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Gezzer

Joined: Oct 19, 2008 Posts: 666
Location: Buckinghamshire England
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:11 am Post subject: UK to outline Iraq war inquiry |
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Prime Minister Gordon Brown is set to announce details of an inquiry into the Iraq war in the Commons at 1530 BST.
Opposition parties - and many Labour MPs - have been calling for an inquiry since shortly after the 2003 invasion. |
about time
as most of the UK MPs are fighting for there very survival they may well get around to telling and finding the truth for a change …
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8100432.stm |
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Gezzer

Joined: Oct 19, 2008 Posts: 666
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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kenmabmcc

Joined: Nov 20, 2003 Posts: 8181
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Could it be that too many members of the Brown government,
were involved with the decision to go to war ?
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bern

Joined: Mar 12, 2007 Posts: 1434
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:37 am Post subject: Re: UK to outline Iraq war inquiry [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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It is not quite clear to me what the inquiry is set to find out. It is already public knowledge when troops were authorized, and what members of Parliament voted for and against. And as we all know, "motivation" cannot be determined this far after the fact: People can come up with all kinds of bogus motivations at this time when testifying. |
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Gezzer

Joined: Oct 19, 2008 Posts: 666
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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the inquiry is based on the intel used with regard the reasoning why we went to war
as already proven at 4 other closed door inquiry's the intel was poor and unreliable this has already been established
what the inquiry is meant to establish is the content of the intel and did the politicians know it was unreliable
as they have chosen, again, to hold this inquiry behind closed doors and not in public it is perceived to be a whitewash and a cover up over the content of intel
also under our foi (freedom of information) only matters of our national security can be withheld from any public inquiry
as the intel in question is US based there is no reason this information in regard to its content can not be heard in public in the UK as US security is not covered under our foi … |
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bern

Joined: Mar 12, 2007 Posts: 1434
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| as the intel in question is US based |
Are you saying that British Intelligence gathers no information of its own in that part of the world? As a member of Parliament, I would be most curious to know why the British Intelligence agencies had no information for that area, and if they did have information, how it differed, if it did, from the US version.
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| there is no reason this information in regard to its content can not be heard in public in the UK as US security is not covered under our foi … |
Surely there are mutual agreements. Imagine if the US were to have published sensitive information about activities by and against the IRA on the grounds that it didn't matter to US law. |
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Gezzer

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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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all intel at the enquiry will remain behind closed doors at this time yours and ours
we will push for another inquiry after this one in regard to the release of intel yours and ours under foi
if our troops go to war on intel then that intel under are foi is supposed to be in the public domain regardless of the content or the source unless deemed as national security
as a decision by our parliament based on that intel was made to send troops to war then the information is required to be released under our foi as long as our troops are no longer engaged then there is no national security issue, for us.
the biggest pay roller for the IRA was the USA … |
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CowpokeBob

Joined: Feb 07, 2006 Posts: 1501
Location: South Carolina, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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all intel at the enquiry will remain behind closed doors at this time yours and ours
we will push for another inquiry after this one in regard to the release of intel yours and ours under foi
if our troops go to war on intel then that intel under are foi is supposed to be in the public domain regardless of the content or the source unless deemed as national security
as a decision by our parliament based on that intel was made to send troops to war then the information is required to be released under our foi as long as our troops are no longer engaged then there is no national security issue, for us.
the biggest pay roller for the IRA was the USA … |
Good Luck with that. |
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