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Karl-Göran
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Yast repositories
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People!
Using Suse 10.3.
Have I missed something here? Going to
http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories Where a lot of
repositories for 10.3 are missing.
Is 10.3 not suported anymore? Where have all the yast repositories gone?

Thanks for any answer!
Göran
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Inge Svensson
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Karl-Göran skrev:
> People!
> Using Suse 10.3.
> Have I missed something here? Going to
> http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories Where a lot of
> repositories for 10.3 are missing.
> Is 10.3 not suported anymore? Where have all the yast repositories gone?
>
> Thanks for any answer!
> Göran
Don't know why it's gone, but its supported for just another two days:
http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Linux_Lifetime
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David Bolt
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Friday 30 Oct 2009 14:42, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
Inge Svensson painted this mural:

> Karl-Göran skrev:
>> People!
>> Using Suse 10.3.
>> Have I missed something here? Going to
>> http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories Where a lot of
>> repositories for 10.3 are missing.
>> Is 10.3 not suported anymore? Where have all the yast repositories gone?
>>
>> Thanks for any answer!
>> Göran
> Don't know why it's gone, but its supported for just another two days:
> http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Linux_Lifetime
> Inge Svensson

There was an announcement on the build service mailing list about a
week ago that, since openSUSE 10.3 was going EOL, the openSUSE:10.3
repo was being moved to the DISCONTINUED: namespace and all builds
against it would be disabled. The end result is that the 10.3 repos on
the build service will no longer exist, unless the maintainer decides
to build against the repos in the DISCONTINUED: namespace.


Regards,
David Bolt

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Karl-Göran
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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David Bolt wrote:

> On Friday 30 Oct 2009 14:42, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
> Inge Svensson painted this mural:
>
>> Karl-Göran skrev:
>>> People!
>>> Using Suse 10.3.
>>> Have I missed something here? Going to
>>> http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories Where a lot
>>> of repositories for 10.3 are missing.
>>> Is 10.3 not suported anymore? Where have all the yast repositories gone?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any answer!
>>> Göran
>> Don't know why it's gone, but its supported for just another two days:
>> http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Linux_Lifetime
>> Inge Svensson
>
> There was an announcement on the build service mailing list about a
> week ago that, since openSUSE 10.3 was going EOL, the openSUSE:10.3
> repo was being moved to the DISCONTINUED: namespace and all builds
> against it would be disabled. The end result is that the 10.3 repos on
> the build service will no longer exist, unless the maintainer decides
> to build against the repos in the DISCONTINUED: namespace.
>
>
> Regards,
> David Bolt
>
Thanks for Your answers, I guess it's time to update.

Göran
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houghi
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Karl-Göran wrote:
> Thanks for Your answers, I guess it's time to update.

Wait two weeks: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_11.2

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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houghi wrote:
> Karl-Göran wrote:
>> Thanks for Your answers, I guess it's time to update.
>
> Wait two weeks: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_11.2
>
> houghi

The end of life for 11.1 is 12/31/2010, and since I recently fixed my
setup from KDE to Gnome, and I'm happy with the way it works, I think
I'll stay with it even though I'm testing the Fedora and openSUSE live
cd's.

But I'd update if I was still running 10.3.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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rafter22 wrote:
> houghi wrote:
>> Karl-Göran wrote:
>>> Thanks for Your answers, I guess it's time to update.
>> Wait two weeks: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_11.2
>>
>> houghi
>
> The end of life for 11.1 is 12/31/2010, and since I recently fixed my
> setup from KDE to Gnome, and I'm happy with the way it works, I think
> I'll stay with it even though I'm testing the Fedora and openSUSE live
> cd's.
>
> But I'd update if I was still running 10.3.

FWIW, just installed the KDE 11.2 final release candidate and started
hitting buglets pretty much immediately (some the same ones from when I
tried earlier KDE version...and this is on a different computer
too)...anyways, I just nuked the install and have installed the Gnome
release today....will have to wait and see how this rascal turns out. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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rafter22 wrote:
> houghi wrote:
>> Karl-Göran wrote:
>>> Thanks for Your answers, I guess it's time to update.
>>
>> Wait two weeks: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_11.2
>>
>> houghi
>
> The end of life for 11.1 is 12/31/2010, and since I recently fixed my
> setup from KDE to Gnome, and I'm happy with the way it works, I think
> I'll stay with it even though I'm testing the Fedora and openSUSE live
> cd's.

Sure you should.

> But I'd update if I was still running 10.3.

That was what Karl-Göran was running.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> But I'd update if I was still running 10.3.

i tried 11.0, 11.1 and stuck with 10.3...i'm still trying to decide
what to move to:

-11.1
-11.2
-SLED
-CentOS
-Debian
-BSD
-?

sigh, i do not like the new 18 month forced jump..

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:10 am    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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DenverD wrote:

> i tried 11.0, 11.1 and stuck with 10.3...i'm still trying to decide
> what to move to:

What is the problem you can't move to newer versions?



> sigh, i do not like the new 18 month forced jump..

why?

I move to 11.2 in two weeks then we have a
distro upgrade with "zypper dup" Smile
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Marcel Bruinsma
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:10 am    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Am Samstag, 31. Oktober 2009 08:32, DenverD a écrit :

>> But I'd update if I was still running 10.3.
>
> i tried 11.0, 11.1 and stuck with 10.3...

Been there, done that… Wink

> i'm still trying to decide what to move to:

Dug the trenches, upped the guard, attempt to survive the next
six months with 10.3; hopefully, by then 11.2 will be reasonably
stable. If not, I will move to Gentoo (very malleable).

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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DenverD wrote:
>> But I'd update if I was still running 10.3.
>
> i tried 11.0, 11.1 and stuck with 10.3...i'm still trying to decide
> what to move to:
>
> -11.1
> -11.2
> -SLED
> -CentOS
> -Debian
> -BSD
> -?
>
> sigh, i do not like the new 18 month forced jump..

I would go with 11.2. The zypper dup is something I suspect to be fully
operational in 11.3. That means updating from version to version by just
doing `zypper dup`.

SLED has the advantage of 5+2 year support. Disadvantage is that you
must pay for it, the price is not that high and as a professional you
most likely can deduct it. It will make the forced jump a lot easier.

CentOS feels to me like stealing from RedHat who have done all the work,
so I would go for RedHat.

Debian is good, but not great. It does not feel finishec to me.

BSD is an whole other matter.

So if updating is really not something what you want and all you want is
to run software, then go for SLED.

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EOS wrote:
> I move to 11.2 in two weeks then we have a
> distro upgrade with "zypper dup" Smile

I hope zypper dup will be working as expected when 11.3 comes out, but I
would not bet on it. I would think that 11.3 will be working or even
12.0 as 11.3 will be the first version that will be the test and when
that is out, it might be too late.

I am especialy thinking about stuff that was not installed by zypper.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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DenverD wrote:
>> But I'd update if I was still running 10.3.
>
> i tried 11.0, 11.1 and stuck with 10.3...i'm still trying to decide
> what to move to:
>
> -11.1
> -11.2
> -SLED
> -CentOS
> -Debian
> -BSD
> -?
>
> sigh, i do not like the new 18 month forced jump..
>
I don't run suse, rather Mint/Ubuntu, and I don't like to jump every six
months or 18 either. Wish they would stay stable for a longer period of
time.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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CF wrote:

> DenverD wrote:
>>> But I'd update if I was still running 10.3.
>>
>> i tried 11.0, 11.1 and stuck with 10.3...i'm still trying to decide
>> what to move to:
>>
>> -11.1
>> -11.2
>> -SLED
>> -CentOS
>> -Debian
>> -BSD
>> -?
>>
>> sigh, i do not like the new 18 month forced jump..
>>
> I don't run suse, rather Mint/Ubuntu, and I don't like to jump every six
> months or 18 either. Wish they would stay stable for a longer period of
> time.

They do. Both Ubuntu as well as Novell/Suse have versions which stay
stable for a long time.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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CF <CF RemoveThis @example.invalid> wrote:
>DenverD wrote:
>>> But I'd update if I was still running 10.3.
>>
>> i tried 11.0, 11.1 and stuck with 10.3...i'm still trying to decide
>> what to move to:
>>
>> -11.1
>> -11.2
>> -SLED
>> -CentOS
>> -Debian
>> -BSD
>> -?
>>
>> sigh, i do not like the new 18 month forced jump..
>>
>I don't run suse, rather Mint/Ubuntu, and I don't like to jump every six
>months or 18 either. Wish they would stay stable for a longer period of
>time.

It isn't quite that bad. 11.0 will have updates available for
close to 18 months, give or take. By then there likely will be
enough new stuff that one would want to upgrade.

One does not have to upgrade every time a new release comes out.
That is particularly true of Ubuntu.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:10 am    Post subject: Re: Yast repositories [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Paul J Gans wrote:

>>> sigh, i do not like the new 18 month forced jump..
>>>
> One does not have to upgrade every time a new release comes out.
> That is particularly true of Ubuntu.
>

Paul, if one upgrades every time openSUSE releases that would be a
jump every *8* months....the only way you can get to 18 months is
install *on* the day it is released and skip the next two releases,
then install the third on its day of release!

see: http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Linux_Lifetime

meaning, if you are just a little bit smart and let those first few
months (after release) of Patch Blizzard subside, you can easily wind
up with closer to a one year between forced upgrades..

[well, you are not actually *forced* to upgrade, you can always run
with unsupported software (as i am today) or you can jump ship..]

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In <hcg3qs$43a$1@news.eternal-september.org>, on 10/30/2009
at 06:27 PM, propman <propman.TakeThisOut@nowhere.ca> said:

>anyways, I just nuked the install and have installed the Gnome release
>today

Gnome release? When did they start having separate distributions for Gnome
and KDE?

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In <slrnheo739.2rj.houghi RemoveThis @penne.houghi>, on 10/31/2009
at 12:15 PM, houghi <houghi RemoveThis @houghi.org.invalid> said:

>SLED has the advantage of 5+2 year support. Disadvantage is that you must
>pay for it, the price is not that high and as a professional you most
>likely can deduct it.

Do they now ship all of the packages that they do in the shrink wrap
openSUSE? The last time I looked at SLED it was missing a lot.

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Shmuel Metz wrote:
>>SLED has the advantage of 5+2 year support. Disadvantage is that you must
>>pay for it, the price is not that high and as a professional you most
>>likely can deduct it.
>
> Do they now ship all of the packages that they do in the shrink wrap
> openSUSE?

No.

> The last time I looked at SLED it was missing a lot.

It is not missing anything. They just did not put it in there.

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