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frazzeld

Joined: Aug 05, 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: Looking for a program to flash hdd firmware |
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| Hi Guy's
I have an Hdd that has locked (Requires Password on Boot) I've tried using HddUnlock - Ultimate Boot Cd - Mhdd & ATPWD.... all with no luck! i've read that you can by pass the password protection by flashing the firmware, I have the firmware.... so now I need to make a bootable disk which will load the firmware
looking for some help
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alphanumeric

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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| Are you sure thats a hard drive password and not a BIOS password? If it's a BIOS password you just reset your BIOS to defaults with the jumper on the motherboard.
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frazzeld

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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| All the programs that I have used, say it's the Hdd thats locked, BTW its a 2.5 Hdd...I have removed the battery from the Motherboard could not see any jumpers! |
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silmaril8n

Joined: Jan 29, 2004 Posts: 1743
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| Can you post the details about the make/model of the drive? |
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frazzeld

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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Seagate
Momentus 40Gb
ST94811A |
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alphanumeric

Joined: Jun 02, 2004 Posts: 647
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| If the data on the drive is encrypted and you don't wish to recover it, just delete the partition(s) and format it. If you really do have to flash the firmware there should be instructions on the drive makers web site. I have flashed DVD drives and it is the same as flashing your BIOS. You run the flash utility and tell it what file to flash with. Bootdisk.com has free down loadable images to make a floppy for flashing your bios. |
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goretsky

Joined: Dec 07, 2002 Posts: 9041
Location: Southern California
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Hello,
What brand and model of computer did the Seagate Momentus 40GB hard disk drive come out of?
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Aryeh Goretsky |
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drwho07

Joined: Nov 29, 2007 Posts: 1546
Location: Central FL, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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My last investigation into flashing a HD bios ended with finding out that HD bios's are factory installed in ROM chips, NOT eProms and thusly cannot be flashed or updated. That came straight from Seagate/Maxtor.
However, CD/DVD drives DO have eProms that can be flashed or updated.
There is NO password programmed into HD's.
The two possibilities for a bootup password are either in the BIOS or the OS.
I'm very curious though, why would you have a 2.5" drive on a desktop computer, or is this indeed a notebook? You didn't specify that, which is actually required information in this and most every forum.
It sounds like you're on a wild goose chase.
Remove all power from your system and remove the battery from the motherboard
and leave it out for at least 20 to 30 minutes. That should reset anything locked into the bios chip. Then replace the battery and restore system power and see if the bootup still halts asking for a password.
Good Luck,
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alphanumeric

Joined: Jun 02, 2004 Posts: 647
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:13 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| drwho07 wrote: |
There is NO password programmed into HD's.
The two possibilities for a bootup password are either in the BIOS or the OS.
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I was going to say the same thing but technology changes so fast I wasn't 100% sure susomebody hadn't found a way.
Actually I'm thinking the drive is just encrypted software wise. You'll see that on laptop drives in business PC's that have sensitive data. Too be honest I'm not up to speed on this stuff but if it was mine and I got it second hand I'd just try deleting the partition(s) and starting over.
It could also be something as simple as taking ownership of the files and folders on the drive if it's just a windows file permission thing. Hard to say for sure from what is posted so far, at least for me it is.  |
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drwho07

Joined: Nov 29, 2007 Posts: 1546
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Yeah, it's so dang'd frustrating, trying to help someone who won't do what this and every forum tells them to do. (give us ALL the information about your system)
For every password or some type of "protection" some h-a-c-k-e-r has found a way around it.
I have several CD's that have been sent to me by friends, with programs to do all sorts of bypasses, getting around Windows passwords and what have you.
The answer is always in the details..............
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goretsky

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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Hello,
Most hard disk drives actually do have firmware in them. They actually do have tiny embedded controllers in them these days, which is why you don't need a full length controller card sitting in an expansion slot to run the drive.
Not all of them can be updated by the end user, though. Sometimes it requires jumpering some of the reserved jumpers and connecting a serial cable to unused pins or contact pads on the drive to perform the actual upload.
All, or at least a majority, of 2.5" SATA hard disk drives, though, are field upgradeable. If you visit this page on IBM's web site, you'll see they have a bootable CD used to flash the firmware on the various hard disk drives shipped in Lenovo computers. Usually this is done to do things like fix incompatibilities with the shock sensors in the computer so the heads can be moved out of the way during an acceleration event, but it looks like the last one was to fix some issues with operating system installations. The disc contains updated firmware for Fujitsu, Hitachi and Toshiba disk drives. I suspect there is an equivalent process for Western Digital and Seagate hard disk drives, but since Lenovo doesn't ship ThinkPads with those brands of hard disk drives, they do not include them.
There actually was a discussion about hard disk drive passwords a while ago in the forum. You can find it here. One of the messages contains some links to the standards for embedded password protection on hard disk drives.
Anyways, I can think of two solutions to the problem:
- Insert the hard disk drive back into the computer, enter the password to access the hard disk drive, then disable it.
- Return the hard disk to the manufacturer for replacement.
The latter is only useful if you do not care about what is on the hard disk drive, as you will receive a blank one back from Seagate.
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Aryeh Goretsky |
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Michael84

Joined: Jan 27, 2009 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:46 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| drwho07 wrote: |
Yeah, it's so dang'd frustrating, trying to help someone who won't do what this and every forum tells them to do. (give us ALL the information about your system)
For every password or some type of "protection" some h-a-c-k-e-r has found a way around it.
I have several CD's that have been sent to me by friends, with programs to do all sorts of bypasses, getting around Windows passwords and what have you.
The answer is always in the details..............
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Yes, there are often problems like that but maybe he should try then this disk usage analysis tool. I think it will be useful in this case... |
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drwho07

Joined: Nov 29, 2007 Posts: 1546
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:04 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Michael,
You're responding to threads that are months old.
If the original poster has not fixed his problem by now, he never will.
And I doubt he's still reading this thread.
Just a thought.
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