Justlinux.ca

rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

~kurt <actinouranium.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> trolled:
> Michael Black <et472.RemoveThis@ncf.ca> wrote:

>> But the problem also rests with people who can't keep track of
>> such an important thing as you describe. If it was important to
>> you, you should have been keeping track of when it was going to
>> expire. I know

> rm was in between meds....

And how is this kind of thing helpful?

> Too funny seeing how agitated he is over it. You would think such
> an accomplished troll would be better at hiding this.

The fact that we are discussing it does not mean that we are
"agitated."

We think that it would have been just as gutless an act if he had
stolen your long-held domain simply because you forgot to renew it.

But that is an intellectual response, not an emotional reaction.

cordially, as always,

rm

Res · External Since: Jul 16, 2004 Posts: 89

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, rm.RemoveThis@LewPitcherIsGay.com wrote:

> What really happened, if you are truly interested, is that we were
> registered using dranyamlr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com but since we got so much spam
> at that address, we changed to dranyamlr.RemoveThis@gmale.com (or something
> like that) and we forgot to look for the CIRA renewal notice.
>
> The fact remains, Pitcher hijacked the domain we held for seven
> years just to annoy us. He has zero interest in actually using it.
> The classy thing for him to do is return it.
>

So you failed to notice no mail or no hits on whatever service you ran for
a full month (the 30 day hold period by registrar)? not likely.

> And that should go without saying...

it certainly does, you didnt give a rats ass about it until LP registered
it.

--
Res

"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!

Loki Harfagr · External Since: Feb 05, 2009 Posts: 24

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:35:43 +0000, rm did cat :

> Loki Harfagr <l0k1.DeleteThis@thedarkdesign.free.fr.invalid> trolled:
>> Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:48:21 -0500, Lew Pitcher did cat?:
>
>>> Please inform your correspondents that you no longer receive mail at
>>> these (or any other) justlinux.ca email addresses. I will continue to
>>> reject (550) emails to these or any other unauthorized justlinux.ca
>>> email addresses.
>
>> You may even prefer to put some action to reaction, just replace the
>> 550 reject with a plain 'let the sender bear the cub', e.g.: 471
>> abandoned mail domain, please contact mailmaster at
>> rm.DeleteThis@realtomargarino.ca
>
> The only people who would be sending mail to that address would be those
> too stupid

that's why the recipe was to put the wear on the loony sender,
it seems you're not fully back awaken from hibernation, I've
read you in the past on a better shape Wink

> to realize that we have had a dynamic IP for years.
>
> You guys do know that you need DNS servers setup to actually use the
> domain, right?

Yes, after all I should.

> And you do know that realtomargarino.ca has not been setup with DNS
> servers, right?

at least that was the case when I checked, so I was sure the recipe
wouldn't do any harm to other than the lost senders.

> Maybe some of you will learn something out of this after all...

Well, you know, "the small difference between you and me is
a little something you don't know yet" (can't remember the
original author, sorry) ;->

Loki Harfagr · External Since: Feb 05, 2009 Posts: 24

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:34:15 +0000, rm did cat :
....
> What really happened, if you are truly interested, is that we were
> registered using dranyamlr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com but since we got so much spam at
> that address, we changed to dranyamlr.RemoveThis@gmale.com (or something like that)
> and we forgot to look for the CIRA renewal notice.

It is now clearer. After all those years of howling you didn't
know who 'maynard' and 'dranyam' were, you finally believed in
your self deny. The moral is tautologic and logic's safe ,-)

rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

Res <res.RemoveThis@ausics.net> trolled:

> So you failed to notice no mail or no hits on whatever service you ran for
> a full month (the 30 day hold period by registrar)? not likely.

We weren't running any services with that domain during that 30 day
period.

> it certainly does, you didnt give a rats ass about it until LP registered
> it.

That's obvious. That's why we kept renewing it for seven years.

Are you burned out or just switched off?

less cordial than usual,

rm

rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

Loki Harfagr <l0k1 RemoveThis @thedarkdesign.free.fr.invalid> trolled:

> It is now clearer. After all those years of howling you didn't
> know who 'maynard' and 'dranyam' were, you finally believed in
> your self deny. The moral is tautologic and logic's safe ,-)

What does Manyard have to do with dranyamlr?

cordially, as always,

rm

Lew Pitcher · External Since: May 16, 2007 Posts: 54

On November 6, 2009 22:58, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Keith Keller
(kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us) wrote:

> On 2009-11-07, Michael Black <et472.DeleteThis@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>> If it's an issue, then the issue clearly lies with the registration
>> process. There shouldn't be such a short time between expiry and
>> when someone new can claim it.
>
> Thirty days isn't long enough? It should certainly be long enough for
> someone who were actually using the domain for something important to
> notice that the domain no longer functioned, even if they were so
> incompetent as to have lost or misdirected the numerous reminders sent
> out by the registrar as to the domain expiring.

I should point out that RM's lease on the name expired at the beginning of
that 30 day period. At that point (September 3), the registrar marked
justlinux.ca as SUSPended, and the justlinux.ca DNS entry was expunged. As
of Sept 3, justlinux.ca ceased to exist as a DNS-resolvable domain name.

The 30 day period gives the previous lessor an opportunity to change his
mind about giving up the domain name. Only RM could have put in a bid for
justlinux.ca during that time. But, the domain would still have been
unresolvable until /someone/ bid for it (either RM during the 30 day
window, or /anyone/ after that window).

So, to conclude,
RM abandoned his claim to justlinux.ca by
failing to have his registrar "autorenew" his registration,
ignoring the re-registration notices issued by both CIRA and his registrar,
and failing to register justlinux.ca during the 30 day suspension period

Any moral impacts of RM's lack of attention reside solely with RM.

And, that's the last I'll respond to /this/ thread.

PS: RM, you stay plonked.
--
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------

Lew Pitcher · External Since: May 16, 2007 Posts: 54

On November 7, 2009 11:35, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Lew Pitcher
(lpitcher@teksavvy.com) wrote:
[snip]
> And, that's the last I'll respond to /this/ thread.

OK, so I lied, a little.

FWIW, CIRA announces weekly all domain names that have not been renewed by
the end of the suspension period. This weeks list of 3663 names can be
found at http://ro.cira.ca/tbrlist_p?datet=2009/11/11

Perhaps RM would be interested in one of these names. I could make a few
suggestions, but...

--
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------

Lew Pitcher · External Since: May 16, 2007 Posts: 54

OK, so just /one/ more response. This is too good to pass up Smile

On November 7, 2009 05:08, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Loki Harfagr
(l0k1@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID) wrote:

> Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:35:43 +0000, rm did catÂ :
>> to realize that we have had a dynamic IP for years.
>>
>> You guys do know that you need DNS servers setup to actually use the
>> domain, right?

~ $ whois realtomargarino.ca
Domain name: realtomargarino.ca
Domain status: EXIST
Approval date: 2009/10/17
Renewal date: 2011/10/17
Updated date: 2009/10/17

Registrar:
Name: SIBERNAME INTERNET AND SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGIES INC.
Number: 108

Name servers:
ws1.sibername.com
ws2.sibername.com

% WHOIS look-up made at 2009-11-07 16:49:16 (GMT)
%
% Use of CIRA's WHOIS service is governed by the Terms of Use in its Legal
% Notice, available at http://www.cira.ca/legal-notice/?lang=en
%
% (c) 2007 Canadian Internet Registration Authority, (http://www.cira..ca/)

~ $ ping -c 3 realtomargarino.ca
PING realtomargarino.ca (64.247.58.248) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 64.247.58.248: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=66.1 ms
64 bytes from 64.247.58.248: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=66.2 ms
64 bytes from 64.247.58.248: icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=66.1 ms

--- realtomargarino.ca ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2000ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 66.123/66.191/66.254/0.216 ms
~ $

It appears that RM /has/ a DNS server, and doesn't know about it.
For that matter, http://realtomargarino.ca/ works as well; RM: If you didnt'
know, you have a webserver up.

--
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------

Loki Harfagr · External Since: Feb 05, 2009 Posts: 24

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:51:50 -0500, Lew Pitcher did cat :

> OK, so just /one/ more response. This is too good to pass up Smile

>
> On November 7, 2009 05:08, in alt.os.linux.slackware, Loki Harfagr
> (l0k1@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID) wrote:
>
>> Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:35:43 +0000, rm did cat :
>>> to realize that we have had a dynamic IP for years.
>>>
>>> You guys do know that you need DNS servers setup to actually use the
>>> domain, right?
>
> ~ $ whois realtomargarino.ca
> Domain name: realtomargarino.ca Domain status: EXIST
> Approval date: 2009/10/17
> Renewal date: 2011/10/17
> Updated date: 2009/10/17
>
> Registrar:
> Name: SIBERNAME INTERNET AND SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGIES
> INC. Number: 108
>
> Name servers:
> ws1.sibername.com
> ws2.sibername.com
>
> % WHOIS look-up made at 2009-11-07 16:49:16 (GMT) %
> % Use of CIRA's WHOIS service is governed by the Terms of Use in its
> Legal % Notice, available at http://www.cira.ca/legal-notice/?lang=en
> %
> % (c) 2007 Canadian Internet Registration Authority,
> (http://www.cira.ca/)
>
> ~ $ ping -c 3 realtomargarino.ca
> PING realtomargarino.ca (64.247.58.248) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes
> from 64.247.58.248: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=66.1 ms 64 bytes from
> 64.247.58.248: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=66.2 ms 64 bytes from
> 64.247.58.248: icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=66.1 ms
>
> --- realtomargarino.ca ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3
> received, 0% packet loss, time 2000ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev =
> 66.123/66.191/66.254/0.216 ms ~ $
>
> It appears that RM /has/ a DNS server, and doesn't know about it.

Yes, that's a pity, he's not half the noise he used to be, lithium
can be nasty when too deep and long...

> For
> that matter, http://realtomargarino.ca/ works as well; RM: If you didnt'
> know, you have a webserver up.

Yep, though I was only interested in the possible mail routing but
now's a change from last time I tried it (or its TTL was just outta tune
with the simple point where and when I did), the domain now has an MX setup:
-----------
$ dig realtomargarino.ca mx
....
;; ANSWER SECTION:
realtomargarino.ca. 14400 IN MX 10 mail.realtomargarino.ca.
-----------

which would make the fun with loonies recipe a double bind one.

Now, "the door once opened then shut" and this thread's over.

Res · External Since: Jul 16, 2004 Posts: 89

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, rm.RemoveThis@LewPitcherIsGay.com wrote:

> Res <res.RemoveThis@ausics.net> trolled:
>
>> So you failed to notice no mail or no hits on whatever service you ran for
>> a full month (the 30 day hold period by registrar)? not likely.
>
> We weren't running any services with that domain during that 30 day
> period.

In that case you were never running any services, not one that was relied
upon by anyone, so as usual you are just living up to your title as
deputy chief troll.

>
>> it certainly does, you didnt give a rats ass about it until LP registered
>> it.
>
> That's obvious. That's why we kept renewing it for seven years.

for what reason, cant be a web site if you wernt running it for a month,
cant be mail, if you wernt running for a month... cant be much of anything
if you wernt running it for a month.

--
Res

"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!

rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

Lew Pitcher <lpitcher RemoveThis @teksavvy.com> trolled:

> Any moral impacts of RM's lack of attention reside solely with RM.

You hijacked our domain name with the sole intention of annoying us
and you did so without checking as to whether there would be
consequences. You are not using the address now. You will never
use the address in the future. You are a petty, malicious and
boorish little man, revealed as such to all by the fact that you
wasted no time in alerting the Dan Cs of the world that you hijacked
the domain in a lame attempt to curry favour with them.

What kind of person would care what the Dan Cs of the world think?
Imagine if somebody died because of your attempt to curry favour
with Dan C?

> And, that's the last I'll respond to /this/ thread.

> PS: RM, you stay plonked.

Nice try. Put your hands over your ears and hum. Maybe that'll
work.

We weren't using it anyway so we really don't care. But that does
not change the fact that you did was quite reprehensible. A
reasonable and responsible person would have reminded us that we
hadn't renewed, and, if he truly wanted the domain, he would have
asked if we minded if he could have had it.

Your attempt to curry favour with Dan C could have had serious
ramifications to innocent persons. Somebody could have died. You
could have cost somebody a ton of dough and all for a nod of
approval from trash much like yourself.

cordially, as always,

rm

Michael Black · External Since: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 19

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Keith Keller wrote:

> On 2009-11-07, Michael Black <et472 RemoveThis @ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>> If it's an issue, then the issue clearly lies with the registration
>> process. There shouldn't be such a short time between expiry and
>> when someone new can claim it.
>
> Thirty days isn't long enough? It should certainly be long enough for
> someone who were actually using the domain for something important to
> notice that the domain no longer functioned, even if they were so
> incompetent as to have lost or misdirected the numerous reminders sent
> out by the registrar as to the domain expiring.
>
I don't know if it's long enough or not. Since I could point to a real
world example of someone losing their domain by a pouncer, I definitely
can see that it is important not to lose the domain name, when one is
actually using it.

But I also did say that one has to be pretty stupid to not keep track of
this sort of thing. My main point was that it sure wasn't Lew's place to
remind or warn someone before taking over the domain. If it's important,
the owner would be making sure contact information is up to date, and
would mark the calendar and do all kinds of things to remind themselves
to renew the domain name registration.

Michael

rm · External Since: Nov 07, 2009 Posts: 10

Lew Pitcher <lpitcher.RemoveThis@teksavvy.com> trolled:

[deletia]

Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop a 100 dollar bill. He seized
it, waved it in the old lady's face, and cried, "It's mine! Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" Then he phoned up Dan C and the two
celebrated his good fortune.

cordially, as always,

rm

rm · External Since: Nov 07, 2009 Posts: 10

Lew Pitcher <lpitcher DeleteThis @teksavvy.com> trolled:

[deletia]

Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!"

He then telephoned Dan C and the two celebrated his good fortune.

cordially, as always,

rm

rm · External Since: Nov 07, 2009 Posts: 10

Lew Pitcher <lpitcher.RemoveThis@teksavvy.com> trolled:

[deletia]

Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!"

He then telephoned Dan C and the two celebrated his good fortune.

cordially, as always,

rm

rm · External Since: Nov 07, 2009 Posts: 10

Loki Harfagr <l0k1 DeleteThis @thedarkdesign.free.fr.invalid> trolled:

[deletia]

Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!"

He then telephoned Dan C and the two celebrated his good fortune.

cordially, as always,

rm

rm · External Since: Nov 07, 2009 Posts: 10

Loki Harfagr <l0k1.DeleteThis@thedarkdesign.free.fr.invalid> trolled:

> Yep, though I was only interested in the possible mail routing but
> now's a change from last time I tried it (or its TTL was just outta tune
> with the simple point where and when I did), the domain now has an MX setup:

The registrar also gave us primary and secondary dns. That's nice,
but we didn't ask for them.

Nonetheless, the issue is whether justlinux.ca had dns. They
did not have them recently. And, it appears, they never will have
them again.

cordially, as always,

rm
--
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" He then telephoned Dan C and the two
celebrated his good fortune.

rm · External Since: Nov 07, 2009 Posts: 10

Joe <undisclosed.TakeThisOut@undisclosed.invalid> trolled:

> Man, you're truly a totally F**KED UP A**HOLE with no sense at all.
>
> You need psychiatric help FAST.

Whatever you say, Joe.

cordially, as always,

rm
--
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" He then telephoned Dan C and the two
celebrated his good fortune.

rm · External Since: Nov 07, 2009 Posts: 10

Res <res.RemoveThis@ausics.net> trolled:

> In that case you were never running any services, not one that was relied
> upon by anyone, so as usual you are just living up to your title as
> deputy chief troll.

And who would be Chief Troll? You?

> for what reason, cant be a web site if you wernt running it for a month,
> cant be mail, if you wernt running for a month... cant be much of anything
> if you wernt running it for a month.

It wasn't much of anything, not currently. But now that
Mr. Pitcher has it, it will never be used for anything.

cordially, as always,

rm
--
Lew Pitcher watched an old lady drop one hundred dollars, whereupon
he seized it, waved it in the old lady's face, crying "Finders
keepers, losers weepers!" He then telephoned Dan C and the two
celebrated his good fortune.