Ubuntu.

Leigh · External Since: May 13, 2009 Posts: 5

I believe Ubuntu is a form of Debian but can't find a specific Ubuntu
group.

I've download Ubuntu 9.04 desktop ISO twice from two different mirror
sites.

I've used SUSE to burn three disks two from one site and the other one
once to either a CR-R or CR-RW with turned on.

I've tried to boot Ubuntu from all these disks across four different
systems (two desktop and two laptop) and none has worked beyond the
first splash screen and selecting install. The disks usually grind
away with no faults being shown. The same happens when I pick "Try
Ubuntu without any change to your computer"

At the same time I burnt FreeBSD, PING, FreeNAS and these do work on
the same systems as do ordinary audio disks on all these computers.

Why is this happening.

Leigh · External Since: May 13, 2009 Posts: 5

On May 13, 5:02 pm, "John F. Morse" <xanadu.... DeleteThis @example.invalid>
wrote:
> Leigh wrote:
> > I believe Ubuntu is a form of Debian but can't find a specific Ubuntu
> > group.
>
> alt.os.linux.ubuntu
>
> > I've download Ubuntu 9.04 desktop ISO twice from two different mirror
> > sites.
>
> Why twice?
>
> Did you check the md5sum to see if the downloaded iso was good?
>
> > I've used SUSE to burn three disks two from one site and the other one
> > once to either a CR-R or CR-RW with turned on.
>
> Did you use md5sum to see if the CD-R or CD-RW was good?
>
> > I've tried to boot Ubuntu from all these disks across four different
> > systems (two desktop and two laptop) and none has worked beyond the
> > first splash screen and selecting install. The disks usually grind
> > away with no faults being shown. The same happens when I pick "Try
> > Ubuntu without any change to your computer"
>
> > At the same time I burnt FreeBSD, PING, FreeNAS and these do work on
> > the same systems as do ordinary audio disks on all these computers.
>
> > Why is this happening.
>
> Eliminate the possibilities by using md5sum.
>
> Then, if you still can't get an Ubuntu LiveCD to boot into a live
> session, go to a.o.l.ubuntu and ask for assistance.
>
> --
> John
>
> No Microsoft, Apple, AT&T, Novell, Trend Micro, nor Ford products were used in the preparation or transmission of this message.
>
> The EULA sounds like it was written by a team of lawyers who want to tell me what I can't do. The GPL sounds like it was written by a human being, who wants me to know what I can do.

Yes I did do the MD5.

I downloaded it the first time and burnt a disk which didn't appear to
work.

I downloaded it again from another UK site and burnt the disk twice
once each to a CD-R and CD-RW (incase it was a reflectivity problem).

I can't find an MD5 for the ISO on the Ubuntu website. The creation of
the CD has a top level file with a list of MD5 numbers against some
packages etc. I ran a few of them and they were OK.

Leigh · External Since: May 13, 2009 Posts: 5

On May 13, 6:22 pm, Leigh <LGBow....RemoveThis@LeighGBowden.co.uk> wrote:
> On May 13, 5:02 pm, "John F. Morse" <xanadu.....RemoveThis@example.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Leigh wrote:
> > > I believe Ubuntu is a form of Debian but can't find a specific Ubuntu
> > > group.
>
> > alt.os.linux.ubuntu
>
> > > I've download Ubuntu 9.04 desktop ISO twice from two different mirror
> > > sites.
>
> > Why twice?
>
> > Did you check the md5sum to see if the downloaded iso was good?
>
> > > I've used SUSE to burn three disks two from one site and the other one
> > > once to either a CR-R or CR-RW with turned on.
>
> > Did you use md5sum to see if the CD-R or CD-RW was good?
>
> > > I've tried to boot Ubuntu from all these disks across four different
> > > systems (two desktop and two laptop) and none has worked beyond the
> > > first splash screen and selecting install. The disks usually grind
> > > away with no faults being shown. The same happens when I pick "Try
> > > Ubuntu without any change to your computer"
>
> > > At the same time I burnt FreeBSD, PING, FreeNAS and these do work on
> > > the same systems as do ordinary audio disks on all these computers.
>
> > > Why is this happening.
>
> > Eliminate the possibilities by using md5sum.
>
> > Then, if you still can't get an Ubuntu LiveCD to boot into a live
> > session, go to a.o.l.ubuntu and ask for assistance.
>
> > --
> > John
>
> > No Microsoft, Apple, AT&T, Novell, Trend Micro, nor Ford products were used in the preparation or transmission of this message.
>
> > The EULA sounds like it was written by a team of lawyers who want to tell me what I can't do. The GPL sounds like it was written by a human being, who wants me to know what I can do.
>
> Yes I did do the MD5.
>
> I downloaded it the first time and burnt a disk which didn't appear to
> work.
>
> I downloaded it again from another UK site and burnt the disk twice
> once each to a CD-R and CD-RW (incase it was a reflectivity problem).
>
> I can't find an MD5 for the ISO on the Ubuntu website. The creation of
> the CD has a top level file with a list of MD5 numbers against some
> packages etc. I ran a few of them and they were OK.

Here is the cd

BACKUP:/media/cdrecorder # md5sum -c md5sum.txt
../casper/filesystem.manifest: OK
../casper/filesystem.manifest-desktop: OK
../casper/initrd.gz: OK
../casper/filesystem.squashfs: OK
../casper/vmlinuz: OK
../dists/jaunty/Release: OK
../dists/jaunty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: OK
../dists/jaunty/restricted/binary-i386/Release: OK
../dists/jaunty/Release.gpg: OK
../dists/jaunty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: OK
../dists/jaunty/main/binary-i386/Release: OK
../pics/blue-upperright.png: OK
../pics/blue-lowerleft.png: OK
../pics/blue-upperleft.png: OK
../pics/logo-50.jpg: OK
../pics/red-upperright.png: OK
../pics/red-upperleft.png: OK
../pics/red-lowerright.png: OK
../pics/red-lowerleft.png: OK
../pics/debian.jpg: OK
../pics/blue-lowerright.png: OK
../.disk/casper-uuid-generic: OK
../.disk/release_notes_url: OK
../.disk/cd_type: OK
../.disk/base_installable: OK
../.disk/info: OK
../autorun.inf: OK
../install/README.sbm: OK
../install/sbm.bin: OK
../install/mt86plus: OK
../preseed/ubuntu.seed: OK
../preseed/ltsp.seed: OK
../preseed/cli.seed: OK
../pool/restricted/d/drdsl/drdsl_1.2.0-1_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/n/ndisgtk/ndisgtk_0.8.4-1_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-common_1.53-2ubuntu1_all.deb: OK
../pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-
utils-1.9_1.53-2ubuntu1_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.4_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/b/bpalogin/bpalogin_2.0.2-12_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/b/b43-fwcutter/b43-fwcutter_011-5_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg-dev_1.14.24ubuntu1_all.deb: OK
../pool/main/g/gcc-4.3/libstdc++6-4.3-dev_4.3.3-5ubuntu4_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/g/gcc-4.3/g++-4.3_4.3.3-5ubuntu4_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/g/gcc-defaults/g++_4.3.3-1ubuntu1_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/m/mouseemu/mouseemu_0.16-0ubuntu3_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/i/isdnutils/isdnutils-
base_3.12.20071127-0ubuntu5_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/i/isdnutils/ipppd_3.12.20071127-0ubuntu5_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/i/isdnutils/isdnutils-
xtools_3.12.20071127-0ubuntu5_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/i/isdnutils/libcapi20-dev_3.12.20071127-0ubuntu5_i386.deb:
OK
../pool/main/i/isdnutils/
pppdcapiplugin_3.12.20071127-0ubuntu5_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/i/isdnutils/libcapi20-3_3.12.20071127-0ubuntu5_i386.deb:
OK
../pool/main/i/isdnutils/capiutils_3.12.20071127-0ubuntu5_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/f/fakeroot/fakeroot_1.12.1ubuntu1_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/p/pptp-linux/pptp-linux_1.7.2-1_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/p/patch/patch_2.5.9-5_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/o/oem-config/oem-config-gtk_1.54.13_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/o/oem-config/oem-config_1.54.13_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/l/linux-wlan-ng/linux-wlan-ng-
doc_0.2.9+dfsg-2ubuntu2_all.deb: OK
../pool/main/l/linux-wlan-ng/linux-wlan-
ng_0.2.9+dfsg-2ubuntu2_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/l/linux-atm/libatm1_2.4.1-17.2_i386.deb: OK
../pool/main/l/localechooser/localechooser-data_2.09ubuntu2_all.deb: OK
../pool/main/l/lupin/lupin-support_0.22_all.deb: OK
../pool/main/s/setserial/setserial_2.17-45_i386.deb: OK
../wubi.exe: OK
../README.diskdefines: OK

John F. Morse · External Since: May 06, 2009 Posts: 2

Leigh wrote:
> I believe Ubuntu is a form of Debian but can't find a specific Ubuntu
> group.
>

alt.os.linux.ubuntu

> I've download Ubuntu 9.04 desktop ISO twice from two different mirror
> sites.
>

Why twice?

Did you check the md5sum to see if the downloaded iso was good?

> I've used SUSE to burn three disks two from one site and the other one
> once to either a CR-R or CR-RW with turned on.
>

Did you use md5sum to see if the CD-R or CD-RW was good?

> I've tried to boot Ubuntu from all these disks across four different
> systems (two desktop and two laptop) and none has worked beyond the
> first splash screen and selecting install. The disks usually grind
> away with no faults being shown. The same happens when I pick "Try
> Ubuntu without any change to your computer"
>
> At the same time I burnt FreeBSD, PING, FreeNAS and these do work on
> the same systems as do ordinary audio disks on all these computers.
>
> Why is this happening.
>

Eliminate the possibilities by using md5sum.

Then, if you still can't get an Ubuntu LiveCD to boot into a live
session, go to a.o.l.ubuntu and ask for assistance.

--
John

No Microsoft, Apple, AT&T, Novell, Trend Micro, nor Ford products were used in the preparation or transmission of this message.

The EULA sounds like it was written by a team of lawyers who want to tell me what I can't do. The GPL sounds like it was written by a human being, who wants me to know what I can do.

J G Miller · External Since: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 34

On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:02:55 -0500, John F. Morse wrote:

> go to a.o.l.ubuntu and ask for assistance.

And brace yourself for being called a Win-droid.

Mark Madsen · External Since: Feb 05, 2009 Posts: 32

On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:28:49 +0200, J G Miller wrote:

> On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:02:55 -0500, John F. Morse wrote:
>
> > go to a.o.l.ubuntu and ask for assistance.
>
> And brace yourself for being called a Win-droid.

Worse things happen in that group. Far worse things.

Being abused in a.o.l.slackware hurts less than being helped in
a.o.l.ubuntu ....

Mike McGinn · External Since: Jan 15, 2005 Posts: 5

On Wed, 13 May 2009 23:19:43 +0200, Mark Madsen wrote:

> On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:28:49 +0200, J G Miller wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:02:55 -0500, John F. Morse wrote:
>>
>> > go to a.o.l.ubuntu and ask for assistance.
>>
>> And brace yourself for being called a Win-droid.
>
> Worse things happen in that group. Far worse things.
>
> Being abused in a.o.l.slackware hurts less than being helped in
> a.o.l.ubuntu ....

a.o.l.ubuntu drove me away. Too much noise - not enough signal. It is a
shame because it used to be a nice friendly group. Now it is full of
trolls hurling insults.

--
Mike McGinn
No electrons were harmed in sending this message.
My deeds are my dearest companions. I am the beneficiary of my deeds.
My deeds are the ground on which I stand.
"more kidneys than eyes!" "Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit."
Registered Linux User 377849

Nikos Chantziaras · External Since: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 274

Mike McGinn wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 23:19:43 +0200, Mark Madsen wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:28:49 +0200, J G Miller wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:02:55 -0500, John F. Morse wrote:
>>>
>>> > go to a.o.l.ubuntu and ask for assistance.
>>>
>>> And brace yourself for being called a Win-droid.
>> Worse things happen in that group. Far worse things.
>>
>> Being abused in a.o.l.slackware hurts less than being helped in
>> a.o.l.ubuntu ....
>
>
> a.o.l.ubuntu drove me away. Too much noise - not enough signal. It is a
> shame because it used to be a nice friendly group. Now it is full of
> trolls hurling insults.

There's also the mailing lists that can be accessed through NNTP (like
Usenet) on GMane:

http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=ubuntu

Leigh · External Since: May 13, 2009 Posts: 5

On May 13, 8:28 pm, J G Miller <mil... RemoveThis @yoyo.ORG> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:02:55 -0500, John F. Morse wrote:
>
> > go to a.o.l.ubuntu and ask for assistance.
>
> And brace yourself for being called a Win-droid.

OpenVMS actually.

Jon Rogers · External Since: May 14, 2009 Posts: 1

On 2009-05-13, Leigh <LGBowden RemoveThis @LeighGBowden.co.uk> wrote:
> I believe Ubuntu is a form of Debian but can't find a specific Ubuntu
> group.
>
> I've download Ubuntu 9.04 desktop ISO twice from two different mirror
> sites.
>
> I've used SUSE to burn three disks two from one site and the other one
> once to either a CR-R or CR-RW with turned on.
>
> I've tried to boot Ubuntu from all these disks across four different
> systems (two desktop and two laptop) and none has worked beyond the
> first splash screen and selecting install. The disks usually grind
> away with no faults being shown. The same happens when I pick "Try
> Ubuntu without any change to your computer"
>
> At the same time I burnt FreeBSD, PING, FreeNAS and these do work on
> the same systems as do ordinary audio disks on all these computers.
>
> Why is this happening.

I don't know, but if it's any comfort, I have exactly the same issue.

Tried downloading from Virgin Media and Canonical, both times the CDs
fail in multiple machines, with the same failure symptoms.

MD5 Sums are OK.

I gave up and used Linux Mint instead.

--
Jon
____________________________________________
jondotrogersatblueyonderdotcodotuk
============================================

highlandham · External Since: May 07, 2009 Posts: 4

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> snip
> There's also the mailing lists that can be accessed through NNTP (like
> Usenet) on GMane:
>
> http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=ubuntu
========================
Very useful , Tnx.

Frank

Leigh · External Since: May 13, 2009 Posts: 5

On May 14, 10:53 pm, Jon Rogers <brune....DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2009-05-13, Leigh <LGBow....DeleteThis@LeighGBowden.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I believe Ubuntu is a form of Debian but can't find a specific Ubuntu
> > group.
>
> > I've download Ubuntu 9.04 desktop ISO twice from two different mirror
> > sites.
>
> > I've used SUSE to burn three disks two from one site and the other one
> > once to either a CR-R or CR-RW with turned on.
>
> > I've tried to boot Ubuntu from all these disks across four different
> > systems (two desktop and two laptop) and none has worked beyond the
> > first splash screen and selecting install. The disks usually grind
> > away with no faults being shown. The same happens when I pick "Try
> > Ubuntu without any change to your computer"
>
> > At the same time I burnt FreeBSD, PING, FreeNAS and these do work on
> > the same systems as do ordinary audio disks on all these computers.
>
> > Why is this happening.
>
> I don't know, but if it's any comfort, I have exactly the same issue.
>
> Tried downloading from Virgin Media and Canonical, both times the CDs
> fail in multiple machines, with the same failure symptoms.
>
> MD5 Sums are OK.
>
> I gave up and used Linux Mint instead.
>
> --
> Jon
> ____________________________________________
> jondotrogersatblueyonderdotcodotuk
> ============================================

That's a relief. Burnt a disk again with MS Windows this time and it
booted first time.

wimpunk · External Since: May 20, 2009 Posts: 2

On 2009-05-13, Leigh <LGBowden DeleteThis @LeighGBowden.co.uk> wrote:
> I believe Ubuntu is a form of Debian but can't find a specific Ubuntu
> group.
>
> I've download Ubuntu 9.04 desktop ISO twice from two different mirror
> sites.
>
> I've used SUSE to burn three disks two from one site and the other one
> once to either a CR-R or CR-RW with turned on.
>
> I've tried to boot Ubuntu from all these disks across four different
> systems (two desktop and two laptop) and none has worked beyond the
> first splash screen and selecting install. The disks usually grind
> away with no faults being shown. The same happens when I pick "Try
> Ubuntu without any change to your computer"
>
> At the same time I burnt FreeBSD, PING, FreeNAS and these do work on
> the same systems as do ordinary audio disks on all these computers.
>
> Why is this happening.

I've got the same result with an image with a wrong md5 result...