No answer for insulting and accusatory emails.

Charles Plessy · External Since: Mar 03, 2009 Posts: 190

Dear all,

just for the record, I will not answer to insulting or accusatory emails. Some
of them may contain interesting questions or comments, though. Please feel free
to repeat them in a separate message if you also found them interesting.

Cheers,

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Alexander Reichle-Schmehl · External Since: Mar 24, 2010 Posts: 22

Hi Charles,

Charles Plessy schrieb:
> just for the record, I will not answer to insulting or accusatory emails. Some
> of them may contain interesting questions or comments, though. Please feel free
> to repeat them in a separate message if you also found them interesting.

That opens up for an interesting question: What ways to settle a
conflict with fellow Debian Developers seem proper to you? Do we have
to expect further unspecified ignores from your side should you be elected?

Best regards,
Alexander

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Gerfried Fuchs · External Since: Jun 15, 2007 Posts: 60

Hi!

* Charles Plessy [2010-03-24 19:09:32 +0900]:
> just for the record, I will not answer to insulting or accusatory
> emails. Some of them may contain interesting questions or comments,
> though. Please feel free to repeat them in a separate message if you
> also found them interesting.

Thanks for the headsup - can I take it that this is the reason why
there is no response from you to my question about "Disappearing DPLs",
that you consider it insulting or accusatory?

Have fun.
Rhonda

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Charles Plessy · External Since: Mar 03, 2009 Posts: 190

Le Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 08:30:03AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs a écrit :
> Hi!
>
> I have a question to the candidates: History has shown that DPLs more
> or less disappear not too long after their period or at least reduce
> their visible efforts immensly. I wonder where you see the reasons for
> this trend, what your impression is about it and wether you try to
> follow that trend or what you will try to do to not have this happen to
> you, too.

Hi Gerfried,

sorry for taking long to answer. This obviously demonstrates that we are not
always as available as we wished. If after being elected my free time is
strongly and permanently reduced, I will shorten my mandate. But I promise I
will look left and right before crossing a street full of buses Smile

It is difficult to add much to what the other candidates and Anthony have
already answered to this question. Being DPL can definitely be a final
achievement that replenishes the energy and thirst for exploring other worlds.

In my case, I think that I am far from having achieved my goals in Debian. When
answering the "10 years" question, I wrote that I think that running Debian
will mean more than just having it on one's destkop computer. I want to
contribute to this adventure, this is why I participate to a Blends project and
more modestly to some efforts for bringing Debian in the Clouds. I think that
this combination, together with backports and snapshots, will be very powerful
in the future. But this also challenges the way we publish our work. One of my
motivations for standing as a DPL is to propose to the Project to expand in
that direction. I think that after a one year term, I will be eager to go back
to my Debian Med activities, and keep on hard work until the harvest.

Have a nice day,

[By the way, I apologise to all the persons who asked quiestions but did not yet
get an answer. As Stefano noted, this campaign is much more intensive than
last year's. This is something that I have not expected.]

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Charles Plessy · External Since: Mar 03, 2009 Posts: 190

Le Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:46:22AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl a écrit :
>
> That opens up for an interesting question: What ways to settle a
> conflict with fellow Debian Developers seem proper to you? Do we have
> to expect further unspecified ignores from your side should you be
> elected?

Le Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:58:47AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt a écrit :
>
> OK, so I do have a few followup questions:
> (1) What do you consider to be insulting or accusatory?
> (2) As example: Will you, as DPL, consider "You haven't answered in the
> past four weeks" as accusatory?
> (3) How will we, as DDs, know if you consider something as insuluting or
> accusatory?
> (4) Do you believe ignoring conflicts to be a solution?

Hi again,

ignoring conflicts is the best way to have them explode at the worse moment.
On the other hands, being insulted on a mailing list does not call for an
answer. This is the best receipe for having flamewars.

If I am elected DPL, I will not ignore requests. Neither will I filtrate my
mailbox (but deleting spam by hand also leads to accidental loss of messages).
I will read all my emails.

I hope I will not disapoint you, but I will not give a lecture of what is an
insult or what is not. I promise that I will not nitpick people's words to find
excuses to not do my DPL work.

Lastly, for the meaning of 'accusatory', perhaps I could have found a better
word? But I am not a native speaker. What I mean is that if in one message,
somebody writes 'you want this [bad thing]' or 'you did not do that [good
thing]', it can be better to refrain to answer in a discussion that goes
nowhere. As a DPL, however, I would clarify if people spread false informations
on our mailing lists.

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Neil McGovern · External Since: Feb 22, 2005 Posts: 54

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:36:05AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Lastly, for the meaning of 'accusatory', perhaps I could have found a
> better word? But I am not a native speaker. What I mean is that if in
> one message, somebody writes 'you want this [bad thing]' or 'you did
> not do that [good thing]', it can be better to refrain to answer in a
> discussion that goes nowhere. As a DPL, however, I would clarify if
> people spread false informations on our mailing lists.
>

The position of DPL attracts rather a lot of press attention. This at
times will be accusatory, inflamatory and downright rude. Welcome to the
world of journalism.

Do you intend to ignore these, or just ones from developers?

Neil
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Charles Plessy · External Since: Mar 03, 2009 Posts: 190

Le Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 08:12:17PM +0000, Neil McGovern a écrit :
>
> The position of DPL attracts rather a lot of press attention. This at
> times will be accusatory, inflamatory and downright rude. Welcome to the
> world of journalism.
>
> Do you intend to ignore these, or just ones from developers?

Hi Neil,

I think I remember discussions where people were disapointed about what
journalists have put in the DPL's mouth. For written interviews, I seriously
consider to post my answers first on -private for comments.

For something completely unrelated to Debian, I have done a phone interview in
the past. While the result was not too bad, the journalist was definitely in a
strong position to lead the discussion in a way that produces quite predictable
answers. If I am elected DPL, I will decline that kind of interviews.

If after all these precautions, there is an article that still deforms what I
said or wrote, then yes, depending on the situation I may ignore it according
to the importance of the media, perhaps after consulting the DDs on
debian-private. Internet is very big, and to try to correct things that are
written there often has the effect to make them more visible.

Have a nice day,

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