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Carlos Renato Tasinafo
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Quagga
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Hello All,

I'd like to known if anyone here uses Quagga (BGP daemon particularly)
in large-scale ( 6 neighbours - full routing )
I'm worried about the performance of the system. Anyone have any
experience?
Thanks in advance


Regards
Carlos Renato Tasinafo


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Carlos Renato Tasinafo
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Quagga [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jogi Hofmüller wrote:
> Hi!
>
> * Carlos Renato Tasinafo <renato.RemoveThis@internetzone.com.br> [2007-07-04 12:26]:
>
>
>> I'd like to known if anyone here uses Quagga (BGP daemon particularly)
>> in large-scale ( 6 neighbours - full routing )
>>
>
> A little smaller, but still: 2 neighbours, not yet full routing table.
> Runs on P4 with 2.8GHz and 1G RAM. The machine spends 99.17% in idle
> task, using about 80M of memory (part of it is the ramdisk).
>
> The machine has three fast-ethernet NICs but never has to handle more
> than about 10mbps throughput.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> j.
>
Thank you so much Jogi,
I'm not sure about the performance, because I had a bad experience with
Cisco 3640 . When I activated the full routing mode in this router,
the bgp connection was reset apparently because lack of memory. One
and half years ago the routing table received (full) was approximately
160k , Today I think this number is above 220 k.
Best regards,

Carlos Renato Tasinafo.



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Maarten Vink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Quagga [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Op 4-jul-2007, om 12:26 heeft Carlos Renato Tasinafo het volgende
geschreven:

> Hello All,
>
> I'd like to known if anyone here uses Quagga (BGP daemon
> particularly) in large-scale ( 6 neighbours - full routing )
> I'm worried about the performance of the system. Anyone have any
> experience?
> Thanks in advance
>

You shouldn't worry too much about quagga performance (quagga's CPU
usage won't be a limiting factor, the main limit will be how fast
your machine can forward packets), and one of the main advantages of
using quagga is that memory for your typical Linux system is a LOT
cheaper than Cisco's.

For your reference: I just checked one of our routers, the "zebra"
process is using 50 MB, and "bgpd" is using about 100. We receive two
feeds of about 220k routes. So for the current size of the routing
table I'd guess you need at least 350 MB of memory (6x 50 MB for
bgpd, and 50 for zebra).

Regards,

Maarten


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thomas
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Quagga [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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We are using quagga as core router.
Only one BGP neighbor, and currently using Dual Xeon and 4G of ECC RAM.
First of all, try to use intel NIC card rather than other brand, because
intel NIC card could handle more packet than others like realtek.
secondly, I would suggest you put 1-2G RAM to your router, because you
WILL use other things on router such as SNMP daemon to monitor bandwidth,
CPU usage, memory usage...etc which also take up memory.


>
> Op 4-jul-2007, om 12:26 heeft Carlos Renato Tasinafo het volgende
> geschreven:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I'd like to known if anyone here uses Quagga (BGP daemon
>> particularly) in large-scale ( 6 neighbours - full routing )
>> I'm worried about the performance of the system. Anyone have any
>> experience?
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>
> You shouldn't worry too much about quagga performance (quagga's CPU
> usage won't be a limiting factor, the main limit will be how fast
> your machine can forward packets), and one of the main advantages of
> using quagga is that memory for your typical Linux system is a LOT
> cheaper than Cisco's.
>
> For your reference: I just checked one of our routers, the "zebra"
> process is using 50 MB, and "bgpd" is using about 100. We receive two
> feeds of about 220k routes. So for the current size of the routing
> table I'd guess you need at least 350 MB of memory (6x 50 MB for
> bgpd, and 50 for zebra).
>
> Regards,
>
> Maarten
>
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Jean-Paul Blaquiere
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:20 am    Post subject: Re: Quagga [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> On Jul 04, Carlos Renato Tasinafo illuminated :

> I'd like to known if anyone here uses Quagga (BGP daemon particularly)
> in large-scale ( 6 neighbours - full routing )
> I'm worried about the performance of the system. Anyone have any
> experience?
> Thanks in advance
>
http://www.fubra.com/blog/2007/04/first-mac-mini-bgp-routers-on-worlds.html

points to an article about a pair of Mac Minis running Quagga tied in to
a pair of gigabit switches.
They say they are moving about 42mbit of traffic, no statement on the
size of their routing table though.


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