Opensuse 11.1 drags

Van Chocstraw · External Since: Jan 08, 2009 Posts: 34

uname -a
2.6.27.29-0.1-pae #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 i686 athlon i386
GNU/Linux

On this system, 1.3ghz athlon, 2+gig ram Opensuse drags. Boots up ok
until gnome starts, then drags. Gnome Icons take forever to appear. Then
Firefox drags. Scrolling is slow and jerky if it moves. I'm not running
any unnecessary servers. W2K pro and WinME run fast on this system. Why
is Suse slow? Can't be just pae.

Mark Draheim · External Since: Jul 28, 2009 Posts: 3

Van Chocstraw wrote:

> uname -a
> 2.6.27.29-0.1-pae #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 i686 athlon i386
> GNU/Linux
>
> On this system, 1.3ghz athlon, 2+gig ram Opensuse drags. Boots up ok
> until gnome starts, then drags. Gnome Icons take forever to appear.
> Then Firefox drags. Scrolling is slow and jerky if it moves. I'm not
> running any unnecessary servers. W2K pro and WinME run fast on this
> system. Why is Suse slow? Can't be just pae.

my guess: either an indexer running (the disk led is continously on)
or desktop effects on a slow video chipset

check top in a terminal, its probably that beagle thingy indexing, or
your X server is running on 99% cpu

cheers

Mark

DenverD · External Since: Jul 26, 2009 Posts: 19

i agree with Mark..kill the beagle and turn off desktop effects..

if that makes it like it should be, then get more horsepower or leave
those things off..

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Paul J Gans · External Since: Jun 03, 2004 Posts: 399

Mark Draheim <rickcafe.casablanca DeleteThis @gmx.net> wrote:
>Van Chocstraw wrote:

>> uname -a
>> 2.6.27.29-0.1-pae #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 i686 athlon i386
>> GNU/Linux
>>
>> On this system, 1.3ghz athlon, 2+gig ram Opensuse drags. Boots up ok
>> until gnome starts, then drags. Gnome Icons take forever to appear.
>> Then Firefox drags. Scrolling is slow and jerky if it moves. I'm not
>> running any unnecessary servers. W2K pro and WinME run fast on this
>> system. Why is Suse slow? Can't be just pae.

>my guess: either an indexer running (the disk led is continously on)
>or desktop effects on a slow video chipset

>check top in a terminal, its probably that beagle thingy indexing, or
>your X server is running on 99% cpu

Is beagle running?

Beyond that I run 11.1 on three machines and it is fine. But
I run KDE not Gnome. One of those machines is a web server.

Can you run "top" to see what is hogging your CPU time?

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Paul J Gans · External Since: Jun 03, 2004 Posts: 399

DenverD <spam.trap.DeleteThis@somewhere.dk> wrote:
>i agree with Mark..kill the beagle and turn off desktop effects..

>if that makes it like it should be, then get more horsepower or leave
>those things off..

If that fixes it, just don't run beagle. I now kill it during
install by removing it from the list of programs to be loaded.

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Darklight · External Since: Sep 19, 2004 Posts: 71

Paul J Gans wrote:

> Mark Draheim <rickcafe.casablanca.TakeThisOut@gmx.net> wrote:
>>Van Chocstraw wrote:
>
>>> uname -a
>>> 2.6.27.29-0.1-pae #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 i686 athlon i386
>>> GNU/Linux
>>>
>>> On this system, 1.3ghz athlon, 2+gig ram Opensuse drags. Boots up ok
>>> until gnome starts, then drags. Gnome Icons take forever to appear.
>>> Then Firefox drags. Scrolling is slow and jerky if it moves. I'm not
>>> running any unnecessary servers. W2K pro and WinME run fast on this
>>> system. Why is Suse slow? Can't be just pae.
>
>>my guess: either an indexer running (the disk led is continously on)
>>or desktop effects on a slow video chipset
>
>>check top in a terminal, its probably that beagle thingy indexing, or
>>your X server is running on 99% cpu
>
> Is beagle running?
>
> Beyond that I run 11.1 on three machines and it is fine. But
> I run KDE not Gnome. One of those machines is a web server.
>
> Can you run "top" to see what is hogging your CPU time?
>
try taking out 1 gig of ram and remove the pae kernel that kernel is for
machines with 4 gig or more of ram remove every thing to do with beagle.

i run 11.1 on my laptop it's 6 years old 2.4Ghz intel cpu 1 gig of ram and
have compiz running. it's not fast but it's good enough.

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Van Chocstraw · External Since: Jan 08, 2009 Posts: 34

Mark Draheim wrote:
> Van Chocstraw wrote:
>
>> uname -a
>> 2.6.27.29-0.1-pae #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 i686 athlon i386
>> GNU/Linux
>>
>> On this system, 1.3ghz athlon, 2+gig ram Opensuse drags. Boots up ok
>> until gnome starts, then drags. Gnome Icons take forever to appear.
>> Then Firefox drags. Scrolling is slow and jerky if it moves. I'm not
>> running any unnecessary servers. W2K pro and WinME run fast on this
>> system. Why is Suse slow? Can't be just pae.
>
> my guess: either an indexer running (the disk led is continously on)
> or desktop effects on a slow video chipset
>
> check top in a terminal, its probably that beagle thingy indexing, or
> your X server is running on 99% cpu
>
> cheers
>
> Mark
>
>
>
I uninstalled beagle and firefox seems to run a little better. Gnome
still seems to drag on start up taking a long time between the task bar
and putting the desktop icons up. I thought gnome had less overhead than
KDE.

David Bolt · External Since: Feb 14, 2006 Posts: 526

On Friday 09 Oct 2009 08:47, Darklight played with alphabet spaghetti
and left this residue on the plate:

> try taking out 1 gig of ram and remove the pae kernel that kernel is for
> machines with 4 gig or more of ram

It's not just for machines with 4GB+ of RAM. The PAE kernel also
enables DEP, data execution prevention[0], which is supposed to reduce
the chances of a buffer overflow being exploited. This kernel appears
to be installed on any system where the processor/chipset supports
either PAE or DEP.

> remove every thing to do with beagle.

Good advice.

> i run 11.1 on my laptop it's 6 years old 2.4Ghz intel cpu 1 gig of ram and
> have compiz running. it's not fast but it's good enough.

I run 11.2m8 on my 6yo laptop. It has 1.25GiB RAM and is a Sempron
2800+ running at 1.6GHz and, as with yours, it's still usable even
when running KDE4.

[0] Quite Windows-centric, but this gives the details:

<URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Execution_Prevention>

Regards,
David Bolt

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houghi · External Since: Apr 25, 2004 Posts: 3249

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David Bolt · External Since: Feb 14, 2006 Posts: 526

On Friday 09 Oct 2009 18:42, houghi played with alphabet spaghetti and
left this residue on the plate:

> David Bolt wrote:
>> I run 11.2m8 on my 6yo laptop. It has 1.25GiB RAM and is a Sempron
>> 2800+ running at 1.6GHz and, as with yours, it's still usable even
>
> OK.
>
>> when running KDE4.
>
> Now I know you are lying. Wink

It's not really that bad, and I did see the smiley. Due to the age of
the graphics chipset/laptop, it's not able to handle compositing using
OpenGL as the copmositing type. Swapping to XRender works, although I
do have to check the "Disable functionality checks" checkbox. After
doing that it is quite usable but, it's not a speed-demon and there's
no way I'd even consider turning on all the eye-candy it could support.

I know it would be much faster with a lighter-weight desktop, but I
prefer KDE and I've fiddled with the settings a bit and now KDE4 does
look and feel very much like KDE3 to me. Still some niggles, but
they're nothing major.

Regards,
David Bolt

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houghi · External Since: Apr 25, 2004 Posts: 3249

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Vahis · External Since: May 19, 2007 Posts: 79

On 2009-10-11, houghi <houghi.DeleteThis@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
> David Bolt wrote:
>> On Friday 09 Oct 2009 18:42, houghi played with alphabet spaghetti and
>> left this residue on the plate:
>>
>>> David Bolt wrote:
>>>> I run 11.2m8 on my 6yo laptop. It has 1.25GiB RAM and is a Sempron
>>>> 2800+ running at 1.6GHz and, as with yours, it's still usable even
>>>
>>> OK.
>>>
>>>> when running KDE4.
>>>
>>> Now I know you are lying. Wink

>>
>> It's not really that bad, and I did see the smiley. <snip>
>
> See, that is what I mean. With KDE you are surprised that you actually
> see the smiley. With any other (well except for GNOME) everybody would
> asume that you would see the smiley and thuse there would be no need to
> mention it specifically. Razz

>
> (For those using KDE and GNOME, there was a smiley after the last line.)

Then I must have something wrong here (KDE 4.3).
Here the smiley appears _on_ the last line, not _after_.

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nepo · External Since: Jan 31, 2009 Posts: 4

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:24:55 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:

> Mark Draheim wrote:
>> Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>
>>> uname -a
>>> 2.6.27.29-0.1-pae #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 i686 athlon i386
>>> GNU/Linux
>>>
>>> On this system, 1.3ghz athlon, 2+gig ram Opensuse drags. Boots up ok
>>> until gnome starts, then drags. Gnome Icons take forever to appear.
>>> Then Firefox drags. Scrolling is slow and jerky if it moves. I'm not
>>> running any unnecessary servers. W2K pro and WinME run fast on this
>>> system. Why is Suse slow? Can't be just pae.
>>
>> my guess: either an indexer running (the disk led is continously on) or
>> desktop effects on a slow video chipset
>>
>> check top in a terminal, its probably that beagle thingy indexing, or
>> your X server is running on 99% cpu
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
> I uninstalled beagle and firefox seems to run a little better. Gnome
> still seems to drag on start up taking a long time between the task bar
> and putting the desktop icons up. I thought gnome had less overhead than
> KDE.

uname -a

Linux localhost 2.6.27.29-0.1-pae #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 i686
athlon i386 GNU/Linux

1.8 Ghz athlon, 2 GB RAM, no beagle or compiz mine also boots up ok until
gnome starts then drags. Total time to seeing the desktop icons is 1
minute, 20 seconds.

My solution is to turn on the pc, then go make my morning coffee. Smile

Taki · External Since: Nov 12, 2006 Posts: 23

nepo wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:24:55 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:
>
>> Mark Draheim wrote:
>>> Van Chocstraw wrote:
[...]
>>> check top in a terminal, its probably that beagle thingy indexing, or
>>> your X server is running on 99% cpu
[...]
>> I uninstalled beagle and firefox seems to run a little better. Gnome
>> still seems to drag on start up taking a long time between the task bar
>> and putting the desktop icons up. I thought gnome had less overhead than
>> KDE.
[...]
> 1.8 Ghz athlon, 2 GB RAM, no beagle or compiz mine also boots up ok until
> gnome starts then drags. Total time to seeing the desktop icons is 1
> minute, 20 seconds.
>
> My solution is to turn on the pc, then go make my morning coffee. Smile

There's one more to check: strigi/Nepomuk. This is a "lightweight and
fast desktop search engine".

Keep 'libstrigi0'. This library's functions may be used by an
application, so you may not be able get rid of it easily.

But you can safely delete and forbid forever 'strigi', the program.

PS Apparently, there's a saint Nepomuk (or Strigi, I forget) famous
among East European people.

nepo · External Since: Jan 31, 2009 Posts: 4

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:02:41 +0000, Taki wrote:

> nepo wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:24:55 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>
>>> Mark Draheim wrote:
>>>> Van Chocstraw wrote:
> [...]
>>>> check top in a terminal, its probably that beagle thingy indexing, or
>>>> your X server is running on 99% cpu
> [...]
>>> I uninstalled beagle and firefox seems to run a little better. Gnome
>>> still seems to drag on start up taking a long time between the task
>>> bar and putting the desktop icons up. I thought gnome had less
>>> overhead than KDE.
> [...]
>> 1.8 Ghz athlon, 2 GB RAM, no beagle or compiz mine also boots up ok
>> until gnome starts then drags. Total time to seeing the desktop icons
>> is 1 minute, 20 seconds.
>>
>> My solution is to turn on the pc, then go make my morning coffee. Smile

>
> There's one more to check: strigi/Nepomuk. This is a "lightweight and
> fast desktop search engine".
>
> Keep 'libstrigi0'. This library's functions may be used by an
> application, so you may not be able get rid of it easily.
>
> But you can safely delete and forbid forever 'strigi', the program.
>
> PS Apparently, there's a saint Nepomuk (or Strigi, I forget) famous
> among East European people.

Removed strigi and have no discernible difference, but thanks for the
suggestion. It's not really a problem for me.