Opera 9.64

Jan van Gent · External Since: Mar 04, 2009 Posts: 6

Since I started to use 9.64 this afternoon, I've experienced 5 crashes
without warning, Opera suddenly closed.

Ubuntu 8.10, (Linux 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009
i686 GNU/Linux)

Version information
Version
9.64
Build
2480
Platform
Linux
System
i686, 2.6.27-11-generic
Qt library
3.3.8b
Java
Java Runtime Environment installed
Browser identification

Opera/9.64 (X11; Linux i686; U; en-GB) Presto/2.1.1

Wouldn't it be wise to include a `report bug` link in the help menu?

Jan

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TimC · External Since: Mar 05, 2009 Posts: 1

On 2009-03-04, Jan van Gent (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> Since I started to use 9.64 this afternoon, I've experienced 5 crashes
> without warning, Opera suddenly closed.
>
> Ubuntu 8.10, (Linux 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009
> i686 GNU/Linux)
....
> Opera/9.64 (X11; Linux i686; U; en-GB) Presto/2.1.1
>
> Wouldn't it be wise to include a `report bug` link in the help menu?

Incidentally, was your previous (presumably non-crashing) version 9.63
(in which case this is a new bug), or did you upgrade from something
earlier (in which case it could be any number of the bugs that have
popped up lately)?

I've been getting predictable crashes every few days (and I would
believe that it would happen 5 times a day if you used it more than
me) since about 9.61 (drawing errors for a little while, followed by
menus that don't appear anymore, followed by it finally just
freezing), and I was hoping that the "stability fixes" marked in the
changelog were relating to that.

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David W. Hodgins · External Since: Dec 04, 2005 Posts: 277

On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:12:35 -0500, Jan van Gent <janvan{away}gent@zonnet.nl> wrote:

> Since I started to use 9.64 this afternoon, I've experienced 5 crashes
> without warning, Opera suddenly closed.
> Ubuntu 8.10, (Linux 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009
> i686 GNU/Linux)

It may be useful to capture a crash log. See
http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/825/

> Wouldn't it be wise to include a `report bug` link in the help menu?

Seems like a good idea to me. Anyway, bug reports are submitted at
https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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Jan van Gent · External Since: Mar 04, 2009 Posts: 6

On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:53:31 +0100, David W. Hodgins
<dwhodgins.TakeThisOut@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:12:35 -0500, Jan van Gent
> <janvan{away}gent@zonnet.nl> wrote:
>
>> Since I started to use 9.64 this afternoon, I've experienced 5 crashes
>> without warning, Opera suddenly closed.
>> Ubuntu 8.10, (Linux 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC
>> 2009
>> i686 GNU/Linux)
>
> It may be useful to capture a crash log. See
> http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/825/
>
>> Wouldn't it be wise to include a `report bug` link in the help menu?
>
> Seems like a good idea to me. Anyway, bug reports are submitted at
> https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>

I used inspectr for WinXP, didn't know it existed for Linux. Will give it
a try. Is there a way to automate the process, or do I have to attach
Inspectr every time manually after I started up Opera.

I dunno if Inpectr is taking much system resources, but why isn't Inspectr
included in Opera by default, and make a debugmode for Opera to enable it,
when users experience crashes.
Info can then be send to Opera automatically without the need to use the
bug-wizard.

@Tim, i updated from 9.63. In 9.63 I had quite a lot of stalls, when
opening new pages with F2, which did Opera freeze with CPU 100% at the
dialogue. Haven't seen that in 9.64 yet.

Anyway today seems better then yesterday.

Jan
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Rijk van Geijtenbeek · External Since: Jun 18, 2006 Posts: 20

On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:56:04 +0100, Jan van Gent <janvan{away}gent@zonnet.nl> wrote:

...

> I used inspectr for WinXP, didn't know it existed for Linux. Will give
> it a try. Is there a way to automate the process, or do I have to attach
> Inspectr every time manually after I started up Opera.
>
> I dunno if Inpectr is taking much system resources, but why isn't
> Inspectr included in Opera by default, and make a debugmode for Opera to
> enable it, when users experience crashes.
> Info can then be send to Opera automatically without the need to use the
> bug-wizard.

This is being worked on for Opera 10. The latest snapshot includes IIXII in the Windows build, but not yet an upload mechanism.

> @Tim, i updated from 9.63. In 9.63 I had quite a lot of stalls, when
> opening new pages with F2, which did Opera freeze with CPU 100% at the
> dialogue. Haven't seen that in 9.64 yet.
>
> Anyway today seems better then yesterday.
>
> Jan

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Jan van Gent · External Since: Mar 04, 2009 Posts: 6

On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:27:00 +0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek
<rijk DeleteThis @opera.removethiz.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:56:04 +0100, Jan van Gent
> <janvan{away}gent@zonnet.nl> wrote:
>
> ..
>
>> I used inspectr for WinXP, didn't know it existed for Linux. Will give
>> it a try. Is there a way to automate the process, or do I have to
>> attach Inspectr every time manually after I started up Opera.
>>
>> I dunno if Inpectr is taking much system resources, but why isn't
>> Inspectr included in Opera by default, and make a debugmode for Opera
>> to enable it, when users experience crashes.
>> Info can then be send to Opera automatically without the need to use
>> the bug-wizard.
>
> This is being worked on for Opera 10. The latest snapshot includes IIXII
> in the Windows build, but not yet an upload mechanism.
>
>> @Tim, i updated from 9.63. In 9.63 I had quite a lot of stalls, when
>> opening new pages with F2, which did Opera freeze with CPU 100% at the
>> dialogue. Haven't seen that in 9.64 yet.
>>
>> Anyway today seems better then yesterday.
>>
>> Jan
>
>
>

Another problem. I tried to embed a `open in Opera 10` link in my custom
menu.
I couldn't achieve it.
I have downloaded a Opera 10 targz, unpacked it renamed to
Opera_10. I can start opera 10 with entering the directory and call the sh
script called Opera.
But I can't couldn't get it working from another location, I got a wrapper
error
`The Opera binary is not located at "usr/lib/opera/10.00/opera".
Please modify the wrapper script at "opera_10/opera".`

So i tried to start the binary in opera_10/usr/lib/opera/10.00 which
immediately converted and ruined my existing mail directory for 9.64.
So I had to had to reimport all mail by the wizard (I couldn't think of
another way.), lost all my filters etc. Not really nice.

Why isn't there a dialogue in Beta's to warn for irreversible mail
converting.
I didn't expect the tarball 10 beta to use my existing mail directory for
9.64

In the end the solution was simple. I edited the sh script in Opera_10
directory and insert a line at the top `cd /home/user/opera_10/` Now i
could start Opera Beta from every location.

This was the second time a Opera beta ruined my existing mail. First time
was by installing a deb version.
I would like a dialogue and cancel escape route.

Thx Jan,

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