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adkmom

Joined: Jun 18, 2003 Posts: 469
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm talking, like, 10 full seconds or more to get the program list to show. Doesn't matter if it's reg. XP or classic. Only start-up items are the bare-bones. Minimal number of programs actually loaded (perhaps 20 total including MS Office).
All basic speed tweaks are done- indexing off, performance over "looks" done in system performance settings, error-checking, disk clean-up & defrag run. Free space is 81%, RAM is 512mb, CPU 1.8 Celeron.
I ran Adaware & Spybot- Norton is on & updated.
The only thing I found on Google was one post referring to a machine that was on a network- & that perhaps because some of the programs that were listed in the start menu were on a server, it was having trouble finding/populating these? However- this is only me trying to view the programs list- not actually clicking on anything...
Ideas appreciated. I'm just trying to get this tuned & running better for a local, non-profit,
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Gary66

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| If your machine is trying to access programs that are on a server with your network, then yes that could slow it down. You might want to run a program called Memtest86 to test your memory. Norton is also a resource Hog, you may want to consider replacing it with either Avast or AVG. Both are free.
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adkmom

Joined: Jun 18, 2003 Posts: 469
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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If your machine is trying to access programs that are on a server with your network, then yes that could slow it down. You might want to run a program called Memtest86 to test your memory. Norton is also a resource Hog, you may want to consider replacing it with either Avast or AVG. Both are free.
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Actually, this is not the home version of Norton & isn't really sucking up much. I know about AVG/Avast but this is a fairly new, paid subscription that I'd just as soon not screw with.
RE: network shortcuts- would it be possible, then, to run something like Wincleaner (which I have here) to remove shortcuts that no longer point to anything?
This PC "used to" be on the network- but is now going to be a stand-alone unit. Whatever programs it used to connect with on the server are no longer necessary,
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Rons

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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Just remove the links or network drive icons that are looking for the phanthom network drives.  |
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mommabear

Joined: Feb 20, 2003 Posts: 6319
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Look in Folder options, View, and make sure "automatically search for network folders and printers" is unticked. That might help. |
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FormalDaHyde

Joined: Jan 02, 2005 Posts: 1511
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| I'm talking, like, 10 full seconds or more to get the program list to show... Tracy |
I think you mean the StartMenu programs shortcuts/links, are you not?
Here are a few notes that I have on this subject matter that may assist you:
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6.55 Speed Up Start Menu Panel (1)
The Start Menu can be leisurely when it decides to appear, but you can speed things along by changing it's settings from the Registry:
* Start Registry Editor (Regedit.exe).
* Locate the following key in the registry: HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Control Panel/Desktop/MenuShowDelay
By default, the value is 400.
* If in the HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Control Panel/Desktop/ "MenuShowDelay" is not available, then
* On the Edit menu, click Add Value, and then add the following registry value:
"MenuShowDelay"= defaults to 400 on install
* Change this to a smaller value, such as 0, to speed it up.
* Close the registry editor.
Setting MenuShowDelay too low, can actually hurt performance if Windows is using too many cycles creating and destroying undesired menus. This is a personal preference item. Experiment to see what value works best for you. I like a fairly low value with zippy flyout menus. I don't like to navigate menus under Start in geological time.
6.56 Speed Up Start Menu Panel (2)
Another easy way to speed up the display of the Start Menu Items is to turn off the menu shadow:
* Right click on an open area of the Desktop.
* Select Display Properties.
* Click on the Appearance tab.
* Click on the Effects button.
* Uncheck Show shadows under menus.
You will get much better overall performance.
6.57 Speed Up Right Click
Microsoft has finally confirmed what many XP users have long known; that right clicking an icon consumes a huge amount of CPU resources. This can have consequences on other processes that range from annoying to disastrous.
Anyway, the fix is here: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=819101
SYMPTOMS
In Windows Explorer, when you right-click a file or folder, you may experience any of the following behavior:
* Any file-copy operation that is occurring at that time may appear to stop responding.
* Network connection speed may significantly decrease.
* All streaming input/output operations are degraded. For example, streaming audio over Windows Media Player becomes distorted.
When you right-click a file or folder in Windows Explorer, the CPU usage goes to 100 percent while the shortcut menu is displayed. CPU usage returns to the correct level when the shortcut menu is closed. To work around this behavior, use either of the following methods.
Method 1
Turn off the transition effects for menus and ToolTips. To do this, follow these steps:
* Click Start, and then click Control Panel.
* In Control Panel, double-click Display, and then click the Appearance tab.
* On the Appearance tab, click Effects.
* In the Effects dialog box, click to clear the Use the following transition effect for menus and tooltips check box, and then click OK two times.
Method 2
Click the folder or file that you want (select it) before you right-click it to display the shortcut menu.
NOTE: This performance decline applies to both WinXP versions (upto at least SP1a) and also to all 7 versions of Win2003. |
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clhenry

Joined: Feb 13, 2003 Posts: 9051
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Something else you might want to think about. After running all the clean up utility's, ie= spybot, and others. Go to the doc's web site,
http://theshadow.members.atlantic.net/
"He is showing as the shadow now" And download a little program that he wrote, called xpclean., and run that. I was amazed at the speed difference after running that on computers that i had just cleaned. Can't hurt, thats for sure. Error: image could not be loaded. Image is not available from server
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adkmom

Joined: Jun 18, 2003 Posts: 469
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Thanks for the great ideas!
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Adkmom,
It's already obvious to any reader that you're not going to do what we tell you. Hundreds of thousands of words have already been written about what a real dog Norton AV or ISS, etc. is. And yet in spite of every expert on this and a g'zillion other forums telling you to shut that dog down, you insist on keeping it.
How can we really help you, no matter how much we'd like to, if you won't just do what we tell you?
Several times a week I set down to some lady's computer that's running like pure unadulterated crap and the first thing I do is remove Norton. At once, she can see that the computer is running better. VOILA, who would'a thunk it? If Norton refuses to come out cleanly, I run my Norton Killer that removes all Norton files and folders and then strips the Registry of 1891 entries that Norton leaves there.
At each stage, I reboot the PC so my customer can see how much better the system is booting up and running.
Then I procede to install my XPCleanup program, tweak the registry to greatly improve Windows XP performance and DE-Install all the Garbage Software that was installed by the computer manufacturer.
Then I run a little script that I wrote to disable all un-needed Services.
And, I run MSCONFIG and disable every single program that's not absolutely needed. I usually deminish that run list by 50% or more.
Then I install and run "Easy Cleaner" to clean up the registry and then I install and run NTREGOPT.exe to compress (defragment) the registry.
You can get all these little programs and much more from my Download Site.
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Another easy way to speed up the display of the Start Menu Items is to turn off the menu shadow:
* Right click on an open area of the Desktop.
* Select Display Properties.
* Click on the Appearance tab.
* Click on the Effects button.
* Uncheck Show shadows under menus.
You will get much better overall performance. |
I agree, however I go one step further and just select to adjust it for maximum performance. That will get you the most increase in performance for your effort. Don't forget to Apply changes when you adjust things like that.
There's another twenty steps at least to my own custom tuneup procedure, but that will get you up and running probably 50 to 100% better.
If you really want to.
From here, I've done all I can to help you. The rest is up to you.
Cheers,
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Sorry, the board did it again....bouble posted.
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| This board is going nuts....sorry for the duplicate post. |
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keastland

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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:57 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Wow... way to put an end to the thread with your arrogance, Shadow.
As much as you'd like to simply blame one single application, you're wrong. I work for a large corporation and we are just now experiencing this same issue on multiple WinXP machines... and we don't run Norton or any other resource intensive hog like that.
You seem like a pretty smart person, you should know that there is rarely one single answer for any issue.
With that being said, I've done the basic settings like turnin off the "Show shadows..." and change the reg setting for MenuShowDelay... but yet the problem persists. I've Googled it and have not found any other ideas. Processor doesn't seem to be getting bogged down. Plenty of RAM....
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goretsky

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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:52 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Hello,
You picked up a two-year old message thread, so I am not sure how many replies--if any--you will receive.
When I hear about problems like yours I wonder if there could be a trust relationship issue between your workstations and the primary domain that causes a delay between the shortcuts appearing: For some reason, the local operating system is having to verify its permission to display them with the domain controller, and there is a problem of some sort resulting in an error or at least a slowdown in performance.
Were there any recent changes made to the workstations, servers or network topology that could be introducing delays or alternate routes to the servers on the network from the workstations?
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drwho07

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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Correctomundo!
That's why it takes about three hours and a whole bunch of batch files and programs to really clean up a PC that's had little or NO maintenance.
From what I've seen of "corporate" PC's, "NO Maintenance" pretty well sums it up.
Even just running what MS has supplied...... "Disk Cleanup" and "Defrag" would help, but who even does that much?
The biggest bottleneck in most systems is the Hard Drive and one that's loaded with junk files and badly fragmented will run really slow indeed.
My worse case scenerio, is a Lawyer's PC that I had to work on once, that had over 105 million temporary internet files on it as well as several thousand other assorted junk files. Talk about gross negligence!
I see the same thing, but usually to a lesser degree, on every PC that I have to work on. Just a little maintenance can go a long ways, toward keeping a PC running at optimum performance.
Merry Christmas Everyone!
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keastland

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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Yeah, I knew it was old, but I wasn't finding any other resources out there with any useful info. So I thought reviving this thread might help.
However, in the time since I posted that, I think we've cleared up our problem. Apparently one of the links in the All Programs list was trying to utilize a network resource. So it was just simply taking time to establish a connection. Once we deleted that program from the All Programs list, the list populates quickly as it should.
Hope that helps someone out there. |
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