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wenbo



Joined: Sep 15, 2003
Posts: 367

Location: Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Is this a good system?

Found a deal but want to know if it's lacking something and if I should buy or pass. Thanks for any input.

Base Features


Processor Type


AMD Phenom X4 9750 Quad Core

Processor Speed


2.4GHz

RAM


8 GB DDR2

Hard Drive Speed/Capacity


750 GB (7200 RPM) SATA

Optical Drives


Super Multi DVD Burner with LightScribe

Graphics


NVIDIA GeForce 9100

Pre-loaded Operating System


Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit


Graphics


Dedicated Video Memory


No

Shared Video Memory


Yes - Up To 1407 MB

TV Tuner


No

Video Memory


256 MB


Display


HDCP Compliant


Not Applicable

Native Screen Resolution


Not Applicable

Screen Size/Type


Not Applicable


Audio


Audio Output


8-Speaker Configurable

Digital Input


No

Digital Output


Yes

Integrated Microphone


No

Line Out


Yes

Line-In input


Yes

Microphone Input


Yes

Sound Card


High Definition Audio

Speaker Wattage


Not Applicable

Speakers


No


Networking


Ethernet Port


10/100 Ethernet

Integrated Bluetooth


No

Integrated WiFi


802.11 a/b/g/n


Inputs/Outputs


Card Reader


Yes - 15-in-1

Component Output


No

Composite Output


No

DVI Output


Yes

E-SATA


No

FireWire (IEEE 1394)


1 - Back

HDMI


No

Keyboard


HP USB

Modem


No

Mouse


HP USB Optical

Remote


No

S-Video Output


No

USB 2.0


4 Back, 2 Front

VGA Output


Yes

Webcam


No


Computing Features


Available AGP Slots


Not Applicable

Available Hard Drive Bays


1 External 3.5" (Available), 2 Internal 3.5" (1 Available)

Available Memory Slots


4 DIMM (240-pin, DDR2) (Occupied)

Available Optical Bays


2 External 5.25" (1 Available)

Available PCI Slots


No

Available PCI-E Slots


3 PCI-E x1 (2 Available), 1 PCI-E x16 (Available)

Power Supply


Information Not Available

Processor Cache


2 MB L2, 2 MB Shared L3

Removable Storage


No

System Bus


3600 MHz


Software


Loaded Software 1


Cyberlink DVD Suite Deluxe

Loaded Software 2


Microsoft Works 9.0

Loaded Software 3


HP MediaSmart Software Suite

Loaded Software 4


Operating System Language


English
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goretsky



Joined: Dec 07, 2002
Posts: 9041

Location: Southern California

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:06 pm    Post subject:

Hello,

It does not sound bad, but that probably depends upon usage. If you are planning on playing any video games or doing any video editing then you might want to replace the on-board GeForce 9100 integrated graphics card with a dedicated video card.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky
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wenbo



Joined: Sep 15, 2003
Posts: 367

Location: Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:06 pm    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

goretsky wrote:
Hello,

It does not sound bad, but that probably depends upon usage. If you are planning on playing any video games or doing any video editing then you might want to replace the on-board GeForce 9100 integrated graphics card with a dedicated video card.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky


I'm not a gamer and wouldn't have a clue how to do video editing. I was a bit disappointed that it didn't have HDMI but I guess I can upgrade the video card to get that. The system costs $549.99 Canadian and I thought it was a steal at that price.

What do you think? Is it worth the money?
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tbernstein



Joined: May 16, 2003
Posts: 1576

Location: London

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Depends [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Two parts to that question.
1.) The obvious one... how does it compare in price to other Canadian systems and;
2.) How do the features compare to your actual needs?

For example, with the 64 bit OS you can use the full 8Gb of Ram. But will you actually use 8Gig? And will your desired software use the 64bit OS? Come to that, will it support the hardware you want to use and the programmes you may have already. Replacing stuff can be expensive.
Most of Microsoft Office will work happily in 2Gig.
Video editing ( nothing high end, just the stuff off a camcorder) works fine in the 3.4 or so gig that a 32 bit system manages.
You don't need the extra 4 Gig for that, or for the high-end of computer gaming, because you are not a mad gamer.
The preloaded software, essentially MS Works, isn't very wonderful. And won't use a fraction of the power.
You'll have to pay to buy Windows 7 if you want to upgrade from Vista. And while there are pros and cons to upgrading, starting off with Windows 7 sounds to be a very good idea.. Win 7 is due out in a couple of weeks and it seems to be one hell of a lot friendler to use than Vista.
Or to put it another way.
Have you any uses for a computer that couldn't be met in a 32bit OS with 3 or so gig of memory? And can you got one the same price or cheaper, with the software you want?
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PhotoCarp



Joined: Sep 06, 2007
Posts: 109



PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

The only problem that I can see with that system is that it appears to double or triple execute a carriage return command.
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drwho07



Joined: Nov 29, 2007
Posts: 1546

Location: Central FL, USA

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:12 pm    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

At the heart of any system's performance is the CPU, RAM and Hard Drive.

Those items seem to be well taken care of in that system.

I might want to get nosy and ask how many SATA ports are on the mobo and how many USB ports come out the back.
And, is the CD/DVD drive, SATA or IDE? (really a minor detail, but are there any open IDE ports?)

What size is the case and are there any open drive bays, for adding more HD's.
How many?

For most home computer users, the video that comes with the system would be more than satisfactory.

What kind of warranty comes with that system? and what kind of service can you get after the sale?

I seriously doubt that any tech could build that system , install the OS and software and deliver it to you, for that price. I'm sure I couldn't.

If you get it, please come back and let us know how it works out for you.

The Doctor Cool
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goretsky



Joined: Dec 07, 2002
Posts: 9041

Location: Southern California

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:23 am    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Hello,

If you do intend to upgrade the video card, either at purchase or a later date, you may wish to verify the power supply has sufficient wattage to power it.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky
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drwho07



Joined: Nov 29, 2007
Posts: 1546

Location: Central FL, USA

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:45 am    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

JFYI:

It's a common practice with computer manufacturers, to add things that we might even call "Eye Candy" to make the computer more sellable (like the 15 in one card reader) and then stick in a Bestec 300 watt PSU, well known to fail in the first year or two.

With today's hardware putting so many demands on the PSU, I wouldn't dream of building a new PC with anything less than a 500 watt PSU from a known good manufacturer.

I have two systems here, that I call System 1 and System 2 and both have Antec Earthwatts 650 PSU's.
System 1 is about two years old and is my main system.
System 2 is about seven years old and is my backup system.
I built them both and from time to time I may connect an extra HD and I can do that without worrying about overtaxing the PSU.

Just off hand, I can think of nothing worse than buying a Super Computer with an insufficient PSU. That's a disaster, just waiting to happen. Crying or Very sad

Good Luck,
The Doctor Cool
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