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okay some info or help on cpu heat sensers please.

 
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rovingcowboy



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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 1:29 am    Post subject: okay some info or help on cpu heat sensers please.

heres what i am doing or trying to do.


1. the dell dimension 8200 i have is getting old now.
i've heard the cooling fan on the cpu start up almost every
day with only an couple hours of it being off.

2. so i get this 3rd party cpu cooling program called cpu eat and cool.
it has a 2005 date on it. the author is off line cant find anything out about it. but it has an option for use with the mbm5 program

3. so i got the last one of that program the 3.7 version but it does not show any sensers for anything only the ones on the hard drive.

so i used the config wizard it has to set up my system found the list
of mother boards it supports clicked on dell clicked on the dimension 8200 listing and got, " mother board not supported "

so now i am wondering how can the cpu eat n cool program work if it can't find any temp sensers either?

4. is there any cooling that will work on the dell dimension's
Sad Shocked Confused


Yes i have used compressed air to clean the dust out. Cool
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goretsky



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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 2:33 am    Post subject:

Hello,

Have you opened the Dell Dimension 8200 and cleaned the inside of dust and debris, then cleaned or replaced the fans?

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky
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rovingcowboy



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject:

trouble fixed.

i unplugged the dell am not going to use it just take parts from it for other systems like the cdrom drive and any thing i need like a gray cable or such.

but this dell tower has been tumbled.
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drwho07



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:59 am    Post subject:

A couple of years ago, I was given a Dell XPS-400 that Dell had totally given up on.
They sent the guy a new one, which lasted almost a year, before it blew out its power supply.

I fussed around with the XPS-400 till it finally blew its own brains out and then I scrapped it out, saving the fans and add-in hardware.

But back to CPU cooling.
You can blow air at a CPU heatsink till the cows come home and you will NOT dislodge the dirt that builds up on and between the cooling fins.
That requires soap and water and a stiff brush, that can get well down into that tight space between the heat sink fins.

Think of it, like trying to blow grease and dirt off of your hands with a can of compressed air, after you've spent several hours working on your car engine.

At least once a year, I remove my own OEM cpu cooler and give it a bath, in hot soapy water. (with the fan removed, of course)
And, I use a scrub brush that gets will down into the cooling fins.
Then I clean and oil the fan, put on new heat sink grease and reinstall the cooling assembly to the CPU. I keep my CPU coolers running for years with that technique.
I still have a PC that I built back in 2000. The cpu cooler has been serviced twice in that many years and is still working perfectly.

I don't trust any built-in heat sensors. They are only good for "Ball Park" readings anyway and are not calibrated to be accurate.

In any computer, you can take a temperature reading in one spot and get a reading and then test another spot a few millimeters away and get a totally different reading. So which one is right? Neither, actually!

My own method is to lay my index finger (my digital heat sensor) on any spot in the computer and if I draw my finger back with a curse, it's too hot. Twisted Evil

I just did that with my CPU heatsink and my three HD's and all were cool to the touch.
You probably won't want to do that if you use an Intel cpu.
They run much hotter than AMD processors. Wink

Happy Holidays Everyone !

The Doctor Cool


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Raydeo



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Location: Boring, Oregon

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject: Heatsink Cleaning

I'm in total agreement with Doc's cleanup technique, as I do the same.

I might add that if you're not comfortable with removing the heatsink,
(no 'grease' avail, etc) you can do a lot of good by just removing the Fan and cleaning/lubing it. Then use Q-tips soaked with alcohol to clean the fins of the heatsink ( and blades of the fan ) as best you can . Vodka will work, but not as good as regular alcohol Smile

Should then be good for another 100,000 miles ... Wink
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goretsky



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:55 am    Post subject:

Hello,

A paint brush is very useful for removing dirt and debris from heat sinks.

Current Intel (Core 2 Duo, i7) and AMD (Phenom II) CPUs radiate about the same amount of heat, 65-140 Watts (±20 Watts for Ultra Low Voltage or Quad Core models). For a listing of current thermal loads, see the List of CPU Power Dissipation article on Wikipedia.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky
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Raydeo



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:43 am    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

goretsky wrote:
Hello,

A paint brush is very useful for removing dirt and debris from heat sinks.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky


Yes, a paint brush is a much better way indeed !

And that way yer not wasting any Vodka Very Happy
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rovingcowboy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:18 pm    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

rovingcowboy wrote:
trouble fixed.

i unplugged the dell am not going to use it just take parts from it for other systems like the cdrom drive and any thing i need like a gray cable or such.

but this dell tower has been tumbled.


as said above my trouble is fixed.

it was more then just heat it was other stuff too. like a computer from dell running windows. that was an old system.
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