarcB wrote:
>
>> At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
>> Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation. So I wonder
>> what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the differences with
>> Kubuntu ?
>>
>>
>
> For me its PCLinuxOS, which runs KDE 3.5 instead of 4.X. The reason for
> my preference is simple, it works on my test machine (a Gateway GT
> 5220). Few pass the test.
>
> Then there is the much better tool kit PCLinuxOS gets from its Mandriva
> source.
>
> Finally, the killer. If your wireless card is not supported by the
> default drivers, getting NDIS up and running is any Ubuntu distro is
> less than straigh forward. Or it was the last time I looked.
>
> Deb

n00b.

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Aragorn · External Since: Feb 22, 2009 Posts: 13

On Wednesday 09 September 2009 02:20, someone identifying as *Dan C*
wrote in /alt.os.linux:/

> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:20:38 +0000, Bit Twister wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:51:59 +0200, MarcB wrote:
>>> At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
>>> Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation.
>>
>> It is a matter of taste. Gnome users think KDE is a bad
>> implementation. At the time of Kubuntu 9.04 I thought felt it was the
>> best release of KDE.
>>
>>> So I wonder what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the
>>> differences with Kubuntu ?
>>
>> Good is what works best for you. Latest release of KDE is around
>> 4.3.1. Guessing you are running something like 4.2.2
>>
>> Go to http://distrowatch.com/, check each distribution and see which
>> one has 4.3.1 ready for Official Release with a 2.6.31 kernel.
>
> None of them will, since as of this writing, the latest kernel release
> is 2.6.30.5.

2.6.30.6 as of this morning. :p

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Jim · External Since: Jan 19, 2005 Posts: 138

On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:26:54 +0000, Dan C wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:07:32 -0500, Dr. Deb wrote:
>
>> MarcB wrote:
>>
>>> At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
>>> Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation. So I wonder
>>> what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the differences
>>> with Kubuntu ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> For me its PCLinuxOS, which runs KDE 3.5 instead of 4.X. The reason
>> for my preference is simple, it works on my test machine (a Gateway GT
>> 5220). Few pass the test.
>>
>> Then there is the much better tool kit PCLinuxOS gets from its Mandriva
>> source.
>>
>> Finally, the killer. If your wireless card is not supported by the
>> default drivers, getting NDIS up and running is any Ubuntu distro is
>> less than straigh forward. Or it was the last time I looked.
>>
>> Deb
>
> n00b.

Perhaps, but we all were at sometime ourselves

For the OP, the biggest differences are in how easy they are to setup and
how they are organized. In addition hardware recognition can become a
factor. As an example my desktop runs PCLinuxOS just fine but Mepis 8.0
gives random restarts. Yet on my laptop Mepis gives far better wireless
connectivity than does PCLinuxOS.

Since we all have slightly different hardware perhaps the best thing is
to determine for yourself which is best. Burn a few Live-CD's for
initial comparison purposes. Then as long as your root and home are
separate partitions you can fully install while preserving the integrity
of the data files.

TJ · External Since: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 6

Dan C wrote:
>
> n00b.
>
>
Better that than a burned up old codger who is unwilling to look beyond
his nose.

TJ
--

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government and the sure and gradual deterioration of the public morals.
- Mark Twain's Autobiography

Dan C · External Since: Nov 26, 2006 Posts: 657

On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:42:25 -0400, TJ wrote:

> Dan C wrote:
>>
>> n00b.
>>
>>
> Better that than a burned up old codger who is unwilling to look beyond
> his nose.

Perhaps. Don't be so hard on yourself.

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Dan C · External Since: Nov 26, 2006 Posts: 657

On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:46:28 +0000, Jim wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:26:54 +0000, Dan C wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:07:32 -0500, Dr. Deb wrote:
>>
>>> MarcB wrote:
>>>
>>>> At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
>>>> Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation. So I
>>>> wonder what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the
>>>> differences with Kubuntu ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> For me its PCLinuxOS, which runs KDE 3.5 instead of 4.X. The reason
>>> for my preference is simple, it works on my test machine (a Gateway GT
>>> 5220). Few pass the test.
>>>
>>> Then there is the much better tool kit PCLinuxOS gets from its
>>> Mandriva source.
>>>
>>> Finally, the killer. If your wireless card is not supported by the
>>> default drivers, getting NDIS up and running is any Ubuntu distro is
>>> less than straigh forward. Or it was the last time I looked.
>>>
>>> Deb
>>
>> n00b.
>
> Perhaps, but we all were at sometime ourselves

True (sort of), but the difference is that some people (like the OP) are
destined to never get beyond that stage. They just don't try, or simply
can't understand what's going on.

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schrodinger's cat · External Since: Jul 18, 2005 Posts: 7

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Ivan Marsh · External Since: Jun 09, 2009 Posts: 4

MarcB wrote:

> At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
> Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation.
> So I wonder what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the
> differences with Kubuntu ?

I'm not sure what that means. KDE is KDE. They're, no doubt, running their
own theme for look & feel but the actual software most likely hasn't been
altered from the original source.

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wisdomkiller & pain · External Since: Sep 09, 2009 Posts: 1

MarcB wrote:

> At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
> Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation.
> So I wonder what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the
> differences with Kubuntu ?
>
Tried Ubuntu-9.10 with kde-4.3 and Mandriva Cooker (KDE4.3 as well).
Both distributions have almost the same look at the kde surface, some
differences in toolsets, but both basically work just fine.
Stay with your preferred one, or follow the bleeding edge with a 2nd
install Smile

MarcB · External Since: Sep 08, 2009 Posts: 2

MarcB wrote:

> At this moment I use Kubuntu 9.04
> Sometimes I read that Kubuntu is a bad KDE implementation.
> So I wonder what is considered a good KDE distro, and what are the
> differences with Kubuntu ?
>

In the mean time I did some additional googling.
If I understand correctly, it boils down to
- how many packages in the repo's
- aim for stability (conservative packaging)
- bleeding edge

At this moment Kubuntu works well for me except for regular crashes of
Kontact, the KDE pim application.

I am tempted by Arch which seems to be very bleeding edge and
also has a continuous update policy as soon as there is something new,
instead of release updates on fixed times.

Any thoughts on Arch concerning hardware detection compared to Kubuntu ?

Rgds

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MarcB