Mandriva: 2gb RAM recommended

DFS · External Since: Feb 25, 2011 Posts: 781

http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/

How special.

Foster · External Since: Nov 16, 2011 Posts: 452

On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:20 -0400, DFS wrote:

> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/
>
>
> How special.

I thought Mandriva went out of business?

DFS · External Since: Feb 25, 2011 Posts: 781

On 5/18/2012 9:08 AM, Foster wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:20 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/
>>
>>
>> How special.
>
> I thought Mandriva went out of business?

A couple times I believe. They always seem to find new deluded
investors ^^^ suckers who want to lose a lot of money.

Foster · External Since: Nov 16, 2011 Posts: 452

On Fri, 18 May 2012 09:17:35 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 5/18/2012 9:08 AM, Foster wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:20 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/
>>>
>>>
>>> How special.
>>
>> I thought Mandriva went out of business?
>
>
> A couple times I believe. They always seem to find new deluded
> investors ^^^ suckers who want to lose a lot of money.

Some people never learn Sad

MelissA · External Since: May 13, 2012 Posts: 10

On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:20 -0400
DFS wrote:

> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/
>
>
> How special.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-requirements

Wink

))

On my ubuntu system, without anything open, gnome-shell + OS +
daemons, takes about 500 meg.

When I open browser (lot of tabs Wink

, music player , chat client, mail
client it takes from 1gig ti 1.5 gig depending on what's going on ...

TomB · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 782

On 2012-05-18, the following emerged from the brain of MelissA:
> On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:20 -0400
> DFS wrote:
>
>> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/
>>
>>
>> How special.
>
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-requirements
>
> Wink

))
>
> On my ubuntu system, without anything open, gnome-shell + OS +
> daemons, takes about 500 meg.
>
> When I open browser (lot of tabs Wink

, music player , chat client,
> mail client it takes from 1gig ti 1.5 gig depending on what's going
> on ...

On my freshly booted Debian desktop:

mordor:~ % free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 3839 435 3404 0 15 255
-/+ buffers/cache: 163 3675
Swap: 1999 0 1999

163 MB used. Not bad Wink

Chris Ahlstrom · External Since: Oct 20, 2010 Posts: 796

After swilling some grog, MelissA belched this bit o' wisdom:

> On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:20 -0400
> DFS wrote:
>
>> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/
>>
>>
>> How special.
>
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-requirements

2 Gb for 64-bit Windows 7? IT here says you need 4 Gb.

> On my ubuntu system, without anything open, gnome-shell + OS +
> daemons, takes about 500 meg.
>
> When I open browser (lot of tabs Wink

, music player , chat client, mail
> client it takes from 1gig ti 1.5 gig depending on what's going on ...

Almost 8 Gb in use here.

Feed your Linux system! Feed it!

--
Thats Owl for you! Next thing he'll be listing his vi key presses that
he used to navigate the data. *chuckle*. I'm SO impressed. he'll be
cat'ing it through grep or/and sed next to gather relevant lines.
-- "Hadron"

MelissA · External Since: May 13, 2012 Posts: 10

On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:36:17 +0000 (UTC)
TomB wrote:

> On 2012-05-18, the following emerged from the brain of MelissA:
> > On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:20 -0400
> > DFS wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/
> >>
> >>
> >> How special.
> >
> > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-requirements
> >
> > Wink

))
> >
> > On my ubuntu system, without anything open, gnome-shell + OS +
> > daemons, takes about 500 meg.
> >
> > When I open browser (lot of tabs Wink

, music player , chat client,
> > mail client it takes from 1gig ti 1.5 gig depending on what's going
> > on ...
>
> On my freshly booted Debian desktop:
>
> mordor:~ % free -m
> total used free shared buffers
> cached Mem: 3839 435 3404 0
> 15 255 -/+ buffers/cache: 163 3675
> Swap: 1999 0 1999
>
> 163 MB used. Not bad Wink

Not bad

What window manager?

TomB · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 782

On 2012-05-18, the following emerged from the brain of MelissA:
> On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:36:17 +0000 (UTC)
> TomB wrote:
>> On 2012-05-18, the following emerged from the brain of MelissA:
>> > On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:20 -0400
>> > DFS wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> How special.
>> >
>> > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-requirements
>> >
>> > Wink

))
>> >
>> > On my ubuntu system, without anything open, gnome-shell + OS +
>> > daemons, takes about 500 meg.
>> >
>> > When I open browser (lot of tabs Wink

, music player , chat client,
>> > mail client it takes from 1gig ti 1.5 gig depending on what's
>> > going on ...
>>
>> On my freshly booted Debian desktop:
>>
>> mordor:~ % free -m
>> total used free shared buffers
>> cached Mem: 3839 435 3404 0
>> 15 255 -/+ buffers/cache: 163 3675
>> Swap: 1999 0 1999
>>
>> 163 MB used. Not bad Wink

>
> Not bad Wink

> What window manager?

Awesome Wink

MelissA · External Since: May 13, 2012 Posts: 10

On Fri, 18 May 2012 16:44:30 -0400
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> After swilling some grog, MelissA belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
> > On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:20 -0400
> > DFS wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/
> >>
> >>
> >> How special.
> >
> > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-requirements
>
> 2 Gb for 64-bit Windows 7? IT here says you need 4 Gb.

I think that's minimum Wink

>
> > On my ubuntu system, without anything open, gnome-shell + OS +
> > daemons, takes about 500 meg.
> >
> > When I open browser (lot of tabs Wink

, music player , chat client,
> > mail client it takes from 1gig ti 1.5 gig depending on what's going
> > on ...
>
> Almost 8 Gb in use here.
>
> Feed your Linux system! Feed it!

Well, I have only 4 gigs of RAM Wink

>

TomB · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 782

On 2012-05-18, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
> After swilling some grog, MelissA belched this bit o' wisdom:

8<

>> On my ubuntu system, without anything open, gnome-shell + OS +
>> daemons, takes about 500 meg.
>>
>> When I open browser (lot of tabs Wink

, music player , chat client,
>> mail client it takes from 1gig ti 1.5 gig depending on what's going
>> on ...
>
> Almost 8 Gb in use here.
>
> Feed your Linux system! Feed it!

Counting cached stuff as well, I presume?

Rockinghorse Winner · External Since: May 18, 2012 Posts: 4

MelissA writes:

>On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:20 -0400
>DFS wrote:

>> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/
>>
>>
>> How special.

>http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-requirements

> Wink

))

>On my ubuntu system, without anything open, gnome-shell + OS +
>daemons, takes about 500 meg.

>When I open browser (lot of tabs Wink

, music player , chat client, mail
>client it takes from 1gig ti 1.5 gig depending on what's going on ...

On fluxbox, it's about 250 MB, to start, and have rarely seen it go over 600
MB. I currently have 1.5 GB, and the swap is rarely used.

Terry

--
"For I would ride with you upon the wind, |/
Run on the top of the dishevelled tide, |/ Gentoo Linux
And dance upon the mountains like a flame." |/
-Yeats |/

Rockinghorse Winner · External Since: May 18, 2012 Posts: 4

TomB writes:

>On 2012-05-18, the following emerged from the brain of MelissA:
>> On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:36:17 +0000 (UTC)
>> TomB wrote:
>>> On 2012-05-18, the following emerged from the brain of MelissA:
>>> > On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:20 -0400
>>> > DFS wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> How special.
>>> >
>>> > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-requirements
>>> >
>>> > Wink

))
>>> >
>>> > On my ubuntu system, without anything open, gnome-shell + OS +
>>> > daemons, takes about 500 meg.
>>> >
>>> > When I open browser (lot of tabs Wink

, music player , chat client,
>>> > mail client it takes from 1gig ti 1.5 gig depending on what's
>>> > going on ...
>>>
>>> On my freshly booted Debian desktop:
>>>
>>> mordor:~ % free -m
>>> total used free shared buffers
>>> cached Mem: 3839 435 3404 0
>>> 15 255 -/+ buffers/cache: 163 3675
>>> Swap: 1999 0 1999
>>>
>>> 163 MB used. Not bad Wink

>>
>> Not bad Wink

>> What window manager?

>Awesome Wink

_that's_ a small footprint...

--
"For I would ride with you upon the wind, |/
Run on the top of the dishevelled tide, |/ Gentoo Linux
And dance upon the mountains like a flame." |/
-Yeats |/

Gregory Shearman · External Since: Jun 30, 2004 Posts: 727

On Fri, 18 May 2012 22:51:38 +0200, MelissA wrote:

> On Fri, 18 May 2012 16:44:30 -0400 Chris Ahlstrom
> wrote:
>
>> After swilling some grog, MelissA belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>> > On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:21:20 -0400 DFS wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/specs/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> How special.
>> >
>> > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-
requirements
>>
>> 2 Gb for 64-bit Windows 7? IT here says you need 4 Gb.
>
> I think that's minimum Wink

>
>
>> > On my ubuntu system, without anything open, gnome-shell + OS +
>> > daemons, takes about 500 meg.
>> >
>> > When I open browser (lot of tabs Wink

, music player , chat client,
>> > mail client it takes from 1gig ti 1.5 gig depending on what's going
>> > on ...
>>
>> Almost 8 Gb in use here.
>>
>> Feed your Linux system! Feed it!
>
> Well, I have only 4 gigs of RAM Wink

>

RAM is very cheap. I just increased my Intel QuadCore laptop from 4GB to
8GB and it cost me 30 dollars Australian.

Just do it. Everything works faster, especially Gentoo Updates! The
aggressive file caching of the Linux Kernel really speeds things up when
you've got the RAM to spare.

--
Linux From Palawan

TomB · External Since: Feb 08, 2009 Posts: 782

On 2012-05-19, the following emerged from the brain of Rockinghorse Winner:
> TomB writes:

8<

>>>> 163 MB used. Not bad Wink

>>>
>>> Not bad Wink

>>> What window manager?
>
>>Awesome Wink

>
> _that's_ a small footprint...

I like awesome a lot just because of that. Very minimal, and does just
that what a window manager should do: manage windows. And configured
properly it is one of the few window managers that actually *does*
manage windows; I rarely have to reposition a windows - it is all done
for me.

Tiling rocks!

Chris Ahlstrom · External Since: Oct 20, 2010 Posts: 796

After swilling some grog, TomB belched this bit o' wisdom:

> On 2012-05-18, the following emerged from the brain of Chris Ahlstrom:
>> After swilling some grog, MelissA belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
> 8<
>
>>> On my ubuntu system, without anything open, gnome-shell + OS +
>>> daemons, takes about 500 meg.
>>>
>>> When I open browser (lot of tabs Wink

, music player , chat client,
>>> mail client it takes from 1gig ti 1.5 gig depending on what's going
>>> on ...
>>
>> Almost 8 Gb in use here.
>>
>> Feed your Linux system! Feed it!
>
> Counting cached stuff as well, I presume?

Everything!

Why leave gigs of RAM unused? It's faster than disk I/O! (I know you
know that. Even Microsoft knows it, sort of.)

--
Actually yes I can. It seems you are generalising. I dont think all
Linux users are cheapskates. But there are Linux cheapskates : sorry if
this is not clear to you. There are hordes of people who posts here who
equate "free" (as in beer) with "good". Oh get a life. Linux cheapskates exist.
-- "Hadron Quark", 2006

Rockinghorse Winner · External Since: May 13, 2012 Posts: 8

* It may have been the liquor talking, but
TomB wrote:

> On 2012-05-19, the following emerged from the brain of Rockinghorse Winner:
>> TomB writes:
>
> 8<
>
>>>>> 163 MB used. Not bad Wink

>>>>
>>>> Not bad Wink

>>>> What window manager?
>>
>>>Awesome Wink

>>
>> _that's_ a small footprint...
>
> I like awesome a lot just because of that. Very minimal, and does just
> that what a window manager should do: manage windows. And configured
> properly it is one of the few window managers that actually *does*
> manage windows; I rarely have to reposition a windows - it is all done
> for me.
>
> Tiling rocks!

Awesome has tiling, does it?

Fluxbox has intelligent window placement. It doesn't have afaik 'tiling'
as a dedicated function, however.

Terry
--
"For I would ride with you upon the wind, |/
Run on the top of the dishevelled tide, |/ Gentoo Linux
And dance upon the mountains like a flame." |/
-Yeats |/

Foster · External Since: Nov 16, 2011 Posts: 452

On Sat, 19 May 2012 07:03:43 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> After swilling some grog, TomB belched this bit o' wisdom:

>>
>> Counting cached stuff as well, I presume?
>
> Everything!
>
> Why leave gigs of RAM unused? It's faster than disk I/O! (I know you
> know that. Even Microsoft knows it, sort of.)

Slurp!

Chris Ahlstrom · External Since: Oct 20, 2010 Posts: 796

After swilling some grog, Rockinghorse Winner belched this bit o' wisdom:

> * It may have been the liquor talking, but
> TomB wrote:
>
>> On 2012-05-19, the following emerged from the brain of Rockinghorse Winner:
>>> TomB writes:
>>
>> 8<
>>
>>>>>> 163 MB used. Not bad Wink

>>>>>
>>>>> Not bad Wink

>>>>> What window manager?
>>>
>>>>Awesome Wink

>>>
>>> _that's_ a small footprint...
>>
>> I like awesome a lot just because of that. Very minimal, and does just
>> that what a window manager should do: manage windows. And configured
>> properly it is one of the few window managers that actually *does*
>> manage windows; I rarely have to reposition a windows - it is all done
>> for me.
>>
>> Tiling rocks!
>
> Awesome has tiling, does it?
>
> Fluxbox has intelligent window placement. It doesn't have afaik 'tiling'
> as a dedicated function, however.

You can have fluxbox memorize the size, position, virtual screen
(workspace), the monitor (in a multi-monitor setup), stickiness, window
decorations, minimized/maximized state, fullscreen state, transparency,
shading status, and layer of each application that you like to run.

I don't know about other Linux desktop environments, but, for this kind
of configurability, Windows has nothing like it. (You may be able to
purchase third-party extensions that provide such capability. However,
I have found that stuff based on the crufty Windows console and
windowing systems suffers from being based on the crufty Windows console
and windowing systems.

--
Why not have an old-fashioned Christmas for your family this year? Just
picture the scene in your living room on Christmas morning as your children
open their old-fashioned presents.

Your 11-year-old son: "What the heck is this?"

You: "A spinning top! You spin it around, and then eventually it falls
down. What fun! Ha, ha!"

Son: "Is this a joke? Jason Thompson's parents got him a computer with
two disk drives and 128 kilobytes of random-access memory, and I get this
cretin TOP?"

Your 8-year-old daughter: "You think that's bad? Look at this."

You: "It's figgy pudding! What a treat!"

Daughter: "It looks like goat barf."
-- Dave Barry, "Simple, Homespun Gifts"

Rockinghorse Winner · External Since: May 13, 2012 Posts: 8

* It may have been the liquor talking, but
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> After swilling some grog, Rockinghorse Winner belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> * It may have been the liquor talking, but
>> TomB wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012-05-19, the following emerged from the brain of Rockinghorse Winner:
>>>> TomB writes:
>>>
>>> 8<
>>>
>>>>>>> 163 MB used. Not bad Wink

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not bad Wink

>>>>>> What window manager?
>>>>
>>>>>Awesome Wink

>>>>
>>>> _that's_ a small footprint...
>>>
>>> I like awesome a lot just because of that. Very minimal, and does just
>>> that what a window manager should do: manage windows. And configured
>>> properly it is one of the few window managers that actually *does*
>>> manage windows; I rarely have to reposition a windows - it is all done
>>> for me.
>>>
>>> Tiling rocks!
>>
>> Awesome has tiling, does it?
>>
>> Fluxbox has intelligent window placement. It doesn't have afaik 'tiling'
>> as a dedicated function, however.
>
> You can have fluxbox memorize the size, position, virtual screen
> (workspace), the monitor (in a multi-monitor setup), stickiness, window
> decorations, minimized/maximized state, fullscreen state, transparency,
> shading status, and layer of each application that you like to run.
>
> I don't know about other Linux desktop environments, but, for this kind
> of configurability, Windows has nothing like it. (You may be able to
> purchase third-party extensions that provide such capability. However,
> I have found that stuff based on the crufty Windows console and
> windowing systems suffers from being based on the crufty Windows console
> and windowing systems.
>
> --
> Why not have an old-fashioned Christmas for your family this year? Just
> picture the scene in your living room on Christmas morning as your children
> open their old-fashioned presents.
>
> Your 11-year-old son: "What the heck is this?"
>
> You: "A spinning top! You spin it around, and then eventually it falls
> down. What fun! Ha, ha!"
>
> Son: "Is this a joke? Jason Thompson's parents got him a computer with
> two disk drives and 128 kilobytes of random-access memory, and I get this
> cretin TOP?"
>
> Your 8-year-old daughter: "You think that's bad? Look at this."
>
> You: "It's figgy pudding! What a treat!"
>
> Daughter: "It looks like goat barf."
> -- Dave Barry, "Simple, Homespun Gifts"

No, there's no comparison to Windows - Fluxbox has it for dinner, as far as
configurability goes. I meant that in comparison with awesome, there's no
'tile' command in Fluxbox, that arranges the open windows in a tile
arrangement.

Terry
--
"For I would ride with you upon the wind, |/
Run on the top of the dishevelled tide, |/ Gentoo Linux
And dance upon the mountains like a flame." |/
-Yeats |/