Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

Julien BLACHE · External Since: Nov 14, 2004 Posts: 580

Stanislav Maslovski <stanislav.maslovski.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Random segfaults during playback, random segfaults while scrolling the
>> playlist; can't have it running for more than 2 minutes.
>
> If you are using the version from Etch I would recommend upgrading/backporting
> to the version from unstable. It is quite usable.

I'm running unstable on all my desktops.

JB.

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"David Lopez Zajara · External Since: Jul 14, 2007 Posts: 9

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Julien BLACHE wrote:
> Stanislav Maslovski <stanislav.maslovski.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Random segfaults during playback, random segfaults while scrolling the
>>> playlist; can't have it running for more than 2 minutes.
>> If you are using the version from Etch I would recommend upgrading/backporting
>> to the version from unstable. It is quite usable.
>
> I'm running unstable on all my desktops.
>
> JB.
>

At all, xmms are an oldest package, because this, an more-tested package
and more-stable. In fact, xmms was the "default" player on linux, or the
most popular long ago. It's normal who a package with this are more
tested and cleaned.

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"David Lopez Zajara · External Since: Jul 14, 2007 Posts: 9

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Michal ÄŒihaÅ™ wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 09:25:21 +0300
> Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 04:22:59AM +0200, David Lopez Zajara (Er_Maqui) wrote:
>>
>>> xmms2... Well, when we have a decent client, then can are an option.
>>> Now, isn't it.
>> Same as with mpd :-/
>
> Have you tried to report missing features to authors of some client? Eg.
> Sonata upstream is usually very responsive on suggestions.
>

The point isn't report "missing features" to the main upstream, its who
if you are searching for a "package replace" you need a real replace.
Audacious have the same interface "winamp-like", but, its a newer
package and have some missing features. But, we can you read on this
thread, the point isn't to make an remaked-xmms on audacious, its makes
users switch to another player.

And the main point its to deliver who client its the best for user
switch, and the porposed alternatives, audacious its the client with
more possibilities (because their interface, like xmms), but isn't
because their missing features.

At all, this is my opinion, an opinion of a "not really noob, but not
really advanced, too" user, who are using xmms from long ago. Really i
have "tested" some options, but this doesn't convince me. I'm an "not
really exigent user", but i find some functionality on a player who
audacious doesn't get me.

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paddy · External Since: Feb 22, 2007 Posts: 23

On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 01:47:31AM +0200, David Lopez Zajara (Er_Maqui) wrote:
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> Julien BLACHE wrote:
> > Stanislav Maslovski <stanislav.maslovski.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Random segfaults during playback, random segfaults while scrolling the
> >>> playlist; can't have it running for more than 2 minutes.
> >> If you are using the version from Etch I would recommend upgrading/backporting
> >> to the version from unstable. It is quite usable.
> >
> > I'm running unstable on all my desktops.
> >
> > JB.
> >
>
> At all, xmms are an oldest package, because this, an more-tested package
> and more-stable. In fact, xmms was the "default" player on linux, or the
> most popular long ago. It's normal who a package with this are more
> tested and cleaned.

old skool Wink

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Paddy

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Stanislav Maslovski · External Since: Jul 16, 2006 Posts: 59

On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 09:28:05PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> Stanislav Maslovski <stanislav.maslovski RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Random segfaults during playback, random segfaults while scrolling the
> >> playlist; can't have it running for more than 2 minutes.
> >
> > If you are using the version from Etch I would recommend upgrading/backporting
> > to the version from unstable. It is quite usable.
>
> I'm running unstable on all my desktops.

Hm. I am running backported audacious on etch. I admit that I have seen
audacious segfaulting but not as often as you describe. Moreover, with this
new version I have yet to see it... Well, anyway, reportbug is our friend Wink

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David Moreno Garza · External Since: Jul 28, 2007 Posts: 22

On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 05:04 +0200, David Lopez Zajara (Er_Maqui) wrote:
> xmms have 11000+ popcon installations reported. The total reports of
> popcon are 57000+. This is aprox 20% of users. Now, are talking for
> removal an application for those users?...
>
> I've read the buglist of xmms, and i think who more than one and two
> bugs can be removed. Example of this can are #244984, #260754, #161702.
> A lot of these bugs are already opened because the version doesn't have
> changed (Are revised). I think who can be interesting revise the xmms
> buglist and close the outdated bugs, for a real information of
> application problems.
>
>
> I've read in this thread, this is for a orphan package. If this is the
> reason, doesnt have much more for talk, another mantainer will become.
> xmms its a very popular package. I think who an orphan isn't a reason at
> all for removal from arch.

It clearly seems that you haven't read the whole thread. Your
understanding of the only argument for removing xmms being that it's
orphaned and your understanding of the only argument for keeping xmms
being that it's popular clearly shows your misread of the whole log on
the discussion.

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