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el




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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:53 pm
Post subject: Is there a way to split an already split internet connection

Hello,
I have the situation that we are in a shared house, with a 4-port router to split the internet connection. We have two computers, which should, preferably, both have internet. However we only have one port available on the router. Is there any way of splitting this port on the router into another two ports (like with USB hubs for example), without buying a new, 5-port, router?
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BudDurland




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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:02 pm
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Sure. Buy a new switch and connect it daisy-chain style to the router. This will give you three ports on the router, and (ports on the switch - 1) new ports to connect things to. I found this one at best buy for $10.00, but small network switches can be had all day long for < $25.00
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el




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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:54 am
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Thanks..so it works like with a USB hub..you connect a new switch (router?) to the spare port, and then have more ports?
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rmckay3688




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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:32 am
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HDMI supports sound but it has to be ver. 1.3 or above
. info @
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Definition_Multimedia_Interface
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el




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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:31 am
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I'm afraid I don't understand how HDMI is relevant to my question Confused
Perhaps someone can explain?
Thanks
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xavierx




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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:41 am
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I believe the HDMI post was meant to be on a different thread:
http://help.lockergnome.com/general/Audio-Video-Card-ftopict55434.html
Perhaps a moderator could move that?
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el




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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:31 pm
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Oh right! Well that explains everything Smile (apart from my second question Confused )
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xavierx




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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:48 pm
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Oh, right - you're right, you connect the switch to the spare port on the router to give yourself extra ports, like you would a USB hub.

Actually, though, have you thought about buying a wireless router to replace the current router? You can usually find one for $20 or less after rebate that has a 4 port wired router and the wireless, which essentially gives you an "unlimited" number of ports.
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el




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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:08 pm
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Thanks..now everything really is clear Wink. As it happens, I have an old wireless router Very Happy. Though I'm assuming I need to somehow set up my computer for a wireless connection..I think for now I'll leave it wired. But I'll keep it in mind for the future..
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xavierx




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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:34 pm
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Does your wireless router also have wired ports? If so, you could daisy chain that instead of having to buy a switch.
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zlim




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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:51 pm
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Be careful connecting a router to a router. There are changes that have to be made.
I took the easy way when I need more ports and hooked up a switch to one port of the router - no configuration needed.
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el




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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:19 am
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Oh..alright then. I guess I'll buy a switch Smile. But, I'm not quite sure, the name switch implies to me that either one or the other computer are connected (I need to switch)? I would need both connected to the internet at the same time. Does that work with a switch?
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alphanumeric




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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:47 am
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You don't need to "switch" anything when using a switch, it does everything on its own. Just so you know your router already has a 4 port switch built into it. You connect one of the ports on the switch to a free LAN port on your router and then connect your PCs to the other free ports on the switch. Just Google switch to see what it is and how it works. Wink
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xavierx




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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:43 pm
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zlim wrote:
Be careful connecting a router to a router. There are changes that have to be made.
I took the easy way when I need more ports and hooked up a switch to one port of the router - no configuration needed.

That's true, and if I were buying one for this purpose, I'd buy a switch, but since he already has the router, why spend the money? A little Google research should be fine to get the right settings.
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alphanumeric




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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:53 pm
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You turn the DHCP function off on the router you want to use as a switch. Then connect a network cable from a LAN port on first router to the a LAN port (do not use the WAN port) on the one you want to use as a switch. If you are not going to use the wireless I would just turn it off.
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el




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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:22 pm
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Ok. Thanks for that..now for my next question..how on earth do I deactivate DHCP on my router? I guess it's different for each router, and I should check the manual (if only I knew where that is Confused )?
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alphanumeric




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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:29 pm
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Connect your PC to one of the LAN ports of the router you want to log into. Open a command window => start => run => cmd => enter. Then run ipconfig/all. The IP address listed as default gateway will be the IP address of the router. Open IE and type http://(that IP address)/ into the address bar. That should pull up the web GUI for that router, its login page. Example http://192.168.0.1/ If you haven't set a password you use the default for that router, usually something like "admin" or leave it blank. Where you go after that depends on the make and model of router. The DHCP server function I'm talking about has to do with the LAN side. It's how the router gives out IP addresses to the PCs connected to it. You only want that service running on one router or your network will get messed up. Once you turn it off you won't be able to log back to that router unless you setup a static IP on the PC. That or reset the router to defaults with the reset button.
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xavierx




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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:40 pm
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If you need to know the default password for a router, check here:
www.routerpasswords.com
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el




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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:14 am
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ok..thank you very much Very Happy . After I have set that, the router should just be like a standard switch?
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alphanumeric




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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:43 am
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Pretty much. I've done it here at home so I could use the print server built into one of my older routers and connect it to my new wireless router.
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