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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: NPD statistics are lies: Micoshaft lost 32% of global netbook market
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NPD statistics are lies: Micoshaft lost 32% of global netbook market
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The figures speak for themselves. NPD lied about global market
share of Linux netbooks and those figures have been used
to con UK, EU and US netbook consumers, journalists and
retailers into believing micoshaft on netbooks is doing well.

Its nothing of the sort.

Netbooks can only be run properly with Linux and 32% of global
sales is with netbooks running Linux.

Netbooks are fast when running Linux, and when they run
20 or 30 applications simultaneously, they don't creek
under the strain because its all built with Linux.

Micoshaft netbooks creak with 2 or 3 applications running
on netbooks. Its hopeless drivel to say otherwise.
Its pointless to torture users with micoshaft products
on netbooks with the slow grind. Let them all have Linux
and choice of Linux netbooks on the shelves as they do elsewhere
in the world - the NPD stats were lies
and purchasing departments in retail stores need to re-evaluate
the micoshaft sales lies and start stocking up on Linux
or loose yet more countless millions of Linux sales
and gloss over the disappointing Christmas sales to investors.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: NPD statistics are lies: Micoshaft lost 32% of global netbook [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Nov 7, 11:56 am, John Fuhrer <fuhrer_spam_no_....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:45:28 GMT, 7 wrote:
> > NPD statistics are lies: Micoshaft lost 32% of global netbook market
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > The figures speak for themselves. NPD lied about global market
> > share of Linux netbooks and those figures have been used
> > to con UK, EU and US netbook consumers, journalists and
> > retailers into believing micoshaft on netbooks is doing well.
>
> So where are your figures?

How about this:
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5114054156.html

> Here is what Lenovo thinks of Linux netbooks:
>
> Lenovo rubbishes Linux but confirms looking at Chrome OS
>
> November 4, 2009 at 1:43 pm
>
> Lenovo confirms looking at Chrome OS Lenovo has put the boot into Linux
> netbooks, saying that the introduction of Windows 7 makes the gap even
> wider than before. Howard Locker, director of Lenovo’s new technology
> department, also confirmed that they are looking into alternatives
> including Google’s Chrome OS.

"Google’s" ??? Googleys? These strange spellings are all over your
post. You need to check how your copy-and-paste turns out.

> Lenovo launched Linux netbooks targeting the education market back in
> October 2008, but canned them following poor sales. “Our S9 and S10 model
> netbooks had Linux loads, but they didn’t do well so we stopped selling
> them. People didn’t realize what they bought, and they returned them
> because they expected Windows and thought they were broken,” Locker said.

But they did show Levono how large the low end market is. Do you
think Microsoft can work at that end of the spectrum? Can they work
in a market where the cost of the OS is twice the cost of the
hardware?

> The lack of support for Apple’s iTunes was one of the reasons that annoyed
> Linux users, Lenovo claim. However, the company is currently evaluating
> Chrome OS in netbooks, although it says that it is only at the early
> stages. “We’re watching it but it’s too early to tell because they don’t
> even have alpha code to test,” Locker said.
>
> Windows 7 has made the gap between Linux offerings even wider claims
> Locker. He cited a number of improvements included in Windows 7 including a
> 10-second boot time, one second resume and lower power consumption. He went
> on to say that Windows 7 “has really hurt the alternatives because it’s a
> lot better, so there’s a huge gap [for Linux environments] to jump now.”
>
> Via EETimes.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: NPD statistics are lies: Micoshaft lost 32% of global netbook market [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:45:28 GMT, 7 wrote:

> NPD statistics are lies: Micoshaft lost 32% of global netbook market
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The figures speak for themselves. NPD lied about global market
> share of Linux netbooks and those figures have been used
> to con UK, EU and US netbook consumers, journalists and
> retailers into believing micoshaft on netbooks is doing well.

So where are your figures?

Here is what Lenovo thinks of Linux netbooks:

Lenovo rubbishes Linux but confirms looking at Chrome OS

November 4, 2009 at 1:43 pm

Lenovo confirms looking at Chrome OS Lenovo has put the boot into Linux
netbooks, saying that the introduction of Windows 7 makes the gap even
wider than before. Howard Locker, director of Lenovo’s new technology
department, also confirmed that they are looking into alternatives
including Google’s Chrome OS.

Lenovo launched Linux netbooks targeting the education market back in
October 2008, but canned them following poor sales. “Our S9 and S10 model
netbooks had Linux loads, but they didn’t do well so we stopped selling
them. People didn’t realize what they bought, and they returned them
because they expected Windows and thought they were broken,” Locker said.

The lack of support for Apple’s iTunes was one of the reasons that annoyed
Linux users, Lenovo claim. However, the company is currently evaluating
Chrome OS in netbooks, although it says that it is only at the early
stages. “We’re watching it but it’s too early to tell because they don’t
even have alpha code to test,” Locker said.

Windows 7 has made the gap between Linux offerings even wider claims
Locker. He cited a number of improvements included in Windows 7 including a
10-second boot time, one second resume and lower power consumption. He went
on to say that Windows 7 “has really hurt the alternatives because it’s a
lot better, so there’s a huge gap [for Linux environments] to jump now.”

Via EETimes.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: NPD statistics are lies: Micoshaft lost 32% of global netbook [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Nov 7, 2:35 pm, bbgruff <bbgr....TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Vaughn Bode wrote:
> >> So where are your figures?
>
> > How about this:
> >http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5114054156.html
>
> So either somebody's figures are wrong, or somebody is telling porkies?
>
> Also, I don't know if it's significant or not, but I note in all this that
> Microsoft figures refer to what MS call "small notebooks", rather
> than "Netbooks".

Despite the size of the market for smaller computers, MS, the stores,
and the current manufacturers all want to sell up. More profit that
way. Microsoft has the biggest advertising budget so they are on the
point with trying to distract from smaller netbooks.

> > But they did show Levono how large the low end market is.  Do you
> > think Microsoft can work at that end of the spectrum?  Can they work
> > in a market where the cost of the OS is twice the cost of the
> > hardware?
>
> Important to define "cost" there.
> There is the "cost" (of a licence) to the OEM, but there is also the "cost"
> of a licence to Microsoft.  Microsoft works on a *very* high margin, so the
> cost to MS is quite low, while the cost to the OEM can be quite high.

Yes. Can Microsoft ever be happy with smaller margins?

> In short, MS *can* work in that market (low price of OS on Netbooks), but it
> has a drastic effect on the bottom line?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: NPD statistics are lies: Micoshaft lost 32% of global netbook market [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Micoshaft Appil asstroturfing fraudster with a big girlie butt
pounding the sock John Fuhrer wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft
Appil Department of Marketing:


>> NPD statistics are lies: Micoshaft lost 32% of global netbook market
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> The figures speak for themselves. NPD lied about global market
>> share of Linux netbooks and those figures have been used
>> to con UK, EU and US netbook consumers, journalists and
>> retailers into believing micoshaft on netbooks is doing well.
>
> So where are your figures?


Reality is escaping you fast isn't it?

Are you as a windummy/appil retard disputing the global sales figures
win for Linux in a professional asstroturfer capacity working
for appil/windummy software companies for money?

It would be a big LOL to know.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: NPD statistics are lies: Micoshaft lost 32% of global netbook market [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Vaughn Bode wrote:

>> So where are your figures?
>
> How about this:
> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5114054156.html

So either somebody's figures are wrong, or somebody is telling porkies?

Also, I don't know if it's significant or not, but I note in all this that
Microsoft figures refer to what MS call "small notebooks", rather
than "Netbooks".

> But they did show Levono how large the low end market is. Do you
> think Microsoft can work at that end of the spectrum? Can they work
> in a market where the cost of the OS is twice the cost of the
> hardware?

Important to define "cost" there.
There is the "cost" (of a licence) to the OEM, but there is also the "cost"
of a licence to Microsoft. Microsoft works on a *very* high margin, so the
cost to MS is quite low, while the cost to the OEM can be quite high.

In short, MS *can* work in that market (low price of OS on Netbooks), but it
has a drastic effect on the bottom line?
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