Memorex MMP8585C mp3 player

Dave Kelly · External Since: Aug 03, 2009 Posts: 7

I have purchased the above MP3 player, my OS recognizes the device but
it will not mount so I can download music. I have posted information
on the 'ubuntuforms' but have not received any replies. Would you
please follow the link below and see if you can see what I am doing
wrong?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1229415&highlight=MMP8585C

Any help or suggestions you have will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Dave

David W. Hodgins · External Since: Dec 04, 2005 Posts: 277

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:02:07 -0400, Dave Kelly <daveekelly1.DeleteThis@embarqmail.com> wrote:

> I have purchased the above MP3 player, my OS recognizes the device but
> it will not mount so I can download music. I have posted information
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1229415&highlight=MMP8585C

With the device plugged in, try running (as root) "modprobe usb-storage"
and then check /var/log/syslog, to see if it allocates a device for it.
If that works, then it's just a matter of setting up a udev rule to do
that automatically.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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Dave Kelly · External Since: Aug 03, 2009 Posts: 7

David, thanks for the reply.

I was up til 4 this morning tracing throught the information you gave
me. I had no idea all that existed. I already have more questions but
let me work through them and get back to you in a couple days.

Thanks again.
Dave

Dave Kelly · External Since: Aug 03, 2009 Posts: 7

After digging out details from the information you provided, Wound up
with a 300 line post to ask a simple queston, ( I can post it if
needed.)
I found the device everywhere. Several applications reconize it but
none will link to it.

After reading the manual for udev, I found nothing intuitive, no
examples. Some paths were provided to configuration files. So I found
this in both '/ect/udev/rules.d/libmtp7.rules and /ect/udev/
libmtp.conf.

# Dunlop MP3 player 1GB / EGOMAN MD223AFD
ATTRS{idVendor}=="10d6", ATTRS{idProduct}=="2200", SYMLINK+="libmtp-
%k", MODE="660", GROUP="audio"

It had the same product ID.
SO I modified it and pasted it to the bottom of both files and
rebooted.

# Memorex MP3 player 2GB MMP8585C
ATTRS{idVendor}=="10d6", ATTRS{idProduct}=="2300", SYMLINK+="libmtp-
%k", MODE="660", GROUP="audio"

Amarok shows it a a usb drive. Nautilus doesn't recognize it at all.
No desktop icon. How / where do I link to it?

Does a call to 'udev' put the config information elsewhere that I did
not find?

Thanks for your time and sharing you knowledge.
Dave

David W. Hodgins · External Since: Dec 04, 2005 Posts: 277

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:14:14 -0400, Dave Kelly <daveekelly1 RemoveThis @embarqmail.com> wrote:

> # Memorex MP3 player 2GB MMP8585C
> ATTRS{idVendor}=="10d6", ATTRS{idProduct}=="2300", SYMLINK+="libmtp-
> %k", MODE="660", GROUP="audio"
> Amarok shows it a a usb drive. Nautilus doesn't recognize it at all.
> No desktop icon. How / where do I link to it?

Did running "modprobe usb-storage" create a disk device for the for
the player?

It's actually hal, rather then udev, that has to figure out what type
of device it is, so that udev will then handle it properly. See
http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.os.linux/msg/a605a13588ef6fa7?

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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Dave Kelly · External Since: Aug 03, 2009 Posts: 7

> Did running "modprobe usb-storage" create a disk device for the for
> the player?

Boot

dave@gadabout:~$ dmesg |tail
[ 71.656436] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.0 to 64
[ 71.656517] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20060119 on minor 0
[ 72.358086] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[ 72.358337] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[ 72.359558] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[ 73.441278] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[ 73.664831] vloopback: Video4linux loopback driver v1.1.5
[ 73.664890] vloopback: Loopback 0 registered, input: video1,
output: video0
[ 74.157442] NET: Registered protocol family 17
[ 83.155011] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
dave@gadabout:~$

Plug MP3 player into USB port

dave@gadabout:~$ dmesg |tail
[ 72.358086] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[ 72.358337] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[ 72.359558] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[ 73.441278] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[ 73.664831] vloopback: Video4linux loopback driver v1.1.5
[ 73.664890] vloopback: Loopback 0 registered, input: video1,
output: video0
[ 74.157442] NET: Registered protocol family 17
[ 83.155011] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[ 228.825226] usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and
address 3
[ 228.959975] usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

dave@gadabout:~$

modprobe usg-storage
dave@gadabout:~$ dmesg |tail
[ 73.664831] vloopback: Video4linux loopback driver v1.1.5
[ 73.664890] vloopback: Loopback 0 registered, input: video1,
output: video0
[ 74.157442] NET: Registered protocol family 17
[ 83.155011] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[ 228.825226] usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and
address 3
[ 228.959975] usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 360.072675] usbcore: registered new interface driver libusual
[ 360.103028] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[ 360.103072] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
[ 360.103075] USB Mass Storage support registered.
dave@gadabout:~$

David W. Hodgins · External Since: Dec 04, 2005 Posts: 277

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:47:27 -0400, Dave Kelly <daveekelly1 RemoveThis @embarqmail.com> wrote:

> modprobe usg-storage
> dave@gadabout:~$ dmesg |tail
> [ 360.103028] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
> [ 360.103072] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
> [ 360.103075] USB Mass Storage support registered.

If the device was being recognized by usb-storage, the would be more
like ...

usb 5-6: USB disconnect, address 4
usb 5-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5
usb 5-6: New USB device found, idVendor=090c, idProduct=1000
usb 5-6: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
usb 5-6: Product: USB DISK
usb 5-6: Manufacturer: SMI Corporation
usb 5-6: SerialNumber: AA04012700007384
usb 5-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
scsi3 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
usb-storage: device found at 5
usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access Flash Drive SM_USB20 1100 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
usb-storage: device scan complete
sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] 506880 512-byte logical blocks: (259 MB/247 MiB)
sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 43 00 00 00
sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
sdc: sdc1
sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk

My guess is that the device is using MTP mode. Check to see if it
has a setting for MSC mode.

For an explanation of the modes, see
http://www.musicedmagic.com/computers/how-to-download-music-to-an-mp3-...yer-3.h

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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Dave Kelly · External Since: Aug 03, 2009 Posts: 7

Sorry for getting back. You gave information and I have been digging.
Will get back this weekend.
Dave

Dave Kelly · External Since: Aug 03, 2009 Posts: 7

On Aug 7, 10:33 pm, "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodg... RemoveThis @nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:
>
> My guess is that the device is using MTP mode. Check to see if it
> has a setting for MSC mode.
I could find nothing that could answer you request.
Heres what I got:
'dmesg' after plugging the media player in showed this

[148931.358114] usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 16
[149099.603986] usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and
address 23
[149099.749762] usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

dir -l1 /dev
crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 3 2009-08-07 17:49 usbdev2.1_ep81
crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 8 2009-08-09 22:15 usbdev3.16_ep00
crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 9 2009-08-09 22:15 usbdev3.16_ep81
crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 4 2009-08-07 17:49 usbdev3.1_ep00
crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 5 2009-08-07 17:49 usbdev3.1_ep81
crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 6 2009-08-07 17:49 usbdev4.1_ep00
crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 7 2009-08-07 17:49 usbdev4.1_ep81
Notice the address 23 above and the 23 here. Are they related?
crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 10 2009-08-10 01:37 usbdev4.23_ep00
crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 11 2009-08-10 01:37 usbdev4.23_ep01
crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 12 2009-08-10 01:37 usbdev4.23_ep82
crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 13 2009-08-10 01:37 usbdev4.23_ep83

dave@gadabout:~$ sudo lsusb -vv
[sudo] password for dave:

Bus 004 Device 023: ID 10d6:2300 Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 64
idVendor 0x10d6 Actions Semiconductor Co., Ltd
idProduct 0x2300
bcdDevice 1.00
iManufacturer 1 .
iProduct 2 Media Player
iSerial 3 9E5D7F0655923E41840B20F1AD9CC3AF
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 39
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 238 MSFT100�
bmAttributes 0x80
(Bus Powered)
MaxPower 300mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 3
bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
bInterfaceSubClass 0
bInterfaceProtocol 0
iInterface 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0400 1x 1024 bytes
bInterval 4
Device Qualifier (for other device speed):
bLength 10
bDescriptorType 6
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 64
bNumConfigurations 1
Device Status: 0x0001
Self Powered

Nautilus does not show the media player device. At one time it did but
I can not duplicate it. Is there enough information to write a udev
rule?
Thanks
Dave

David W. Hodgins · External Since: Dec 04, 2005 Posts: 277

On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:10:20 -0400, Dave Kelly <daveekelly1 RemoveThis @embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Nautilus does not show the media player device. At one time it did but
> I can not duplicate it. Is there enough information to write a udev
> rule?

Nope. One step at a time. Have to get it working manually, before
bothering with setting up hal/udev rules, to automate it.

I found the user manual at
wget http://www.memorex.com/manuals/MMP8585_manual.pdf

There doesn't seem to be an option to set the player to use MSC mode.
With a player that only supports MTP mode, it will not be seen as
a usb disk drive, so it will not be visible to nautilus, but may
work with software that handles mtp mode, such as amarok.

There is a userspace filesystem module, to allow an MTP mode player
to emulate a disk drive. See if your distribution has the mtpfs
package. If if does, see
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32817
for a procedure to try and mount the device, as a disk drive.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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Dave Kelly · External Since: Aug 03, 2009 Posts: 7

Just to update you.
I have the mp3 player mounted and an icon on the desktop screen.
Downloaded some music but can not find them on the player. I read
elsewhere about the player putting them in a hidden directory
Have not gone looking for that yet

Thanks
Later
Dae

David W. Hodgins · External Since: Dec 04, 2005 Posts: 277

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:50:41 -0400, Dave Kelly <daveekelly1 DeleteThis @embarqmail.com> wrote:

> I have the mp3 player mounted and an icon on the desktop screen.

I take that installing mtpfs worked.

> Downloaded some music but can not find them on the player. I read
> elsewhere about the player putting them in a hidden directory

Many players will not handle subdirectories. Put all of the music
in the same directory you already have other music in, that you can
see on the player.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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