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Gregory Shearman External

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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *hate* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: comp>os>linux>advocacy, others (more info?) |
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Mike wrote:
> But correct. No one is using it even though you can get it for free.
Sigh!
That's why the internet is weighed down by spamming winbots.
There's no end to human stupidity.
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Regards,
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Mike External

Since: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 83
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *love* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: comp>os>ms-windows>advocacy, others (more info?) |
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"Gregory Shearman" <ZekeGregory.TakeThisOut@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> That's why the internet is weighed down by spamming winbots.
Sure it is. Source?
> There's no end to human stupidity.
Of course there is. The fact that Linux is going nowhere proves that there
is a limit to human stupidity. Very few people are dumb enough to try to
use it.
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Linonut External

Since: Mar 31, 2006 Posts: 3492
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *hate* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: comp>os>linux>advocacy (more info?) |
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After takin' a swig o' grog, Gregory Shearman belched out this bit o' wisdom:
> Mike wrote:
>
>> But correct. No one is using it even though you can get it for free.
>
> Sigh!
> That's why the internet is weighed down by spamming winbots.
> There's no end to human stupidity.
Mike's not stupid. At least, no more stupid than any other one-liner
one-track response troll.
He just wants to see how far he can string you along.
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Mike External

Since: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 83
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *love* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: comp>os>ms-windows>advocacy, others (more info?) |
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"William Poaster" <wp DeleteThis @suseoss101.eu> wrote in message
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> This message was posted on Usenet, NOT JLAforums, & on Fri, 22 Sep 2006
> 09:13:19 -0400, Mike wrote:
>
>> "Gregory Shearman" <ZekeGregory DeleteThis @netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:IcPQg.13757$b6.158617@nasal.pacific.net.au...
>>>
>>> That's why the internet is weighed down by spamming winbots.
>>
>> Sure it is. Source?
>>
>>> There's no end to human stupidity.
>>
>> Of course there is.
>
> You've just proved there isn't.
Yes, I did, because no one is using Linux!
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Mike External

Since: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 83
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *love* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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"William Poaster" <wp.DeleteThis@suseoss101.eu> wrote in message
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> Linux is not a desktop OS for people
You got that right!
Mike |
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Mike External

Since: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 83
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *love* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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"Linonut" <linonut.DeleteThis@bone.com> wrote in message
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> I think Mikey is laughing now.
Yes, laughing at the Linux Loonies!
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Mike External

Since: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 83
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *love* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill DeleteThis @sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in message
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>> Wow - Linux has one user! Stop the presses!
>
> Two.
Still nothing.
> Windows Vista. Because it's time to refresh your hardware. Trust us.
Linux. Because even though we can't even *give* it away, it's *really*
great. Trust us.
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Mike External

Since: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 83
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *love* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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"Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason DeleteThis @ncoldns.com> wrote in message
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> "The last few Top500 Supercomputer Site lists left little doubt that Linux
> is the operating system of choice for these bleeding edge systems, but the
> latest list highlights the popularity of Linux in supercomputing and cites
> it as the OS of choice for 78% of the world's fastest machines. 391 of the
> systems rely on Linux of one flavor or another -- far more than Unix
> (yesterday's supercomputing king), Mac OS X, Solaris, or any others.
> Microsoft Windows didn't even turn up on the list."
Wow - that's 391 computers! Look out everyone, Linux is taking over!
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Oliver Wong External

Since: Apr 27, 2006 Posts: 1398
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *hate* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: comp>os>linux>advocacy (more info?) |
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"Linonut" <linonut.RemoveThis@bone.com> wrote in message
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> After takin' a swig o' grog, The Ghost In The Machine belched out this bit
> o' wisdom:
>
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Linonut
>> <linonut.RemoveThis@bone.com>
>> wrote
>> on Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:50:44 -0500
>> <ReadnY-zcLe5Zo_YnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d.RemoveThis@comcast.com>:
>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, The Ghost In The Machine belched out this
>>> bit o' wisdom:
>>>
>>>> Correct, to some extent. Linux has few users, although
>>>> the reasons as to the dearth are many.
>>>
>>> Few users? Half the people I work with use it.
>>
>> [1] OK, how many do you work with?
>
> About 12. My point should be obvious. If half the professional people
> I know use it, it is probably true that a lot of professional people all
> over the world (even in this backwater country, the U.S.) use it.
I agree with your conclusion (and your premise), but I don't think your
argument is sound. In other words, I agree that "it is probably true that a
lot of professional people all over the world use Linux", but I don't agree
that the fact that "half the professional people Linonut knows uses it" is
an indication of that.
Also, the words "many" and "few" are vague enough that I could agree
with both of them at the same time. That is, if 10'000 people use Linux;
10'000 is "many". But it's "few" in comparison to how many people use
Windows, for example.
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Linonut External

Since: Mar 31, 2006 Posts: 3492
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *hate* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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After takin' a swig o' grog, Oliver Wong belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>>> Few users? Half the people I work with use it.
>>>
>>> [1] OK, how many do you work with?
>>
>> About 12. My point should be obvious. If half the professional people
>> I know use it, it is probably true that a lot of professional people all
>> over the world (even in this backwater country, the U.S.) use it.
>
> I agree with your conclusion (and your premise), but I don't think your
> argument is sound. In other words, I agree that "it is probably true that a
> lot of professional people all over the world use Linux", but I don't agree
> that the fact that "half the professional people Linonut knows uses it" is
> an indication of that.
I'm assuming I'm an average professional dude, and that others
experience is typical.
> Also, the words "many" and "few" are vague enough that I could agree
> with both of them at the same time. That is, if 10'000 people use Linux;
> 10'000 is "many". But it's "few" in comparison to how many people use
> Windows, for example.
In other words, half the Windows users I know in my group also use
Linux. In other groups, it may be more like 10%.
These numbers are much greater than just a few years ago, when it was
said that 3% of people used it, and I knew only one other Linux user in
my professional group.
If that indicates there are only a "few" Linux users, I am quite happy.
Especially since I live in a somewhat technologically backward area of
the US <grin>
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The Ghost In The Machine External

Since: Aug 04, 2005 Posts: 3878
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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Mike
<no DeleteThis @where.man>
wrote
on Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:29:14 -0400
<12h8vunm4m9i04b DeleteThis @news.supernews.com>:
> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason DeleteThis @ncoldns.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.09.23.00.18.06.431281@ncoldns.com...
>>
>> You really are stupid, aren't you? "20 people is 'few'". That's 20
>> people at one place. Not 20 in total. Of course, this concept is
>> obviously beyond you, or you wouldn't have responded as you did.
>
> No, the point is that few poeple use Linux. Even if *everyone* you knew
> used it, it still wouldn't amount to anything. Anecdotes <> facts.
>
> Mike
>
He does have a point. 20/100M = 0.0002% desktops.
Personally, I for one would think the number of Linux
users is a bit more than that. If nothing else,
Munich has a fair number of desktop boxen.
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Mike External

Since: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 83
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:00 am Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *love* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill.TakeThisOut@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in message
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> He does have a point. 20/100M = 0.0002% desktops.
>
> Personally, I for one would think the number of Linux
> users is a bit more than that. If nothing else,
> Munich has a fair number of desktop boxen.
Being generous and giving Linux 1% desktop share, and going with 500 million
PCs in use worldwide (very conservative), gives 5 million Linux desktop
users.
Almost certainly high, but at least in the ballpark. Certainly moreso than
someone's absurd guesstimate of 35 million upthread.
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Linonut External

Since: Mar 31, 2006 Posts: 3492
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *hate* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: comp>os>linux>advocacy (more info?) |
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After takin' a swig o' grog, Mike belched out this bit o' wisdom:
> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <kbjarnason.DeleteThis@ncoldns.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.09.23.00.18.06.431281@ncoldns.com...
>>
>> You really are stupid, aren't you? "20 people is 'few'". That's 20
>> people at one place. Not 20 in total. Of course, this concept is
>> obviously beyond you, or you wouldn't have responded as you did.
>
> No, the point is that few poeple use Linux. Even if *everyone* you knew
> used it, it still wouldn't amount to anything. Anecdotes <> facts.
Not anecdotes. Sampling. Trends.
Of course, from me alone, it is not enough. That's why there is google
and usenet.
Seek, and you shall find.
But I have the feeling you are not a seeker.
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Linonut External

Since: Mar 31, 2006 Posts: 3492
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *love* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: comp>os>ms-windows>advocacy, others (more info?) |
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After takin' a swig o' grog, Mike belched out this bit o' wisdom:
> "Linonut" <linonut RemoveThis @bone.com> wrote in message
> news:Go6dnbIGkq8TtonYnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> I think Mikey is laughing now.
>
> Yes, laughing at the Linux Loonies!
Unfortunately, you're coming across as quite loony yourself.
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Mike External

Since: Nov 04, 2006 Posts: 43
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *love* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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In article <hJSdnV7XYp4__YjYnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d.DeleteThis@comcast.com>,
Linonut <linonut.DeleteThis@bone.com> wrote:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Mike belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
> > "Linonut" <linonut.DeleteThis@bone.com> wrote in message
> > news:Go6dnbIGkq8TtonYnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> I think Mikey is laughing now.
> >
> > Yes, laughing at the Linux Loonies!
>
> Unfortunately, you're coming across as quite loony yourself.
Such a devastating comeback from someone who calls himself "Linonut"!
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro External

Since: Oct 29, 2004 Posts: 548
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In message <12h95u2gtf8jqa5 DeleteThis @news.supernews.com>, Mike wrote:
> "The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill DeleteThis @sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in
> message news:l6eeu3-03i.ln1@sirius.tg00suus7038.net...
>> He does have a point. 20/100M = 0.0002% desktops.
>>
>> Personally, I for one would think the number of Linux
>> users is a bit more than that. If nothing else,
>> Munich has a fair number of desktop boxen.
>
> Being generous and giving Linux 1% desktop share, and going with 500
> million PCs in use worldwide (very conservative), gives 5 million Linux
> desktop users.
>
> Almost certainly high, but at least in the ballpark.
For Ubuntu alone, maybe not too far off
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue13>. But for Linux as
a whole, it would have to be much higher, because not everyone is running
Ubuntu <http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5816278551.html>. |
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Mike External

Since: Nov 04, 2006 Posts: 43
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *hate* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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In article <ef2dvn$ll6$6@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo.DeleteThis@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
> In message <12h95u2gtf8jqa5.DeleteThis@news.supernews.com>, Mike wrote:
>
> > "The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill.DeleteThis@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in
> > message news:l6eeu3-03i.ln1@sirius.tg00suus7038.net...
> >> He does have a point. 20/100M = 0.0002% desktops.
> >>
> >> Personally, I for one would think the number of Linux
> >> users is a bit more than that. If nothing else,
> >> Munich has a fair number of desktop boxen.
> >
> > Being generous and giving Linux 1% desktop share, and going with 500
> > million PCs in use worldwide (very conservative), gives 5 million Linux
> > desktop users.
> >
> > Almost certainly high, but at least in the ballpark.
>
> For Ubuntu alone, maybe not too far off
> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue13>. But for Linux as
> a whole, it would have to be much higher, because not everyone is running
> Ubuntu <http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT5816278551.html>.
No one is running it. There are no more than 6 million or so Linux
desktop users in total. If there were more, they would be showing up
in all of the stats.
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro External

Since: Oct 29, 2004 Posts: 548
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In message <12h8v3onok1fp47 DeleteThis @news.supernews.com>, Mike wrote:
> "The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill DeleteThis @sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in
> message news:g68eu3-udh.ln1@sirius.tg00suus7038.net...
>>> Wow - Linux has one user! Stop the presses!
>>
>> Two.
>
> Still nothing.
>
>> Windows Vista. Because it's time to refresh your hardware. Trust us.
>
> Linux. Because even though we can't even *give* it away, it's *really*
> great. Trust us.
You don't have to trust us, or anybody else. Because you can look at the
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Jim External

Since: Apr 21, 2005 Posts: 996
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *love* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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Linonut came up with this when he headbutted the keyboard a moment ago in
comp.os.linux.advocacy:
@sig:
> "Spock, you're nothing but a damn computer!"
> "Why, thank you, Doctor!"
"Devil In The Dark"?
--
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but they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
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-*- Registered Linux user #426308 -*- http://counter.li.org
-*- We now return you to your regularly scheduled broadcast.
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meet *one* on *Earth*!
-*- For sale: one (1) Fender Phantom air guitar. £500 ONO
-*- For sale: one (1) Italian WWII bolt-action rifle. .303cal, never fired,
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AZ Nomad External

Since: May 26, 2005 Posts: 237
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: (OS) The thing I *love* most about Microsoft Windows. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?) |
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:21:10 -0400, Mike <no RemoveThis @where.man> wrote:
>In article <hJSdnV7XYp4__YjYnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d RemoveThis @comcast.com>,
> Linonut <linonut RemoveThis @bone.com> wrote:
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Mike belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>> > "Linonut" <linonut RemoveThis @bone.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Go6dnbIGkq8TtonYnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> I think Mikey is laughing now.
>> >
>> > Yes, laughing at the Linux Loonies!
>>
>> Unfortunately, you're coming across as quite loony yourself.
>Such a devastating comeback from someone who calls himself "Linonut"!
Do you keep such company that you've found excellent results with the
"no I'm not but you are" comeback?
Most people find that it doesn't work once they're no more than about ten years
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