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DiskMan · External Since: Aug 19, 2006 Posts: 12

Just wondering, that's all... DiskMan

Jim Woodruff · External Since: Feb 28, 2005 Posts: 28

DiskMan formed by artistic effort the following on 08/19/06 14:54:
> Just wondering, that's all... DiskMan
>
I'm here. My sx164 is purring away.

Jim

Robert M. Riches Jr. · External Since: Apr 19, 2004 Posts: 1289

On 2006-08-19, DiskMan <DiskMan DeleteThis @nobody.com> wrote:
> Just wondering, that's all... DiskMan

I suspect there are a few of us still subscribed to this
newsgroup, but not many are posting.

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Piotr Hosowicz · External Since: Nov 26, 2005 Posts: 4

DiskMan wrote:

> Just wondering, that's all... DiskMan

I am here. My AS1200 rox (Debian + Tru64 UNIX).

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Sylvain Robitaille · External Since: Sep 01, 2004 Posts: 774

DiskMan wrote:

> Just wondering, that's all...

As many others, I'm here, but haven't had anything to post ... My
project to port a current Slackware Linux to the Alpha has been stalled
for over a year now, I'm afraid. The AS1200 I was using is just too
darned loud to leave running in a normal house ... Sad

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Dr Ivan D. Reid · External Since: Nov 02, 2005 Posts: 21

On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:54:47 GMT, DiskMan <DiskMan.DeleteThis@nobody.com>
wrote in <HMLFg.40052$Nt2.15639@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>:
> Just wondering, that's all... DiskMan

<1940s' Elmer Fudd cartoon wolf mode>

Nobody here but us chickens!

</1EFcwm>

Wink

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DiskMan · External Since: Aug 19, 2006 Posts: 12

Sylvain Robitaille wrote:
> DiskMan wrote:
>
>> Just wondering, that's all...
>
> As many others, I'm here, but haven't had anything to post ... My
> project to port a current Slackware Linux to the Alpha has been stalled
> for over a year now, I'm afraid. The AS1200 I was using is just too
> darned loud to leave running in a normal house ... Sad

>
It's getting 'too loud'? Is the fan on it getting a little noisey? Will L G

DiskMan · External Since: Aug 19, 2006 Posts: 12

Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:54:47 GMT, DiskMan <DiskMan.DeleteThis@nobody.com>
> wrote in <HMLFg.40052$Nt2.15639@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>:
>> Just wondering, that's all... DiskMan
>
> <1940s' Elmer Fudd cartoon wolf mode>
>
> Nobody here but us chickens!
>
> </1EFcwm>
>
> Wink

>

that's pretty good... I remember that quote to, the minute I saw it *lol*

DiskMan · External Since: Aug 19, 2006 Posts: 12

Robert M. Riches Jr. wrote:
> On 2006-08-19, DiskMan <DiskMan.TakeThisOut@nobody.com> wrote:
>> Just wondering, that's all... DiskMan
>
> I suspect there are a few of us still subscribed to this
> newsgroup, but not many are posting.
>
Hey nice to hear from you again! Long time no see... I was just testing
out Thunderbird and made a 'test' post since I haven't seen any posts
here or anything. It's nice to see a lot of the 'gang' still here. Come
and check it out myself, from time to time. Will L G

DiskMan · External Since: Aug 19, 2006 Posts: 12

Jim Woodruff wrote:
> DiskMan formed by artistic effort the following on 08/19/06 14:54:
>> Just wondering, that's all... DiskMan
>>
> I'm here. My sx164 is purring away.
>
> Jim

Just wondering, are you running AlphaCore [http://alphacore.info]? Will L G

Jim Woodruff · External Since: Feb 28, 2005 Posts: 28

DiskMan formed by artistic effort the following on 08/21/06 01:41:
> Jim Woodruff wrote:
>
>> DiskMan formed by artistic effort the following on 08/19/06 14:54:
>>
>>> Just wondering, that's all... DiskMan
>>>
>>>
>> I'm here. My sx164 is purring away.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
> Just wondering, are you running AlphaCore [http://alphacore.info]? Will L G
>
No, Debian unstable.

Jim

DiskMan · External Since: Aug 19, 2006 Posts: 12

Piotr Hosowicz wrote:
> DiskMan wrote:
>
>> Just wondering, that's all... DiskMan
>
> I am here. My AS1200 rox (Debian + Tru64 UNIX).
>
I'm just kind of wondering...have they released any recent
patches/updates for Tru64? I was thinking of trying to get them to
release the Compaq C source code since a lot of the guys at Compaq/HP
Alpha team are now working at PA Semi:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/24/pasemi_power/

They're all in one place and someone might be able to point me in the
right direct concerning who to speak with. It would be nice considering
the Alpha is now defunct. To release the Compaq C code as a
goodbye/goodwill nature... Will L G

Sylvain Robitaille · External Since: Sep 01, 2004 Posts: 774

DiskMan wrote:

> It's getting 'too loud'?

No, it _is_ too loud ... The AS1200 has some rather ... "enthusiastic"
.... fans ...

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dawe · External Since: Aug 21, 2006 Posts: 6

I'm here
two DS25 + Gentoo Linux

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gl · External Since: Jul 28, 2005 Posts: 17

Il Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:54:47 +0000, DiskMan ha scritto:
> Just wondering, that's all... DiskMan

Hello everybody Smile

I've got a Multia, an AS1000 and a PWS 500 running Debian Sarge.
All others alphas running NetBSD and VMS.

Alpha Linux seems alive and kicking, but mainly in the hobbyist zone.
It would be nice to hear how many are still using Linux on Alpha machines
for business these days.
I could bet all Alpha installed base is running VMS and Tru64, and that
all who were running Linux have switched to x86
(or Sparc, or Power... maybe)

bye
gl

DiskMan · External Since: Aug 19, 2006 Posts: 12

gl.DeleteThis@decadence.it wrote:
> Il Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:54:47 +0000, DiskMan ha scritto:
>> Just wondering, that's all... DiskMan
>
> Hello everybody Smile

>
> I've got a Multia, an AS1000 and a PWS 500 running Debian Sarge.
> All others alphas running NetBSD and VMS.
>
> Alpha Linux seems alive and kicking, but mainly in the hobbyist zone.
> It would be nice to hear how many are still using Linux on Alpha machines
> for business these days.
> I could bet all Alpha installed base is running VMS and Tru64, and that
> all who were running Linux have switched to x86
> (or Sparc, or Power... maybe)
>
> bye
> gl
>
Nice to hear you have several boxes up and running. I know when ever I
file a bugreport some place like Gnome.org or KDE.org, they act like I
was running a museum piece or something Wink

I do have to admit though,
rolling over to an AMD64 is pretty tempting... especially when I fire up
Firefox or Thunderbird Wink

Will L G

gl · External Since: Jul 28, 2005 Posts: 17

Il Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:31:25 +0000, DiskMan ha scritto:
> Nice to hear you have several boxes up and running. I know when ever I
> file a bugreport some place like Gnome.org or KDE.org, they act like I
> was running a museum piece or something Wink

I do have to admit though,
> rolling over to an AMD64 is pretty tempting... especially when I fire up
> Firefox or Thunderbird Wink

Will L G

My home is someway like a museum for Digital machines Smile

Some alphas, some vaxen, vtXYZs, but still not a PDP! Sad

These days I'm trying to get the latest software running on my alphas,
(I'm upgrading to Debian Etch) so I could give you a hand for the
bugreports, at least to let them know we are two and more! Smile

At work, we run everything on an HP Proliant x86 running Debian Sarge.
It's really fast even if it serves all the desktop to some XTerminals.
Yes, x86 performance these days is really tempting.
As for the cheap hardware and replacement parts.
At work, I could not do my job on Alpha. Nor our customers can.
Simply, Alpha has never been targeted to SMB, which still are most of the
business running in the world.
But when I come to myself, when I come back home and to IT as my hobby, I
know which platform is the best!

Of course, in the medium/long time, Alpha arch will be a target like
vax and 68k and we have to face it, willing or not...
Anyway, I could bet that Alpha workstations and servers will be more
interesting (and better engeneered) than all the x86/x64 machines coming
out in the next 10 years!

Bye!
gl

DiskMan · External Since: Aug 19, 2006 Posts: 12

gl.TakeThisOut@decadence.it wrote:
> Il Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:31:25 +0000, DiskMan ha scritto:
>> Nice to hear you have several boxes up and running. I know when ever I
>> file a bugreport some place like Gnome.org or KDE.org, they act like I
>> was running a museum piece or something Wink

I do have to admit though,
>> rolling over to an AMD64 is pretty tempting... especially when I fire up
>> Firefox or Thunderbird Wink

Will L G
>
> My home is someway like a museum for Digital machines Smile

> Some alphas, some vaxen, vtXYZs, but still not a PDP! Sad

>
> These days I'm trying to get the latest software running on my alphas,
> (I'm upgrading to Debian Etch) so I could give you a hand for the
> bugreports, at least to let them know we are two and more! Smile

>
> At work, we run everything on an HP Proliant x86 running Debian Sarge.
> It's really fast even if it serves all the desktop to some XTerminals.
> Yes, x86 performance these days is really tempting.
> As for the cheap hardware and replacement parts.
> At work, I could not do my job on Alpha. Nor our customers can.
> Simply, Alpha has never been targeted to SMB, which still are most of the
> business running in the world.
> But when I come to myself, when I come back home and to IT as my hobby, I
> know which platform is the best!
>
> Of course, in the medium/long time, Alpha arch will be a target like
> vax and 68k and we have to face it, willing or not...
> Anyway, I could bet that Alpha workstations and servers will be more
> interesting (and better engeneered) than all the x86/x64 machines coming
> out in the next 10 years!
>
> Bye!
> gl
That's wild, I know a guy thats doing that sort of thing with SOHO x86
servers... When is company let him go and folded, they literally gave
him a boat load of servers and equipment... it was pretty wild!

One of these days I'm going to have to get me another domain name,
something like Alphas.com or some such and put up an software repository
of all the software I compiled for the Alpha [RH7.2+ to AlphaCore] along
with all the software patches available so that others can build their
own software on their own personal boxes.

Oh and one other thing, I'll keep you in mind next time I file a
bugreport... When ever I do bug searches, it seems my box is the only
one that comes up Wink

But since the AMD64 has rolled out, the number of
issues have dropped considerably. The first thing that comes to mind is
the 'reallocation' errors that I got with Xfree86-4.6 at Xfree.org...
Some issues with their code and later releases of Bintils/GCC-4.x...
Well I'll talk to you in a bit, Will L G [wlgivensREMOVETHIS@southkc.net]

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gl · External Since: Jul 28, 2005 Posts: 17

Il Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:42:52 +0000, DiskMan ha scritto:
> One of these days I'm going to have to get me another domain name,
> something like Alphas.com or some such and put up an software repository
> of all the software I compiled for the Alpha [RH7.2+ to AlphaCore] along
> with all the software patches available so that others can build their
> own software on their own personal boxes.

RH 7.2 seems really outdated, there should be GBs of software to download.
Or are you just making security patches?

> Oh and one other thing, I'll keep you in mind next time I file a
> bugreport... When ever I do bug searches, it seems my box is the only
> one that comes up Wink

But since the AMD64 has rolled out, the number of
> issues have dropped considerably. The first thing that comes to mind is

I think that there were problems which showed up only on Alpha because of
64bit architecture.
It sounds strange that the bugs didn't show up on Sparc and Power and only
got fixed on AMD64... maybe... larger user base?

> the 'reallocation' errors that I got with Xfree86-4.6 at Xfree.org...
> Some issues with their code and later releases of Bintils/GCC-4.x...

Ehm...
I still consider that dropping XFree after 4.3.0 is a good idea!

ciao!
gl

DiskMan · External Since: Aug 19, 2006 Posts: 12

gl RemoveThis @decadence.it wrote:
> Il Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:42:52 +0000, DiskMan ha scritto:
>> One of these days I'm going to have to get me another domain name,
>> something like Alphas.com or some such and put up an software repository
>> of all the software I compiled for the Alpha [RH7.2+ to AlphaCore] along
>> with all the software patches available so that others can build their
>> own software on their own personal boxes.
>
> RH 7.2 seems really outdated, there should be GBs of software to download.
> Or are you just making security patches?
>
>> Oh and one other thing, I'll keep you in mind next time I file a
>> bugreport... When ever I do bug searches, it seems my box is the only
>> one that comes up Wink

But since the AMD64 has rolled out, the number of
>> issues have dropped considerably. The first thing that comes to mind is
>
> I think that there were problems which showed up only on Alpha because of
> 64bit architecture.
> It sounds strange that the bugs didn't show up on Sparc and Power and only
> got fixed on AMD64... maybe... larger user base?
>
>> the 'reallocation' errors that I got with Xfree86-4.6 at Xfree.org...
>> Some issues with their code and later releases of Bintils/GCC-4.x...
>
> Ehm...
> I still consider that dropping XFree after 4.3.0 is a good idea!
>
> ciao!
> gl

Well it may be Redhat 7.2 but its pretty up to date... At the time that
I went with RH7.2 it was the only real game around not to mention it was
actually created by Compaq on behalf of Redhat. My current install is
several years old and runs almost all the latest software:

Kernel-2.6.16.1
GLIBC-2.3.2
KDE-3.5.3
Gnome-2.10.x [last version not requiring Xorg]
Xfce-4.2.3.x
Xfree86-4.5
GCC-4.1.1/4.1.0/3.4.3/3.2.3/3.0.4/2.96
Binutils-2.17.0
QuakeI/II/III
Battlefield 1942 [still working some kinks out of that one]
LinCity
etc.

It's Redhat 7.2 in name and in a couple of configure scripts Wink

Granted
I compile a lot of software on this box but I also roll everything in to
RPM's so reinstalling/updating is a breeze... Not to mention I don't
have a lot of 'dead' files laying around. If I did do a complete
reinstall, I could get everything back up to snuff in a matter of a few
'rpm -Uvh <files>' ... Will L G