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tbernstein



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Location: London

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:09 pm    Post subject: Windows 7

I can't believe that LG seems to have no Win 7 forum.
I love what I've used so far, but there are issues.
Like HP have not managed to come up with proper drivers for their J6400 series multi-function printers ( No surprises there. HP software engineering seems like it is always c**p).
And the Google Calendar sync ( which always said it' s only for XP and Vista) doesn't work in 7 on my machine. So presumably hasn't been updated yet.

There may be other issues out there. In fact there are bound to be.
So where is the forum to share these things.
There isn't even a dedicated thread.
Not here anyway...
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goretsky



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:54 am    Post subject:

Hello,

The Windows Fanatics section covers all versions of Microsoft Windows.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky
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drwho07



Joined: Nov 29, 2007
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Location: Central FL, USA

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject:

The most information I've been able to find on Windows 7, is in the Windows 7 forum. It seems like all the Win-7 experts are there.
It's a sub-forum to the 'vista Forum'.

Firefox 3.5.3 and its primary addons work just fine in Win-7.
Older programs that I'm using in win-7 are, Spybot S&D and Spyware Blaster 4.2

AVG 8.5 worked just fine, but automatically updated itself to 9.0 last night.

I'm currently running Win-7 on two systems, with the 64 bit version on my main system and the 32 bit version on my backup system. Both are running very well indeed.

Check out that Windows 7 Forum.

The Doctor Cool
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zlim



Joined: Mar 11, 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject:

This forum seems useful
http://www.sevenforums.com/
and has tutorials for various aspects
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/257-windows-7-tutorial-index.html

I'll be reading there.
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donrc



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:32 pm    Post subject:

zlim,
Those tutorials look very useful. Finding where all the old familiar settings have been moved to is a major problem with Win7. You know what to change, but you have no idea where to look for it.
Thanks for the reference.

drc
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drwho07



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:38 am    Post subject:

My problem with Win-7 is actually with those geeks at MS that feel obliged to change things that never needed to be changed.
Why change Solitaire? It's worked just fine since Windows 3.1.

And, why destroy Outlook Express, which millions of users have grown to know and love.
Now Windows 7 doesn't even have a working email program.
What's up with that? That has to be the most ignorant thing I've ever heard of,
coming out of microshaft.

Sure Win-7 runs faster on my system than XP does, but when it takes away the basis things that I use every day, then it's just another piece of crap!!!
I sure don't need it !!! Evil or Very Mad

Looks like I'll be running XP-Pro till the cows come home.

The Doctor Cool
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zlim



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:46 am    Post subject:

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why destroy Outlook Express, which millions of users have grown to know and love.
Now Windows 7 doesn't even have a working email program.
What's up with that?
Fear. Microsoft is afraid of getting sued in countries besides the European Union. Bundling too much with the operating system creates a monopoly and makes it extremely hard for companies to compete.
MS started it way back when Netscape was "the" browser to use. MS started bundling Internet Explorer with windows. Although Netscape was the better browser, many people stopped buying the browser and Netscape was killed off by Microsoft.

Because of the EU lawsuit, for the first time in many years, it is possible to remove IE from the Operating system.
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drwho07



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject:

Well, I've not tried to remove I.E., but I certainly don't use it.
Firefox, built on the old Netscape core, is my browser of choice.
(( I'm actually testing Firefox 3.6 Beta 1 as of this post ))

If M$ had put in a user accessible switch where Windows Mail could be turned ON, that would be one thing but those idiots put the program in the Program Files folder and then disabled it so it can't run.

To get Windows Mail to work, you first have to Take Ownership of all the files in the Windows Mail folder, then delete them. Then replace all those Windows Mail files with the like files from an install of Vista.
That works a treat in Win-7, 32 bit, but I have yet to get it working in Win-7, 64 bit.
I don't have the files from Vista 64 to even be able to try it.

Next time I have to work on a Vista 64 PC, I'll snag a copy of those Windows Mail files and just maybe I can get Windows Mail working on my 64 bit install of Win-7.

But why should we have to go through such hackery to just get email?
Email has always been a function of windows, going back as far as I care to remember.

I could copy Solitaire from XP to Vista 32 and it would work just fine.
But, I try the same thing with Windows 7 and it's a NO GO!. Just another big disappointment, because I play Sol every day to keep my hand-eye coordination as acute as possible.

I hope everyone had a good Halloween!

The Doctor Cool
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BudDurland



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject:

Doc, have you tried any of the e-mail alternatives -- Thunderbird, Eudora, TheBat!, etc.. ?
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heavenbound1998



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject:

Doc, Instead of copying files from one version of windows to another just download microsoft's Windows Live Mail Very Happy I use it for msn mail , Gmail and my Isp mail it works great.
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drwho07



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject:

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Doc, have you tried any of the e-mail alternatives -- Thunderbird, Eudora, TheBat!, etc.. ?


WELL, of course I have. But some really wet the bed and others just fall short of the user friendliness of Outlook Express and Windows Mail.
I can easily set up email accounts on O.E. for almost any ISP, but that's not so with Thunderbird, etc.

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Doc, Instead of copying files from one version of windows to another just download microsoft's Windows Live Mail Very Happy I use it for msn mail , Gmail and my Isp mail it works great.


You could almost guess that by now I've also tried that "Windows Live Mail" and all I can safely say is "I hate it!". (all expletives omitted)

I have Win-7 installed and running great on my little Acer Aspire ONE, netbook, with Windows Mail, from a Vista PC, and it's working great.

I don't yet have Windows Mail working on my 64 bit install of Win-7, on my main PD, but I will, eventually. Rolling Eyes Wink Laughing Laughing

It's just a matter of time and I'll have the install of Windows Mail into Win-7, down to a simple batch file, run from my Utilities CD. Wink

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All things come to he who waits!


Cheers Mates!
The Doctor Cool
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bern



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:52 pm    Post subject:

here is a problem that I had in Vista, and I now have it in Win7 Home Premium 64 bit: There exists a folder called "public" which, I suppose is for file sharing, etc. Well, somehow another folder called "public2" got created (I don't know how, but I was playing around trying to get the computer to talk to my old network, so I probably did it somehow). Anyway, "public2" seems to mirror anything that happens in "public" in terms of files added, deleted, etc. Public2 cannot be written to or modified, and it cannot be deleted. (but I could copy Public2 to another location, and was then able to delete the copy). So, what is this chimera, and how do I get rid of it?
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drwho07



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject:

Hmmmm!
Sounds like another topic best posted in the
win7forums.

http://www.sevenforums.com/

Many things that I used to do in XP with just a few mouse clicks are now buried so deep within Win-7 that it takes a major safari, with toters and gun bearers to get to the place where you can change things the way you want them. Laughing

If you set up as many PC's as I do, the time wasted can be in HOURS, not even minutes.

My thanks and even Praise, goes to those guys and gals who have written scripts to accomplish some of these things quickly and easily.

Cheers Mates!
The Doctor Cool
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tbernstein



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject:

LG is so much friendlier than a number of other forums..
There's none of this one-up-manship. No putting people down for asking what you think is a silly question. No pouring scorn on another's concerns. None of this "It's not happening on my system, it must be your fault.."

but, on the other hand........
LG isn't up to speed on Windows 7. Sad
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rovingcowboy



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject:

okay doc don't like windows 7 thats been confirmed.

some others are alright with it for the most part.

me? i'm in need of info on windows 7. i see what doc said is theres no email program?

okay thats one thing.

but will the windows exell and office and word all xp 2002 versions updated to maybe 2007 versions work on windows 7.
my sister don't want to re type here doc's and or re do her ppshows
she just wants to move the old files and old programs to the new windows 7 if she gets one. which she is thinking of getting a laptop and need this info fast,

also what about that XP mode that is in the windows 7. there is one there right? the upgrade checker i got from ms web site said i might be wanting to use the xp mode since my tower does not have all the proper hardware.

so answers to this please.

does windows 7 use all old xp programs from microsoft.
does it use the old file formats.
does it have an xp mode or just a compat mode like xp and vista had.
does old external hardware work with it.
does it support win32
does it use idde hd's or the newer serial one.
is there any hidden bugs that are being hushed up by everyone


please answer this fast i know its thanksgiving but the sale for the comptuer is at 5 am on friday.
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PhotoCarp



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:50 pm    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

rovingcowboy wrote:

does windows 7 use all old xp programs from microsoft.

I haven't encountered any problems with MS products running on a 7 machine. You may want to visit the MS site and download the program that will test the compatibility of your software. OTOH it said that I would not be able to run some non-MS programs that I am running.

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does it use the old file formats.

This has nothing to do with the OS. If the software runs then the files will open in that program.

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does it have an xp mode or just a compat mode like xp and vista had.

Not sure. I believe that the XP mode is something that you need to download from the MS site. Haven't tried that yet. You may want to google that or snoop around the Windows 7 forum.

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does old external hardware work with it.

If and only if there are drivers for it. In most instances you can use the Vista drivers. I had a problem setting up a XP/7 network and a Lexmark AIO that did not have a 7 driver. Worked fine when connected to the 7 machine but the XP machine couldn't print to it and vice versa. Tried a print server and that didn't solve the problem.

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does it support win32

Not sure what you mean by that question. There is a 32 bit version (AKA x86) and a 64 bit version (AKA x64). X64 will run most x86 software. There are some that will not. Google for the specific software that you might be using.

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does it use idde hd's or the newer serial one.

Again, this has nothing to do with the OS. If an IDE or SATA HDD can plug into the mobo then it will work. On newer mobos you may need to install cards to access multiple IDE drives. Another option is putting the HDD in an external enclosure.

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is there any hidden bugs that are being hushed up by everyone

Yes. They are so hidden and hushed up that if I told you then I would have to kill you.

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please answer this fast i know its thanksgiving but the sale for the comptuer is at 5 am on friday.
Cool

Shopping on Black Friday? Either you're very brave or very sick. Shocked
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tbernstein



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

XP mode seems to be tied to the pro versions of Win 7
i.e. not Home anything
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PhotoCarp



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:56 am    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

tbernstein wrote:
XP mode seems to be tied to the pro versions of Win 7

True. But you still need to download it at the Microsoft site.
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goretsky



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Hello,

Please feel free to ask Microsoft Windows 7 related questions in the forum. If no one asks questions about Windows 7, no answers will be posted about it.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky

tbernstein wrote:
LG is so much friendlier than a number of other forums..
There's none of this one-up-manship. No putting people down for asking what you think is a silly question. No pouring scorn on another's concerns. None of this "It's not happening on my system, it must be your fault.."

but, on the other hand........
LG isn't up to speed on Windows 7. Sad
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drwho07



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Location: Central FL, USA

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

I followed the link above, to the Microsoft site, ref. XP Mode.

Well one of the first words that caught my eye was "Virtual".

I don't want Virtual anything. I hate virtual!

In Vista, I could put my menus and screens in "Classic" mode, that made everything look more familiar to old PC users.
Win-7 has NO classic mode. CRAP!

So now we're all sitting here wondering, "What was purchased on Black Friday?"

How did that shopping trip go, Cowboy?

Curious minds want to know!

Doc Cool
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