Debian P2P Team

Andrea Veri · External Since: Jul 08, 2009 Posts: 15

hi,

since some time I'm wondering why there is *not* a Debian-p2p team
active already. We have several p2p-related packages in the archive and
it looks like they are maintained individually and not by a specific
team. Therefore I would like to add some questions about this:

1. Why no one had the idea to make such a team yet?
2. is this the right case to set up a new team that will take care of
every p2p-related package?
3. and if yes, someone willing to help developing / creating a new team
like the other ones active on the Debian Project already? (like the
Python Team, or the Gnome Team or ...)

Of course, the first thing we should focus on is creating a good
collaboration between all maintainers, that should agree moving their
work to a team-like way.

Let me know if you have any thoughts about this.

Andrea

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Brivaldo Junior · External Since: Aug 28, 2009 Posts: 1

> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Andrea Veri<andrea.veri89.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi,
>

Hi,

> since some time I'm wondering why there is *not* a Debian-p2p team
> active already. We have several p2p-related packages in the archive and
> it looks like they are maintained individually and not by a specific
> team. Therefore I would like to add some questions about this:
>
> 1. Why no one had the idea to make such a team yet?

I think like you, why not?

> 2. is this the right case to set up a new team that will take care of
> every p2p-related package?

create a p2p network around repository sound interesting.

> 3. and if yes, someone willing to help developing / creating a new team
> like the other ones active on the Debian Project already? (like the
> Python Team, or the Gnome Team or ...)
>

I can help to do this project reality, and have resources to do either.

> Of course, the first thing we should focus on is creating a good
> collaboration between all maintainers, that should agree moving their
> work to a team-like way.
>

Of course.

>
> Let me know if you have any thoughts about this.
>

Let's go!

Regards,
Brivaldo Jr (condector)

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Andrea Veri · External Since: Jul 08, 2009 Posts: 15

Simon Richter ha scritto:
> Is there a specific problem you are trying to solve?

Actually there isn't a specific problem, I just think working as a team
might improve the quality of packages when, for istance, a MIA
maintainer leaves his package orphaned for long time without having no
one looking at it. This way the fact to have a team behind all packages
might reassure users about having their problems fixed without any
consistent delay.

>
> I don't think people "should" change their workflow if there is no visible
> need.

Well, I don't think we should call this a true 'workflow' change,
operating as a team can make things easier for everyone, above all for
maintainers who are pretty busy and unable to provide new revisions in a
small period of time.

Andrea

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Simon Richter · External Since: Dec 21, 2004 Posts: 112

Hi,

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 02:10:28AM +0200, Andrea Veri wrote:

> since some time I'm wondering why there is *not* a Debian-p2p team
> active already. We have several p2p-related packages in the archive and
> it looks like they are maintained individually and not by a specific
> team.

Is there a specific problem you are trying to solve?

> Of course, the first thing we should focus on is creating a good
> collaboration between all maintainers, that should agree moving their
> work to a team-like way.

I don't think people "should" change their workflow if there is no visible
need.

Simon

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Andrea Veri · External Since: Jul 08, 2009 Posts: 15

Simon Richter ha scritto:

> I also have found that for team-maintained packages, I felt less and less
> responsible for packages after receiving mails that told me that they had
> "fixed" some deliberate choice I made. The same people hell-bent on having
> every package team-maintained will not stand idly by if a stanza for a
> shared library package is commented out because the ABI is unstable.

I agree with you here.

> Teams make sense if most of the packages in the group follow the same
> structure, for example perl packages, and maintainers are essentially
> exchangeable because one does not need to understand how the software in
> question actually works.

yeah, unfortunately p2p-related packages are written in several
different languages from C to python so it would be pretty hard for
maintainers to change their way of working cause too many differences
between their packages and the ones they would have to work on as a *team*.

Actually, I agree with your view about this and I think leaving
everything as it is, should be the best choice for everyone.

Thanks for the fast responses and for your suggestions,

Andrea

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Felipe Sateler · External Since: Jun 21, 2005 Posts: 101

Andrea Veri wrote:

>> Teams make sense if most of the packages in the group follow the same
>> structure, for example perl packages, and maintainers are essentially
>> exchangeable because one does not need to understand how the software in
>> question actually works.

Teams also make sense when most team members are active users of most of the
applications they co-maintain.

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