Webhosting and Linux

h. · External Since: Dec 27, 2006 Posts: 2

I am used to make my own homepages in simple HTML/CSS with windows notepad.

Now I am planning to get me my own domainname and hosting.

Questions:

As I am not used to work with Linux, and as most hosting is based on Linux,
I would like to know what problems I could encounter in not knowing anything
about Linux....?

Can I just upload my html code to that Linux server? Or are there problems I
have to count on?

As said, I do not yet have any knowledge of Linux.

H.

Beowulf · External Since: Nov 29, 2006 Posts: 149

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:26:04 +0100, h. wrote:
> As I am not used to work with Linux, and as most hosting is based on Linux,
> I would like to know what problems I could encounter in not knowing anything
> about Linux....?

None. Get yourself a good ftp client program like WS_FTP for MS-WIndows,
or perhaps a free open source alternative (I use gFTP on linux, it might
be available for Windows) so you can easily manage transfers of files-- it
is quite easy.

> Can I just upload my html code to that Linux server? Or are there problems I
> have to count on?

Yes. Knowledge of linux is needed by the hosting company and their geeks,
you do not need to know linux to simply use a hosting company using linux
servers.

I recommend lunarpages.com, I have had my pages hosted with them for
years, affordable and powerful control panel.

ray · External Since: Nov 13, 2004 Posts: 3387

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:26:04 +0100, h. wrote:

> I am used to make my own homepages in simple HTML/CSS with windows notepad.

'nedit' is highly recommended.

>
> Now I am planning to get me my own domainname and hosting.
>
> Questions:
>
> As I am not used to work with Linux, and as most hosting is based on Linux,
> I would like to know what problems I could encounter in not knowing anything
> about Linux....?

Can't think of any - what's the difference.

>
> Can I just upload my html code to that Linux server? Or are there problems I
> have to count on?

Should not be any problem. 'real' servers prfer .html extension to .htm -
but that's about it.

>
> As said, I do not yet have any knowledge of Linux.
>
> H.

Beowulf · External Since: Nov 29, 2006 Posts: 149

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:02:11 -0700, ray wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:26:04 +0100, h. wrote:
>
>> I am used to make my own homepages in simple HTML/CSS with windows notepad.
>
> 'nedit' is highly recommended.

Also nvu or mozilla composer; I have experienced problems with nvu
crashing in Mandriva, but it seems quite stable in Ubuntu. Mozilla
composer is also rock stable in my opinion. Both are easy to use HTML
editors. If OP wants to just do text editing of HTML/CSS then vim (vi) or
gedit are also simple text editors.

ray · External Since: Nov 13, 2004 Posts: 3387

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:13:26 -0600, Beowulf wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:02:11 -0700, ray wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:26:04 +0100, h. wrote:
>>
>>> I am used to make my own homepages in simple HTML/CSS with windows notepad.
>>
>> 'nedit' is highly recommended.
>
> Also nvu or mozilla composer; I have experienced problems with nvu
> crashing in Mandriva, but it seems quite stable in Ubuntu. Mozilla
> composer is also rock stable in my opinion. Both are easy to use HTML
> editors. If OP wants to just do text editing of HTML/CSS then vim (vi) or
> gedit are also simple text editors.

IMHO - the html editors are probably all right if you need to manage a
LARGE project, but are overkill for anything else. Generally they generate
bloated, inefficient code. The OP indicates he's been doing his stuff with
notepad, so a decent editor should suffice. I don't care much for vim or
other terminal oriented editors - we got GUIs, we should use decent full
featured editors, and nedit is the best one I've found. It does a decent
job of showing structures properly in most any language.

h. · External Since: Dec 27, 2006 Posts: 2

Thx,
Lunarpages looks impressive on their website.

More recommandations anyone?
As I am in Holland, tips from around there are welcome also....

H.

ray · External Since: Nov 13, 2004 Posts: 3387

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:39:34 +0100, h. wrote:

> Thx,
> Lunarpages looks impressive on their website.
>
> More recommandations anyone?
> As I am in Holland, tips from around there are welcome also....
>
> H.

I have been quite pleased with the service I've had from netfirms.com. I
host my personal web site there (rcarter.net) as well as several
non-profit organizations I help on a volunteer basis (gatewayhabitat.org
and pocatelloarts.org). The cost is $5/mo. They've given me good and
timely support when I've requested it.

Tips · External Since: Dec 22, 2006 Posts: 8

Beowulf wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:02:11 -0700, ray wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:26:04 +0100, h. wrote:
>>
>>> I am used to make my own homepages in simple HTML/CSS with windows
>>> notepad.
>>
>> 'nedit' is highly recommended.
>
> Also nvu or mozilla composer; I have experienced problems with nvu
> crashing in Mandriva, but it seems quite stable in Ubuntu. Mozilla
> composer is also rock stable in my opinion. Both are easy to use HTML
> editors. If OP wants to just do text editing of HTML/CSS then vim (vi) or
> gedit are also simple text editors.

Vim could only be called "simple" if starting with Cream:
http://cream.sourceforge.net/

--
http://tips.webdesign10.com/

Tips · External Since: Dec 22, 2006 Posts: 8

Beowulf wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:26:04 +0100, h. wrote:
>> As I am not used to work with Linux, and as most hosting is based on
>> Linux, I would like to know what problems I could encounter in not
>> knowing anything about Linux....?
>
> None. Get yourself a good ftp client program like WS_FTP for MS-WIndows,
> or perhaps a free open source alternative (I use gFTP on linux, it might
> be available for Windows) so you can easily manage transfers of files-- it
> is quite easy.

For Windows, use Filezilla -- a free open-source FTP program:
http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/

I wish there were a version Filezilla for Linux.

Tips · External Since: Dec 22, 2006 Posts: 8

h. wrote:

> Thx,
> Lunarpages looks impressive on their website.
>
> More recommandations anyone?
> As I am in Holland, tips from around there are welcome also....

Bluehost is decent, but they can't seem to handle the latest version of
Drupal (4.7). Other than that, they are good for cheap shared web hosting.

For WordPress hosting try Webbleyou.com.

--
http://tips.webdesign10.com/

Tips · External Since: Dec 22, 2006 Posts: 8

Tips wrote:

> For Windows, use Filezilla -- a free open-source FTP program:
> http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/
>
> I wish there were a version Filezilla for Linux.

I forgot to mention -- I once did get Portable Filezilla running on Ubuntu
with WINE, but I'm not sure if I would use that solution for daily FTP in
Linux.

--
http://tips.webdesign10.com/

Handover Phist · External Since: Nov 07, 2006 Posts: 367

On 2006-12-30, Tips <see_reply-to_address.TakeThisOut@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Tips wrote:
>
>> For Windows, use Filezilla -- a free open-source FTP program:
>> http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> I wish there were a version Filezilla for Linux.
>
> I forgot to mention -- I once did get Portable Filezilla running on Ubuntu
> with WINE, but I'm not sure if I would use that solution for daily FTP in
> Linux.

GFTP doesn't do it for you? I use it all the time.

--
The cow is nothing but a machine which makes grass fit for us people to eat.
-- John McNulty

http://www.websterscafe.com

Tips · External Since: Dec 22, 2006 Posts: 8

Handover Phist wrote:

> On 2006-12-30, Tips <see_reply-to_address DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Tips wrote:
>>
>>> For Windows, use Filezilla -- a free open-source FTP program:
>>> http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> I wish there were a version Filezilla for Linux.
>>
>> I forgot to mention -- I once did get Portable Filezilla running on
>> Ubuntu with WINE, but I'm not sure if I would use that solution for daily
>> FTP in Linux.
>
> GFTP doesn't do it for you? I use it all the time.

I don't like gFTP much. I use Konqueror for FTP in GNOME because I can
split the screen and connect to multiple servers at once.

Both gFTP and Konqueror often stall and fail on very large transfers. I
still haven't figured out a way around it.

Filezilla is a great program. I'm surprised no one has ported it to
Linux -- it's GPL.

ray · External Since: Nov 13, 2004 Posts: 3387

On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:35:25 -0500, Tips wrote:

> Handover Phist wrote:
>
>> On 2006-12-30, Tips <see_reply-to_address DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Tips wrote:
>>>
>>>> For Windows, use Filezilla -- a free open-source FTP program:
>>>> http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/
>>>>
>>>> I wish there were a version Filezilla for Linux.
>>>
>>> I forgot to mention -- I once did get Portable Filezilla running on
>>> Ubuntu with WINE, but I'm not sure if I would use that solution for daily
>>> FTP in Linux.
>>
>> GFTP doesn't do it for you? I use it all the time.
>
> I don't like gFTP much. I use Konqueror for FTP in GNOME because I can
> split the screen and connect to multiple servers at once.
>
> Both gFTP and Konqueror often stall and fail on very large transfers. I
> still haven't figured out a way around it.
>
> Filezilla is a great program. I'm surprised no one has ported it to
> Linux -- it's GPL.

So, why don't you do that Wink

Handover Phist · External Since: Nov 07, 2006 Posts: 367

On 2006-12-30, Tips <see_reply-to_address RemoveThis @nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Handover Phist wrote:
>
>> On 2006-12-30, Tips <see_reply-to_address RemoveThis @nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Tips wrote:
>>>
>>>> For Windows, use Filezilla -- a free open-source FTP program:
>>>> http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/
>>>>
>>>> I wish there were a version Filezilla for Linux.
>>>
>>> I forgot to mention -- I once did get Portable Filezilla running on
>>> Ubuntu with WINE, but I'm not sure if I would use that solution for daily
>>> FTP in Linux.
>>
>> GFTP doesn't do it for you? I use it all the time.
>
> I don't like gFTP much. I use Konqueror for FTP in GNOME because I can
> split the screen and connect to multiple servers at once.
>
> Both gFTP and Konqueror often stall and fail on very large transfers. I
> still haven't figured out a way around it.

Ah, Gftp used to do that to me as well but I've found it stable on
Debian Etch.

> Filezilla is a great program. I'm surprised no one has ported it to
> Linux -- it's GPL.

Might take a bit of doing if it's written in c++, and with all the FTP
alternatives out there there probably isn't a programmer who cares
enough to port it. Whatever, you may find yourself surprised when it is,
or you could even do it.

--
Woman inspires us to great things, and prevents us from achieving them.
-- Dumas

http://www.websterscafe.com

Tips · External Since: Dec 22, 2006 Posts: 8

ray wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:35:25 -0500, Tips wrote:

>> Filezilla is a great program. I'm surprised no one has ported it to
>> Linux -- it's GPL.
>
> So, why don't you do that Wink

Becuase I don't know C or C++, and I already work 12+ hours a day.
Smile