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Joe · External Since: Feb 22, 2007 Posts: 15

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In newsgroup alt.os.linux.slackware, Loki Harfagr wrote:

> Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:23:26 -0500, Joe did cat :
>
>> In newsgroup alt.os.linux.slackware, Loki Harfagr wrote:
>>
>>> Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:32:59 -0800, Keith Keller did cat :
>>>
>>>> That certainly implies that you must be Canadian,
>>> "Ich bin ein canadair!"
>>
>> canadair?
>>
>> canadian to german = Kanadierin, kanadisch, Kanadier
>
> oh yeah, but seems you just missed the pun Smile

<G> Indeed. I feel for it flat out. Wink

> A Canadair is a very useful and appreciated water bombardier plane
> very useful for forest fires, and the Canada is much appreciated
> in my country (.fr)

Yep. Made in Quebec. I agree that it's a very useful plane.

> and the mimicked expression from JFK was
> just as plain clumsy as the one I suggested, after all I prefer to
> be helped by a yellow orange plane than by a greasy sausage.
> Well, of course it is much less funny when dissected...

Got it <G> Keep on keeping on.

Cheers

Helmut Hullen · External Since: Mar 16, 2009 Posts: 13

Hallo, steveski,

Du meintest am 06.11.09:

>> after all I prefer to
>> be helped by a yellow orange plane than by a greasy sausage.
>> Well, of course it is much less funny when dissected...

> I didn't know that a Berliner had sausage in it. I thought it was a
> dessert pastry. Thanks - You learn something new everyday Smile

OMG!!!111

A "Berliner" is either a citizen of the town Berlin or a kind of
doughnut. The citizen may contain sausages. The doughnut doesn't.

I know - that's independent from the actual slackware version.

Viele Gruesse
Helmut

"Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

Keith Keller · External Since: Jun 21, 2006 Posts: 478

On 2009-11-06, Helmut Hullen <helmut.TakeThisOut@hullen.de> wrote:
>
> A "Berliner" is either a citizen of the town Berlin or a kind of
> doughnut. The citizen may contain sausages. The doughnut doesn't.

BTW, if it's in Wikipedia, it must be true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ich_bin_ein_Berliner#Jelly_doughnut_urban_legend

As to whether a Berliner contains sausages, I thought it was pretty much
a given that all German cuisine contains sausage. Doesn't German
lettuce contain sausage? I think even the air over Germany contains
sausages. Smile

--keith

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rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

Loki Harfagr <l0k1 DeleteThis @thedarkdesign.free.fr.invalid> trolled:
> Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:48:21 -0500, Lew Pitcher did cat?:

>> Please inform your correspondents that you no longer receive mail
>> at these (or any other) justlinux.ca email addresses. I will
>> continue to reject (550) emails to these or any other
>> unauthorized justlinux.ca email addresses.

> You may even prefer to put some action to reaction, just replace
> the 550 reject with a plain 'let the sender bear the cub', e.g.:
> 471 abandoned mail domain, please contact mailmaster at
> rm DeleteThis @realtomargarino.ca

The only people who would be sending mail to that address would be
those too stupid to realize that we have had a dynamic IP for years.

You guys do know that you need DNS servers setup to actually use the
domain, right?

And you do know that realtomargarino.ca has not been setup with DNS
servers, right?

Maybe some of you will learn something out of this after all...

cordially, as always,

rm

Res · External Since: Jul 16, 2004 Posts: 89

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009, Lew Pitcher wrote:

> deletethis DeleteThis @justlinux.ca,
> r... DeleteThis @justlinux.ca,
> r DeleteThis @justlinux.ca,
> rm.deletethis DeleteThis @justlinux.ca,
> rm.removethis DeleteThis @justlinux.ca, and

Never thought I'd see the day when I was defending low life scum like rm,
but...

All the ones with (delete|remove)this, r... etc - are spambot additions to
the usual rm/realto ones he actually used, he would not have created/used
them.. I see those all the time on this account but s'ing/rm/local_users/,
including mine, and I never use this account in personal corro (unless its
a quick reply to someone on usenet etc) only on some lists and usenet.

--
Res

"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!

rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

John K. Herreshoff <nope.RemoveThis@not.here> trolled:

> LOL! I've had him plonked for the longest time, so I did not know what was
> going on with him.

And you still don't know, sweetie, not if you are using Pitcher as a
source, because he doesn't have a clue.

cordially, as always,

rm

rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

Loki Harfagr <l0k1.TakeThisOut@thedarkdesign.free.fr.invalid> trolled:
>
> neither did I and I supposed that was the same with you, I guess
> that I just tried to be funny after a too heavily loaded double
> Monday today and I miserably failed at it Very Happy

)

Now, now. Don't suddenly get stupid on us.

Come right out and ask Mr. Pitcher to post all the email he receives
at that address.

We defy _anyone_ to show us one use of justlinux.ca that we have
made, outside of posting to this ng, in 5 years.

Anyone. Show us how much irritation you have caused us. Show us
even one thing that you have done that inconveniences us in any way.
Any way at all. Everybody would love to see it.

Justify the financial investment you made in justlinux.ca.

Show Dan C how clever you are.

> True, AAMOF some loonies inside my domains deserved that treat
> (and of course it accelerated the solving of that "mysterious mail
> routing problem" they had) but to do it for an external concern is
> a bit harsh, at least.

Try using gmail, or hotmail. These services are commensurate with
your abilities.

>> In other words, I don't intend to shoot either myself or RM in
>> the foot.

You don't even know how to pull the trigger, sweetie.

The _only_ reason we are "complaining" now is because we are bored
and we just wanted to generate some bandwidth...

And we succeeded. You could never do that on your own, could you?
That's because we have a fan base and none of the rest of you do.
We are not going to check the stats, but we're willing to bet that
traffic has increased by 100% or more since we made our latest
return to this ng.

cordially, as always,

rm

rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet.TakeThisOut@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> trolled:

> That certainly implies that you must be Canadian, but if that's
> the only statement about it it's possible there's some loophole
> (e.g., going through a Canadian registrar that doesn't check
> residency/citizenship). (Not that I'm looking to register a .ca
> domain, just curious.)

He just lives a few miles from us, although he didn't realize this
when he started this nonsense.

cordially, as always,

rm

rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

Lew Pitcher <lpitcher.TakeThisOut@teksavvy.com> trolled:

> Since he started his personal attacks on me, I've plonked him as
> well. I only knew he posted something because Dan C, Joe, SL/AC,
> and notbob all responded to him.

And do you honestly think anyone believes that?

cordially, as always,

rm

rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

Lew Pitcher <lpitcher RemoveThis @teksavvy.com> trolled:

[deletia]

Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
result.

No question that we would be liable, legally. But you, and you
alone, would be morally responsible for that death. How would you
like to explain to the family of the person who died that your
little "prank" cost their loved ones their life?

Or say that we were supporting a webpage putting together a petition
to save the life of somebody on death row? And let's just say that
because of your hijacking, we lost the site, and an innocent person
was executed, again, because of your little prank?

You see, you just don't know what you are doing and when you
hijacked the name justlinux.ca you and you alone could be morally
responsible for all kinds of unfortunate happenings to all kinds of
innocent people.

True, we would be legally liable. But you and you alone would be
morally responsible.

You are a real class act. And since you can't adress this
criticism, you'll pretend that you haven't read it. But everyone,
at least those smart enough to have our respect, will know how
pathetic you truly are.

cordially, as always,

rm

Res · External Since: Jul 16, 2004 Posts: 89

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Lew Pitcher wrote:

> Very true. It's not /my/ job to remind RM of his obligations.
>
> Actually, it is/was his registrar's job (i.e. Tucows.com). CIRA sends a
> reminder email to the registered holder at their registered email address
> (I surmise that RM changed his email address without informing CIRA), and
> sends a copy of the reminder to the registrar. The registrar /usually/
> reminds the registrant via email.

Most likley the case, or he has a filter that trashed it as spam, either
way, it is not your problem, the domain was free for anyone, would he be
here bitching like a little girl if teh daomin was snapped up by say, Shaw
or perhaps Linus himself? I think we all know the answer to that one don't
we Smile

>> BTW moron, the registrars have a cooling off hold period on expired
>> domains, so if it expired today, he couldnt register it for, IIRC, at
>> least 30 days, used to be (or still might be), 60 days.
>
> CIRA's "hold" period is 30 days. RM's lease on justlinux.ca expired on
> September 3, and I bid on it on October 11. As I said, I waited a

More than adequate wait time I'd say.

--
Res

"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!

Res · External Since: Jul 16, 2004 Posts: 89

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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, rm.TakeThisOut@LewPitcherIsGay.com wrote:

> Lew Pitcher <lpitcher.TakeThisOut@teksavvy.com> trolled:
>
> [deletia]
>
> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
> clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
> hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
> result.
>
> No question that we would be liable, legally. But you, and you
> alone, would be morally responsible for that death. How would you
> like to explain to the family of the person who died that your
> little "prank" cost their loved ones their life?
>
> Or say that we were supporting a webpage putting together a petition
> to save the life of somebody on death row? And let's just say that
> because of your hijacking, we lost the site, and an innocent person
> was executed, again, because of your little prank?
>
> You see, you just don't know what you are doing and when you
> hijacked the name justlinux.ca you and you alone could be morally
> responsible for all kinds of unfortunate happenings to all kinds of
> innocent people.
>
> True, we would be legally liable. But you and you alone would be
> morally responsible.
>
> You are a real class act. And since you can't adress this
> criticism, you'll pretend that you haven't read it. But everyone,
> at least those smart enough to have our respect, will know how
> pathetic you truly are.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm
>

--
Res

"What does Windows have that Linux doesn't?" - One hell of a lot of bugs!

Michael Black · External Since: Jan 26, 2009 Posts: 19

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, rm.TakeThisOut@LewPitcherIsGay.com wrote:

> Lew Pitcher <lpitcher.TakeThisOut@teksavvy.com> trolled:
>
> [deletia]
>
> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
> clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
> hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
> result.
>
If it's an issue, then the issue clearly lies with the registration
process. There shouldn't be such a short time between expiry and
when someone new can claim it.

But the problem also rests with people who can't keep track of such
an important thing as you describe. If it was important to you, you
should have been keeping track of when it was going to expire. I know
someone who lost their domain and it was pounced on immediately, but she
was pretty careless to not be paying attention. That is the sort of
carpetbagger we are now seeing, the clueless coming to the internet,
"knowing" all that they need to know, but then they can't even keep track
of their domain registration? She was running a business, and stupidly
named her business after the domain name, so when she lost it, there went
her business name. How stupid can you be to let that happen?

Michael

Keith Keller · External Since: Jun 21, 2006 Posts: 478

On 2009-11-07, Michael Black <et472.DeleteThis@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>
> If it's an issue, then the issue clearly lies with the registration
> process. There shouldn't be such a short time between expiry and
> when someone new can claim it.

Thirty days isn't long enough? It should certainly be long enough for
someone who were actually using the domain for something important to
notice that the domain no longer functioned, even if they were so
incompetent as to have lost or misdirected the numerous reminders sent
out by the registrar as to the domain expiring.

--keith

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Old Man · External Since: Aug 11, 2009 Posts: 4

rm RemoveThis @LewPitcherIsGay.com wrote:

> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
> clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
> hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
> result.

Let's just say the moon is made of cheese, and you fitted your dog with a
rocket pack and pressure suit, and he ate the moon. And let's just say
tsunamis resulted and whole coastal populations were wiped out.

>
> No question that we would be liable, legally. But you, and you
> alone, would be morally responsible for that death. How would you
> like to explain to the family of the person who died that your
> little "prank" cost their loved ones their life?

Yeah, how will people take it when you say, "Sorry about the tidal
disruption, but see, my dog ate the moon."

>
> Or say that we were supporting a webpage putting together a petition
> to save the life of somebody on death row? And let's just say that
> because of your hijacking, we lost the site, and an innocent person
> was executed, again, because of your little prank?

Oh, you Canadians and your death row. Always executing some poor innocent
slob.

Wait, wait, I know - Let's say rm has "a real presence on the internet" and
it slipped his mind or something.

<snip>
--
Old Man

rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

Michael Black <et472.TakeThisOut@ncf.ca> trolled:
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, rm.TakeThisOut@LewPitcherIsGay.com wrote:
>> Lew Pitcher <lpitcher.TakeThisOut@teksavvy.com> trolled:
>>
>> [deletia]
>>
>> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small
>> medical clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost
>> because you hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody
>> died as a result.

> If it's an issue, then the issue clearly lies with the
> registration process. There shouldn't be such a short time
> between expiry and when someone new can claim it.

Not the moral issue. Moral fault would definitely lie with the one
who took deliberate action in the face of potentially dire
circumstances. Certainly we would be legally at fault. And you can
argue that we are incompetent.

But the person who stole the domain name causing death is quite
arguably evil.

> But the problem also rests with people who can't keep track of
> such an important thing as you describe.

We have conceded that.

> That is the sort of carpetbagger we are now seeing, the clueless
> coming to the internet, "knowing" all that they need to know, but
> then they can't even keep track of their domain registration?

Nonsense. There is nothing "clueless" about making a simple
mistake. We have been renewing the domain for 7 years. Nothing
clueless at all.

If anyone is clueless, it is Pitcher for hijacking the name simply
to annoy us and potentially causes dire results. And if anyone else
is clueless it is boobs like you who can't see that what he did was
irresponsible and morally reprehensible.

If anyone had died, it would have been partially our fault for
making a mistake. But it would be partially his fault for acting in
an evil malicious manner.

cordially, as always,

rm

rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

Res <res.TakeThisOut@ausics.net> trolled:
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
>> Very true. It's not /my/ job to remind RM of his obligations.

>> Actually, it is/was his registrar's job (i.e. Tucows.com). CIRA
>> sends a reminder email to the registered holder at their
>> registered email address (I surmise that RM changed his email
>> address without informing CIRA), and sends a copy of the reminder
>> to the registrar. The registrar /usually/ reminds the registrant
>> via email.

> Most likley the case, or he has a filter that trashed it as spam,
> either way, it is not your problem, the domain was free for
> anyone, would he be here bitching like a little girl if teh daomin
> was snapped up by say, Shaw or perhaps Linus himself? I think we
> all know the answer to that one don't we Smile

What really happened, if you are truly interested, is that we were
registered using dranyamlr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com but since we got so much spam
at that address, we changed to dranyamlr.TakeThisOut@gmale.com (or something
like that) and we forgot to look for the CIRA renewal notice.

The fact remains, Pitcher hijacked the domain we held for seven
years just to annoy us. He has zero interest in actually using it.
The classy thing for him to do is return it.

And that should go without saying...

cordially, as always,

rm

~kurt · External Since: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 194

Michael Black <et472.TakeThisOut@ncf.ca> wrote:
>
> But the problem also rests with people who can't keep track of such
> an important thing as you describe. If it was important to you, you
> should have been keeping track of when it was going to expire. I know

rm was in between meds....

Too funny seeing how agitated he is over it. You would think such an
accomplished troll would be better at hiding this.

- Kurt

Robby Workman · External Since: Jan 08, 2006 Posts: 258

On 2009-11-07, rm.DeleteThis@LewPitcherIsGay.com <rm.DeleteThis@LewPitcherIsGay.com> wrote:
> Lew Pitcher <lpitcher.DeleteThis@teksavvy.com> trolled:
>
> [deletia]
>
> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
> clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
> hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
> result.
>
> No question that we would be liable, legally. But you, and you
> alone, would be morally responsible for that death. How would you
> like to explain to the family of the person who died that your
> little "prank" cost their loved ones their life?

You don't get to decide what someone else's morals are.

-RW

rm · External Since: Nov 06, 2009 Posts: 13

Robby Workman <newsgroups.TakeThisOut@rlworkman.net> trolled:
> On 2009-11-07, rm.TakeThisOut@LewPitcherIsGay.com <rm.TakeThisOut@LewPitcherIsGay.com> wrote:
>> Lew Pitcher <lpitcher.TakeThisOut@teksavvy.com> trolled:
>>
>> [deletia]
>>
>> Let's just say that we were running a mailserver for a small medical
>> clinic. And let's just say that some email got lost because you
>> hijacked our site. And let's just say that somebody died as a
>> result.
>>
>> No question that we would be liable, legally. But you, and you
>> alone, would be morally responsible for that death. How would you
>> like to explain to the family of the person who died that your
>> little "prank" cost their loved ones their life?
>
>
> You don't get to decide what someone else's morals are.

We more or less share morality. If we didn't we would live in
anarchy and chaos.

cordially, as always,

rm