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dobbie6060

Joined: Aug 24, 2007 Posts: 551
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: Wow, Batman! KBR's $75 million U.S. Army Corps contract |
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KBR's Convenient Contract
Halliburton's offshoot, KBR, is awarded a $75 million U.S. Army Corps contract to provide emergency power to Western states days before a wildfire sweeps California, 'threatening the power of the city of Los Angeles'
Now, that's what I call a coincidence!
By Lori Price,
Holy convenience, Batman!
DWP Shuts Off Major Power Lines Due to 'Sayre' Fire 15 Nov 2008 The Sayre fire, which began around 10:30 last night in Sylmar has caused several transformers in the hills above the San Fernando Valley to explode, and as a result, the DWP has taken action to ensure the public's safety and to help the firefighters battle the blaze. According to a press release from early this morning: The Los Angeles Department of Water and Power began taking major power transmission lines near the Sayre Fire out of service at 5 AM today as the fire moved west toward the I-5 Corridor in Sylmar. Transmission lines were taken out of service due to the threat posed by the fire in order to assist firefighters and protect the public's safety.
The I-5 corridor through Sylmar serves as a major utility corridor for the LADWP and other utilities, bringing imported power to Los Angeles from power plants in the Pacific Northwest and Southwestern US.
As the fire moved toward the high-voltage transmission lines, the LADWP turned off these lines to ensure the safety of firefighters and the public. Because of the significant role these power lines play in supplying Los Angeles with energy, should they remain offline for a long period of time, the DWP may initiate rolling power outages in part of the City to handle the demand...
http://www.legitgov.org/kbr_convenient_corps_contract_161108.html |
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ejward

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| They're the only company big enough to deliver it quickly. 
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dobbie6060

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: Yup, KBR is big |
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and they're making millions here, as well as billions abroad
[thankyou cheney et al], cuz the troops,who should be home fighting these fires &other acts of god, are in Iraq&Afganistan promoting 'democracy' to a bunch of people who didn't ask us to.
[how would we feel if we were occupied in this manner?] |
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louis-the-cat

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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| This, together with the banking bail-out, should ensure that the exit strategy for the out-going administration retains its value. |
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tony7914

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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| louis-the-cat wrote: |
| This, together with the banking bail-out, should ensure that the exit strategy for the out-going administration retains its value. |
I don't think bailing out any of these businesses is a good idea. It's way more than we can afford and there is to little over site.
To be fair it's just as much congresses fault for writing and passing a crappy law as it is the Presidents for signing it. |
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louis-the-cat

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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Whether the tax payer can afford it or not never really came into the reckoning......what's important to these guys is that the value of their personal share portfolio is capable of keeping them financially secure when they're out of office.
That's THEIR exit strategy. |
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tony7914

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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| louis-the-cat wrote: |
Whether the tax payer can afford it or not never really came into the reckoning......what's important to these guys is that the value of their personal share portfolio is capable of keeping them financially secure when they're out of office.
That's THEIR exit strategy. |
I know, like many others i'm hoping this will change but it's not something I would bet is going to happen anytime soon. |
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CowpokeBob

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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: Yup, KBR is big [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| dobbie6060 wrote: |
and they're making millions here, as well as billions abroad
[thankyou cheney et al], cuz the troops,who should be home fighting these fires &other acts of god, are in Iraq&Afganistan promoting 'democracy' to a bunch of people who didn't ask us to.
[how would we feel if we were occupied in this manner?] |
It looks like this topic has taken a sudden turn into bailout territory but getting back to the original topic I fail to see what the problem is here. Is there something wrong with making money by doing what you are in business to do? Are you suggesting KBR somehow arranged the crises in order to get the contract? If so there is a fella in another post would like to talk to you about some airpalnes. And how did Cheney and Haliburton get pulled into this because there was no mention of them in the article? California is having a huge problem with wild fires knocking out electric power (I call it liberalism but we'll save that for another day) and somebody's got to deal with it. Who ya gonna call...
Sorry 'bout that but I couldn't resist. I don't know what the fascination is with taking cheap shots at the republican government but seems like no matter what happens in the world Bush/Cheney caused it or are to blame for it. Must be wonderful to be so powerful and influential. |
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dobbie6060

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CowpokeBob

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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Cheney/Halliburton Timeline [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Okay we have links from two organizations with asn obvious left leaning agenda, definitely not an unbiased source. The sources listed look to be mostly comprised of more left leaning sites, organzations and some editorials from left leaning papers. And they find all kinds of questionable behavior concerning Cheney, Haliburton, et al. Now, that's what I call a coincidence! All that aside I read 'em both but fail to see the relevance. Was there some crime or other wrongdoing commited in awarding the contract? The original post hinted strongly of some 'connection' between the awarding of the contract and the 'Sayre' wildfire occuring a few days later. I believe the words used were convenient and coincidence. Just wondering what all the fuss is about. |
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bern

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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: Wow, Batman! KBR's $75 million U.S. Army Corps contract [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| dobbie6060 wrote: |
KBR's Convenient Contract
Halliburton's offshoot, KBR, is awarded a $75 million U.S. Army Corps contract to provide emergency power to Western states days before a wildfire sweeps California, 'threatening the power of the city of Los Angeles'
Now, that's what I call a coincidence! l |
The implication is that the fire and the contract are somehow related.
1. To a big company, 75 million is chicken feed.
2. I don't know details of the contract, but it seems to me that if the contract is signed, you don't need the fire. It would make more sense if the fire came before the contract signing, as a sort of threat to sign or else to the people signing the contract.
3. I just signed a furnace service contract, and a week later, my furnace failed. Does this implicate the furnace company?
It might if my furnace had failed before I signed the contract to encourage my participation. |
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