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rovingcowboy

Joined: Jan 26, 2003 Posts: 1515
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:27 am Post subject: not very good image on the screen. |
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okay this new system has a flat screen about 19 inch's wide.
so it is good on sharpness but it is too bright it wont keep the settings i put on the montior with the OSD options. it seems to re set the brightness after awhile. or that could be cause the flat screen is best viewed from below in the center like the huge movie screens are.
but this aint a movie screen..
also the ie seems to have trouble and so does every other app that shows on the screen.
circles are now egg shaped.? looks like that logo of chris is on silly puddy being pulled to the sides.
does any one know how to fix that on flat screens? i have no controls to move the sides in or the top and bottom out. the image is already on the border of the screen now.
thanks for any help you can give with this error.
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zlim

Joined: Mar 11, 2005 Posts: 2747
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| i have no controls to move the sides in or the top and bottom out. the image is already on the border of the screen now. |
Every LCD monitor I own has an auto adjust button. Press that and it takes care of fitting the image properly on the screen. I need to do this periodically when I switch from running linux to running windows.
A standard 19" monitor is 1280x768, a widescreen 19" monitor is 1280x800. Mentioned on a wiki.
Right click an empty spot on your desktop and choose display. Go to the last tab and see what the screen resolution is set at. You'd like 1280 by 800 BUT and it is a big one, perhaps the graphics card in the computer doesn't support that resolution, in which case you'll either get used to the display or get another graphics card.
I just checked and my 19" wide is using 1680 by 1050.
Let me do a bit more searching to find all the 19" wide options.
Apparently there are two possible widescreen aspect ratios. I've seen 16:9 and 16:10 mentioned. This will add more confusion to the proper settings.
I found these three 16:10 aspect ratios:
1280 x 800
1440 x 900
1680 x 800
Check the pamphlet that came with the monitor. It should list the best native resolution and it is probably one of the three above. |
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rovingcowboy

Joined: Jan 26, 2003 Posts: 1515
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:45 am Post subject: |
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this is an I - INC iW171A unit found their web site. no drivers updates.
found a driver control program in the computer its called GAM, for the monitor drivers, so i set it up the way i wanted.
when i rebooted the computer the drivers we reset to the factory preset again. this is what it has been doing to me it just won't save the settings and the one button i found in the OSD controls was called "Clock" and it does not mess with the clock but it changes the width of the screen?
so i did that and put it down to zero to get the circles round again.
well almost round, but they are now getting egg shapped again. also set it to 72 hrzts but my eyes are hurting now so i'll put it back on 60 |
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goretsky

Joined: Dec 07, 2002 Posts: 9662
Location: Southern California
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Hello,
Settings for the I-Inc iW171ABB 17" Widescreen Active Matrix TFT Display LCD monitor should be as follows:
Display Resolution: 1440 x 900
Refresh rate: 75Hz
according to this FAQ on their web site. A 60Hz resolution may be better if you are getting flickering or pulsing on the screen.
You might want to contact their technical support department (the email address is the in FAQ) to find out why the monitor is not saving the settings for brightness. Alternatively, you can try setting these in the Advanced section of the Display Settings for your video card (if such settings are present) or by using a third-party utility such as EnTech Taiwan's PowerStrip if no such option is available in the video card drivers.
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Aryeh Goretsky |
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bern

Joined: Mar 12, 2007 Posts: 1487
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Just to throw in a few more comments. You should ALWAYS set the graphics card resolution to the "native resolution" of the monitor for best results. There is no such thing as a "best native resolution" suggesting there may be more than one "native resolution". The native resolution is the actual number of pixels (picture elements) on the monitor screen. If the graphics card on the computer sends out anything else, the monitor must compensate (but see below), and this results in a suboptimal image; either with egg shaped circles, or fuzzy images, or both. The native resolution for your particular monitor is published on the manufacturer's website.
Now, some programs, especially games, will change the resolution being transmitted by the graphics card to whatever the game wants. This can lead to problems as described above. Many monitors have a setting that allows for a couple of alternatives:
In one alternative, the monitor will compensate for the new resolution by filling the screen exactly, no matter how many pixels are being transmitted by the graphics card. this means the monitor invents missing pixels, or ignores some when there are too many. This process is never perfect which leads to the artifacts mentioned above (egg shaped circles, which I call incorrect proportions), and some lack of sharpness.
In the other setting (and different manufacturers use different words to describe these settings) the monitor does nothing to the signal. If the resolution being sent to the monitor is smaller than the native resolution, the image will be of the correct proportions and sharp, but will be small in the middle of the screen with black borders. And if the resolution being sent is bigger than the native resolution, then the image will again be of correct proportions and sharp, but will not be displayed in its entirety, and you will have to scroll around the screen to see the whole image. I always use this monitor setting (which is not usually the default) because I value correct proportions and sharpness over always filling the screen.
If the monitor is not remembering the settings done with the monitor's own setup buttons, it suggests a problem with the monitor. I am not aware of any monitors that allow computer software to change the monitor's own settings. On the other hand, NVIdia and ATI graphics cards both feature settings that can change the color, brightness, contrast, etc. of the signal being sent to the monitor, and these changes do mimic the settings available on the monitor itself; It is important to know if the appearance of the monitor image is because of the signal being sent by the graphics card or because of the monitor's own controls. |
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rovingcowboy

Joined: Jan 26, 2003 Posts: 1515
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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looks like it is working now. has not changed in awhile.
but i upped the ram from 512 mb's to 2 gbs. maybe that helped.  |
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rovingcowboy

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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: |
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well it helped me a little bit but not sure if it fixed it the circles still look a little egg shapped.
but i found a chip set update for the video chip at the lenovo site that my system needed. must have been one of the ones i could not download cause of bad site set up back in 2007, but lenovo is now using a set up like dell so its easier to find and get things your system needs.
but every now and then i look at the screen and it looks like it is back the way it was. or sort of like someone breathing. it goes egg shaped normal circle, egg shaped normal circle, and so on.but not sure if that is my eyes trying to adjust for the mess up or the mess up doing it. fonts look normal squares look a little widerer then should be but since the newest drivers for this video is 2007 dated looks like i'll have to do with this set up til a newer one is needed in about 20 years if i'm still using this thing.  |
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bern

Joined: Mar 12, 2007 Posts: 1487
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:55 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| rovingcowboy wrote: |
well it helped me a little bit but not sure if it fixed it the circles still look a little egg shapped.
but i found a chip set update for the video chip at the lenovo site that my system needed. must have been one of the ones i could not download cause of bad site set up back in 2007, but lenovo is now using a set up like dell so its easier to find and get things your system needs.
but every now and then i look at the screen and it looks like it is back the way it was. or sort of like someone breathing. it goes egg shaped normal circle, egg shaped normal circle, and so on.but not sure if that is my eyes trying to adjust for the mess up or the mess up doing it. fonts look normal squares look a little widerer then should be but since the newest drivers for this video is 2007 dated looks like i'll have to do with this set up til a newer one is needed in about 20 years if i'm still using this thing.  |
You have not told us what you have set the graphics card resolution to.
Is there a menu function on the monitor? It would be surprising if there were not one present. What are the options in the menu when you first press the menu button?
The fact that the monitor seems to "jump" suggests to me either the monitor is getting a signal it doesn't like and is trying to compensate (unsuccessfully) or it is broken. |
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rovingcowboy

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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:53 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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its not a jumping screen, it just sloooooooooowwwlllyyyyy seems to change from round to egg shaped mostly on the explorer shell now.
the new drivers seemed to make it stay closer to normal on the pages.
and the osd is there on the monitor said that earlier when i mentioned the setting called " clock "
but the settings for the montior drivers have an option to change the image fo full borderless or with borders. it is now set at with borders so i get the better aspect ratio on the screens. since it was an update from lenovo to fix it this much then i'd say it was an internal error and i can't do anymore with it.  |
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