[gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf8..

Grant · External Since: Sep 01, 2004 Posts: 689

depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a
bit scared to do that. Does anyone know what might be going on there?

x11-base/xorg-server
selected: 1.6.3.901-r2
protected: none
omitted: none

x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
selected: 2.7.1
protected: none
omitted: none

- Grant

Mark Knecht · External Since: Sep 07, 2004 Posts: 473

What's listed in /var/lib/portage/world?

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Grant <emailgrant.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a
> bit scared to do that. Â Does anyone know what might be going on there?
>
> Â x11-base/xorg-server
> Â Â selected: 1.6.3.901-r2
> Â protected: none
> Â Â omitted: none
>
> Â x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
> Â Â selected: 2.7.1
> Â protected: none
> Â Â omitted: none
>
> - Grant
>
>

Grant · External Since: Sep 01, 2004 Posts: 689

>> depclean wants to remove xorg-server and xf86-video-intel and I'm a
>> bit scared to do that. Does anyone know what might be going on there?
>>
>> x11-base/xorg-server
>> selected: 1.6.3.901-r2
>> protected: none
>> omitted: none
>>
>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
>> selected: 2.7.1
>> protected: none
>> omitted: none
>
> Looks like you don't have anything installed which needs them. If you really
> need xorg-server (means: if this is a desktop machine), you should add the
> package to your world file.
>
> HTH...
>
> Dirk

Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server? I have many of them
in /var/lib/portage/world. For example, abiword, gnucash, and
gnumeric.

- Grant

Grant · External Since: Sep 01, 2004 Posts: 689

>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>
> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be running on
> another machine.
>
> Bye...
>
> Dirk

Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.

- Grant

Alan McKinnon · External Since: Jun 26, 2009 Posts: 68

On Tuesday 27 October 2009 21:20:17 Grant wrote:
> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
> >>
> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be
> >> running on another machine.
> >>
> >> Bye...
> >>
> >> Dirk
> >
> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
> >
> > - Grant
>
> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
> does it provide?

xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in
everything required to provide a full X server

--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Grant · External Since: Sep 01, 2004 Posts: 689

>>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>>
>> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be running on
>> another machine.
>>
>> Bye...
>>
>> Dirk
>
> Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
>
> - Grant

Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
does it provide?

- Grant

Mark Knecht · External Since: Sep 07, 2004 Posts: 473

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Grant <emailgrant RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>>>
>>> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be running on
>>> another machine.
>>>
>>> Bye...
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â Dirk
>>
>> Ah, bingo, thank you. Â I'll add xorg-server to world.
>>
>> - Grant
>
> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? Â What
> does it provide?
>
> - Grant
>
>

Depends. I use xorg-server on most of mine but if you want/need a mire
full X setup, more fonts, etc., then use xorg-x11.

You can always start with xorg-server and switch over later as the
server is a subset of the latter.

HTH,
Mark

Grant · External Since: Sep 01, 2004 Posts: 689

>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>> >>
>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be
>> >> running on another machine.
>> >>
>> >> Bye...
>> >>
>> >> Dirk
>> >
>> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
>> >
>> > - Grant
>>
>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
>> does it provide?
>
> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in
> everything required to provide a full X server
>
> --
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to
emerge for xorg-x11:

[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 42 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 74 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 97 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 88 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 101 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 86 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 82 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 USE="-debug" 140 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 116 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 USE="-debug" 127 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 73 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 95 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 91 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 USE="-debug" 127 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 USE="-debug" 79 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 USE="-debug" 97 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 76 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 110 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 USE="-debug" 65 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 213 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 20 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 70 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 284 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 204 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 827 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 308 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 667 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 38 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 USE="X" 376 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 USE="X" 181 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 48 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 209 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 USE="X" 330 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 45 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 552 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 2,205 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 42 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 USE="X" 1,457 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 563 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 65 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 102 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 52 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 133 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 769 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 499 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 193 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 201 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 56 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 77 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 344 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0
USE="X -nls" 185 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 41 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 40 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 655 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0
USE="X -nls" 150 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 0 kB

Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. Does
anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts?

- Grant

Paul Hartman · External Since: Jun 26, 2009 Posts: 41

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Grant <emailgrant.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>>> >>
>>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be
>>> >> running on another machine.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bye...
>>> >>
>>> >> Dirk
>>> >
>>> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
>>> >
>>> > - Grant
>>>
>>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
>>> does it provide?
>>
>> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in
>> everything required to provide a full X server
>>
>> --
>> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
> I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to
> emerge for xorg-x11:
>
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 42 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 97 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 88 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 101 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 86 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 82 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 USE="-debug" 140 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 116 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 USE="-debug" 127 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 73 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 95 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 91 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 USE="-debug" 127 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 USE="-debug" 97 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 76 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 110 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 USE="-debug" 65 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 213 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 20 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 70 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 284 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 204 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 827 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 308 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 667 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 38 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 USE="X" 376 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 USE="X" 181 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 48 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 209 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 USE="X" 330 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 45 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 552 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 2,205 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 42 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 USE="X" 1,457 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 563 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 65 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 102 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 52 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 133 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 769 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 499 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 193 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 201 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 56 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 77 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 344 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0
> USE="X -nls" 185 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 41 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 40 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 655 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0
> USE="X -nls" 150 kB
> [ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 0 kB
>
> Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. Does
> anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts?

I think if you don't use any of those other programs then you don't
need them, and if you install anything that needs them it'll pull them
in automatically. Smile

They're mostly low-level utilities. If your
system is working as-is then I don't think you'll be missing out on
anything by leaving it alone (after putting xorg-server into your
world file of course).

Mark Knecht · External Since: Sep 07, 2004 Posts: 473

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Grant <emailgrant.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>>> >>
>>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be
>>> >> running on another machine.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bye...
>>> >>
>>> >> Â Â Â Â Dirk
>>> >
>>> > Ah, bingo, thank you. Â I'll add xorg-server to world.
>>> >
>>> > - Grant
>>>
>>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? Â What
>>> does it provide?
>>
>> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in
>> everything required to provide a full X server
>>
>> --
>> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
> I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to
> emerge for xorg-x11:
>
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 Â USE="-debug" 42 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 Â USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 Â USE="-debug" 97 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 Â 88 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 Â USE="-debug" 101 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 Â USE="-debug" 86 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 Â USE="-debug" 82 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 Â USE="-debug" 106 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 Â USE="-debug" 140 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 Â USE="-debug" 85 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 Â USE="-debug" 116 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 Â USE="-debug" 127 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 Â USE="-debug" 73 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 Â USE="-debug" 85 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 Â USE="-debug" 95 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 Â USE="-debug" 87 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 Â USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 Â USE="-debug" 91 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 Â USE="-debug" 127 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 Â USE="-debug" 87 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 Â USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 Â USE="-debug" 97 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 Â USE="-debug" 76 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 Â USE="-debug" 106 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 Â USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 Â USE="-debug" 74 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 Â USE="-debug" 110 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 Â USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 Â USE="-debug" 65 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 Â USE="-debug" 213 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 Â 20 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 Â USE="X" 70 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1 Â USE="X -nls" 284 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 Â USE="X" 204 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 827 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 308 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 667 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 38 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 Â USE="X" 376 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 Â USE="X" 181 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 48 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 Â USE="X -nls" 209 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 Â USE="X" 330 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 Â USE="X -nls" 45 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 552 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 Â 2,205 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 42 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 Â USE="X" 1,457 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 Â USE="X" 563 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 65 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 102 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 52 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 133 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 769 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 499 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 193 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 201 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 56 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 77 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 Â USE="X" 344 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0
> USE="X -nls" 185 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 41 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 40 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 Â USE="X -nls" 655 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 Â USE="-debug" 79 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0
> USE="X -nls" 150 kB
> [ebuild Â N Â Â ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 Â 0 kB
>
> Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. Â Does
> anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts?
>
> - Grant
>
>

Just read the names of the apps. They are mostly pretty simple. If one
app looks interesting or possibly useful you can emerge it directly,
play with it and throw it away if you don't want to keep it around. I
don't personally need the fonts although they aren't generally much
trouble in terms of updates as they don't change.

Anyway, as I said, I only use the full package on one machine and
hardly notice the difference.

- Mark

Grant · External Since: Sep 01, 2004 Posts: 689

>>>> >>> Don't most (all?) X apps depend on xorg-server?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Nope. No X app depends on the server, because the server could be
>>>> >> running on another machine.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Bye...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dirk
>>>> >
>>>> > Ah, bingo, thank you. I'll add xorg-server to world.
>>>> >
>>>> > - Grant
>>>>
>>>> Actually, could xorg-x11 be a better choice for the world file? What
>>>> does it provide?
>>>
>>> xorg-x11 is indeed the better choice. It is a meta- package that pulls in
>>> everything required to provide a full X server
>>>
>>> --
>>> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>>
>> I already have xorg-server installed, and here are the packages to
>> emerge for xorg-x11:
>>
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 42 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bdftopcf-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 74 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-util-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 97 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcursorgen-1.0.2 88 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xmodmap-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 101 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/smproxy-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 86 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwud-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 82 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xinput-1.4.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/x11perf-1.5 USE="-debug" 140 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xgamma-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xpr-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 116 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.2 USE="-debug" 127 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetmode-1.0.0 USE="-debug" 73 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xvinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 85 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xcmsdb-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 95 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xsetroot-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xhost-1.0.2 USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xev-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 91 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.3-r1 USE="-debug" 127 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 87 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xbacklight-1.1 USE="-debug" 79 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/setxkbmap-1.1.0 USE="-debug" 97 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkill-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 76 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbevd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 106 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsclients-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xlsatoms-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 74 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xwd-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 110 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.1-r1 USE="-debug" 65 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 213 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 20 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 70 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 284 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.1 USE="X" 204 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 827 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 308 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 667 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 38 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 USE="X" 376 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0-r1 USE="X" 181 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 48 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 209 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.0 USE="X" 330 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.1 USE="X -nls" 45 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 552 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-themes/xcursor-themes-1.0.1 2,205 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,813 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 42 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.0 USE="X" 1,457 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 563 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 65 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 102 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 52 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 133 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 769 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 1,040 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 499 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 193 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 201 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 56 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 77 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0 USE="X" 344 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.0
>> USE="X -nls" 185 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 41 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 40 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.0 USE="X -nls" 655 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 79 kB
>> [ebuild N ] media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.0
>> USE="X -nls" 150 kB
>> [ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1 0 kB
>>
>> Seems like a lot of stuff considering X is working fine as-is. Does
>> anyone know what the functional difference is besides more fonts?
>>
>> - Grant
>>
>>
>
> Just read the names of the apps. They are mostly pretty simple. If one
> app looks interesting or possibly useful you can emerge it directly,
> play with it and throw it away if you don't want to keep it around. I
> don't personally need the fonts although they aren't generally much
> trouble in terms of updates as they don't change.
>
> Anyway, as I said, I only use the full package on one machine and
> hardly notice the difference.
>
> - Mark

Sounds good, thanks everyone.

- Grant