Pending membership requests

Gunnar Wolf · External Since: Nov 12, 2004 Posts: 200

Hi,

I have two pending membership requests on Alioth:

Marc-Andre Lureau (elmarco-guest)
Hendrik Frenzel (hfrenzel-guest)

Marc-Andre, Hendric: Could you please introduce yourselves, tell us
what do you/have you/will you do, or why do you want to join the
pkg-perl group?

Greetings,

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Gunnar Wolf · External Since: Nov 12, 2004 Posts: 200

Marc-André Lureau dijo [Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 05:41:53PM +0300]:
> Hi there,
>
> Thank you first for let me say a few words, Smile

> I enjoy debian and started to do some packaging stuffs. It took me a while
> to get used to the process, but now I feel more confident and ready to do
> more, eager to learn. My first package is vala (in queue). And I have other
> nice tools I would like to promote and maintain (moap).
>
> Ack is one of the tool I would like to have in Debian. It's written in Perl.
> I made a RFS, and someone told me about your group existence. That's why I
> am happy to join to follow debian-perl standards and tools (and find a
> sponsor btw).
>
> Here is ack on mentors:
>
> - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/a/ack
> - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
> main contrib non-free
> - dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/a/ack/ack_1.64-1.dsc
>
>
> It needs File::Next
>
> - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libfile-next-perl
> - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
> main contrib non-free
> - dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libfile-next-perl/libfile...xt-perl
>
> Should I start uploading it in debian-perl svn?

Hi,

Ok, so I'm adding you as of right now - Welcome aboard!

Now, about the packages you propose: The group's goal is to support
Perl modules in Debian - libfile-next-perl would be a welcome addition
to the repository. The only package we currently have that's a tool
and not a module is dh-make-perl - but we addded it because its _goal_
is to package modules, and it just makes sense Wink

Now, it's not that I'm deciding on behalf of everybody that 'ack'
should not enter our repository (everybody has their voice, and it
might be worthy to add some other packages - I don't suggest going
that way, but we could debate on it), it's just that it not what we
currently do.

Greetings,

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Jeremiah Foster · External Since: Jul 19, 2006 Posts: 30

On Aug 9, 2007, at 8:23 AM, Damyan Ivanov wrote:

> -=| gregor herrmann, 9.08.2007 01:28 |=-
>> Maybe there's some confusion about ack - is this a module or an
>> application?

This was in fact a source of confusion for me.

>> If we are talking about
>> http://search.cpan.org/~petdance/ack-1.64/Ack.pm (App::Ack) then
>> there's no question, I guess Wink

It seems to be a bit of a hybrid. Andy Lester obviously has a good
deal of programming experience and built himself a tool to use as a
partial replacement to grep but it seems he built it so it might be
extensible and fit within the standard module format.

> That one looks like a module that is only usable by the application. I
> would consider this module being part of the application (i.e. not
> deserving separate libapp-ack package etc).

I kind of agree - it looks like the module's _only_ real purpose is
for ack the application. At least at this point, perhaps if it gets
used by other modules it might be seen as something else than just an
application packaged as a module.

> OTOH, I wonder how bad would it be to have this package in pkg-perl?
> Yes, it does not fit into the declared goals, but how much a perl-
> based
> application is different to a perl module in regards to packaging?

This is the part that I find a bit confusing frankly. I feel I don't
have the experience with packaging for debian to be able to add
constructively to the discussion at the moment.

Jeremiah

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