Why can't I download ftp sites??

Beartooth · External Since: Oct 21, 2006 Posts: 11

For years I've stuck to doing my downloads with Opera. It used to be
trouble-free. Then I began hitting sites that wanted me to use ftp instead
of http -- and Opera has always choked on those.

Today, wanting to do a fresh download of the ISOs for Fedora Core 6, I got
to a list of mirrors -- and found half the ones that claimed to offer http
actually trying to put me into ftp downloads.

Am I doing something wrong, or is this some engineered-in limitation of
Opera??

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Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen · External Since: Apr 02, 2004 Posts: 238

Beartooth <Beartooth.RemoveThis@swva.net> writes:

> For years I've stuck to doing my downloads with Opera. It used to be
> trouble-free. Then I began hitting sites that wanted me to use ftp instead
> of http -- and Opera has always choked on those.
>
> Today, wanting to do a fresh download of the ISOs for Fedora Core 6, I got
> to a list of mirrors -- and found half the ones that claimed to offer http
> actually trying to put me into ftp downloads.
>
> Am I doing something wrong, or is this some engineered-in limitation of
> Opera??
>

I don't think you're doing anything wrong, and opera is supposed to
handle ftp. Please file a bug report listing a couple of the ftp
sites that don't work (https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/).

eirik

Jonathan A. · External Since: May 06, 2005 Posts: 65

On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:38:25 +0000 (UTC), Beartooth
<Beartooth.RemoveThis@swva.net> appears to have said:

> For years I've stuck to doing my downloads with Opera. It used to be
> trouble-free. Then I began hitting sites that wanted me to use ftp instead
> of http -- and Opera has always choked on those.

I'm a bit late responding, but I wanted to ask... are you sure it's
opera? If you try with firefox, or command line ftp clients, do they
work OK?

I remember having trouble with ftp some years back with the ip_conntrack
feature of netfilter. When I compiled it statically into the kernel, ftp
worked fine, but if I built it as a loadable module, ftp would always
fail... even though the ip_conntrack module was loaded.

I suppose if you're running a recent kernel, that's probably long been
sorted out, but it's a thought. <shrug>

Jonathan

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Beartooth · External Since: Oct 21, 2006 Posts: 11

On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:38:42 +0100, Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen wrote:
[...]
> I don't think you're doing anything wrong, and opera is supposed to
> handle ftp. Please file a bug report listing a couple of the ftp sites
> that don't work (https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/).
>
> eirik

My apologies for taking so long to get back to this; the reasons would be
tiresome.

I have yet ever to get *any* ftp site to work. Opera insists on inserting
an "http://" in front of the address, and then complains.

I'm not competent to file a bug report. But, fwiw, lately it's not the
only browser with the problem. Galeon 2.0.3, at least is also failing.
Does that mean the problem is really in FC6, or in Privoxy??

I finally went and dug gFTP out of the Main Menu in Fedora 6; I may just
put its launcher right on my panel. I'm far from skilled in using it yet,
but it does get the files (mostly rpms) I need.
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Rijk van Geijtenbeek · External Since: Mar 04, 2007 Posts: 13

Op Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:21:37 +0100 schreef Beartooth <Beartooth RemoveThis @swva.net>:

> On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:38:42 +0100, Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen wrote:
> [...]
>> I don't think you're doing anything wrong, and opera is supposed to
>> handle ftp. Please file a bug report listing a couple of the ftp sites
>> that don't work (https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/).
>>
>> eirik
>
> My apologies for taking so long to get back to this; the reasons would be
> tiresome.
>
> I have yet ever to get *any* ftp site to work. Opera insists on inserting
> an "http://" in front of the address, and then complains.

That's what Opera does if you don't insert a protocol yourself. As it is a
browser foremost, Opera assumes you want to browser websites, hence http.

For getting to an ftp site, add the ftp protocol, like this:

ftp://ftp.opera.com

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Rijk
Opera Software, QA etc...

Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen · External Since: Apr 02, 2004 Posts: 238

Beartooth <Beartooth.RemoveThis@swva.net> writes:

> I have yet ever to get *any* ftp site to work. Opera insists on inserting
> an "http://" in front of the address, and then complains.

As Rijk says, you're probably leaving out the "ftp://" part of the
url.

>
> I'm not competent to file a bug report.

Oh yes, you are Smile

And even if you're not, the only way to learn is to try it. The
"wizard" tries to describe what you should do, and if you get it
wrong, we will most likely send you a mail asking for the details you
forgot.

The only thing that is needed in a good bug report is a description
that enables us to reproduce your problem. (Of course, some bugs are
not easily reproducible, and then we'll have to settle for less good
bug reports.)

>
> I finally went and dug gFTP out of the Main Menu in Fedora 6; I may just
> put its launcher right on my panel. I'm far from skilled in using it yet,
> but it does get the files (mostly rpms) I need.

It may be worth keeping a "real" ftp program around. Web browsers
have a history of less than perfect ftp handling.

eirik