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seaeagle
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 Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: Tour de France winner fails drug test |
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Tour de France winner failed drug test in race - Tour de France - MSNBC.com
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Tour de France champion Floyd Landis tested positive for high levels of testosterone during the race, his Phonak team said Thursday on its Web site.
The statement came a day after the UCI, cycling’s world governing body, said an unidentified rider had failed a drug test during the Tour.
The Swiss-based Phonak team said it was notified by the UCI on Wednesday that Landis’ sample showed “an unusual level of testosterone/epitestosterone” when he was tested after stage 17 of the race last Thursday.
Landis made a remarkable comeback in that Alpine stage, racing far ahead of the field for a solo win that moved him from 11th to third in the overall standings. He regained the leader’s yellow jersey two days later.
Other links: Landis gives positive drugs test, Landis fails drug test, Phonak team says Tour de France winner Floyd Landis tests positive |
As if the sport hadn't been damaged enough by all of the suspensions just before the Tour. |
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Gary66
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| Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Tour de France winner fails drug test [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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seaeagle
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| Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Tour de France winner fails drug test [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| I still don't like his chances. Of course a denial would be issued - he's hardly going to make an admission before the B-sample is tested. |
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Gary66
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Tour de France winner fails drug test [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| seaeagle wrote: |
| I still don't like his chances. Of course a denial would be issued - he's hardly going to make an admission before the B-sample is tested. |
The other guy was found not to have taken drugs. Now I don't follow this "sport" so I don't really care but doping is a major problem in every sport but Golf.
If Barry Bonds is not on steroids then I am The King of Siam. He will be indicted the next term of the Grand Jury. The trainer that knows everything had to be released as the GJ's term expired. The next term is for two years. Do you think he will sit in jail for two years to protect Barry Bonds?
I don't unless he is being paid off by Bonds.  |
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seaeagle
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Tour de France winner fails drug test [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Sports Illustrated has just put out a list of the top 10 cheating controversies (baseball seems to be a very common factor): SI.com - Photo Gallery - Cheating Controversies. |
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seaeagle
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Tour de France winner fails drug test [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Things aren't looking good for Flandis at all:
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New Finding Challenges Tour Champion’s Claim - New York Times
Tests performed on the cyclist Floyd Landis’s initial urine sample showed that some of the testosterone in his body had come from an external source and was not produced by his system, according to a person at the International Cycling Union with knowledge of the results.
That finding contradicts what Landis has claimed in his defense since the disclosure last week that he had tested positive for an elevated ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone during the Tour de France.
During a news conference in Madrid on Friday, Landis said, “We will explain to the world why this is not a doping case, but a natural occurrence.” He explained that the testosterone levels throughout his career were “natural and produced by my own organism.” |
I actually feel disappointed - I sat up most nights watching the race live (usually finished around 2:30 am), so it feels very much like it was a waste of time now. |
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Gary66
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Tour de France winner fails drug test [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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You stayed up until 2:30AM watching this  Yes it was a waste of time. You could have been dreaming of:
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seaeagle
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Tour de France winner fails drug test [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Good point  |
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kenmabmcc
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: Re: Tour de France winner fails drug test [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Landis returns positive B sample
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| The analysis of Landis' B sample took place at France's national laboratory at Chatenay-Malabry in the presence of the American's Spanish lawyer, Jose Maria Buxeda, and experts from the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) and the UCI. |
Next to the Court of Arbitration for Sport ? |
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Sgt Schultz
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Tour de France winner fails drug test [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| kenmabmcc wrote: |
| Next to the Court of Arbitration for Sport ? |
It's too late. No matter how many appeals or denials the taint is there and he'll never be able to recover from it. It's a shame that he had to resort to cheating but he took the chance but got caught so it's time to take the consequences. |
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seaeagle
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Tour de France winner fails drug test [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| kenmabmcc wrote: |
| Next to the Court of Arbitration for Sport ? |
I really can't see him having any chance. If it was just high levels of testosterone, maybe he would have something to appeal. But the fact that they found synthetic testosterone not produced by the human body I think destroys any chance he had of getting out of this one.
It's just very sad for what was one of the greatest sporting competitions in the world. |
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seaeagle
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: Tour de France winner fails drug test [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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I am the Tour champion - Pereiro
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Spaniard Oscar Pereiro declared himself the true Tour de France champion after confirmation of a positive dope test for yellow jersey winner Floyd Landis.
The International Cycling Union (UCI) is set to strip Landis of the title.
Pereiro, who finished second, 57 seconds adrift, said the fact that he now stands to win the race by default would not diminish his own achievement.
"Right now I feel like the winner of the Tour de France," Pereiro said. "It's a victory for the whole team. |
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seaeagle
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Tour de France winner fails drug test [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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For those who may be interested in the more scientific side of doping, here's a good write-up about why Landis could have failed the drug test on only one occasion during the race:
Blogcritics.org: Floyd Landis Failed Test, Now Flails At WADA And UCI
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In the Landis case, don’t forget that in Stage 16 he finished about eight and a half minutes off of the pace. Landis was the leader of the Tour at this late stage of the race, and he was considered to be in command. Looking back, Landis’ awful showing in Stage 16 should have been as much of a red flag as was his remarkable performance in Stage 17.
Landis’ crash in Stage 16 could have been caused by a minor mistake in whatever regimen that he was following. Did he forget to apply his testosterone gel or did his patch fall off before the day’s dosage of test was delivered? Or was someone on Landis’ team monitoring his ratio throughout the tour, and did this monitoring indicate that Floyd’s ratio was in danger of getting out of line, necessitating that he forego his daily doses sometime around Stage 16?
We’ll never know for sure unless Floyd decides to 'fess up. But just as sure as a foul up with regard to his preparation resulted in his failed test after Stage 17, an equally fatal foul up occurred sometime prior to Stage 16.
As a result of Stage 16, it’s not unreasonable to conclude that Landis overreacted to this crash. Whether he overdid his testosterone application or went overboard with his LH dose, his miscalculations were fatal. Perhaps Landis’ lame “blame the booze” excuse could be valid in that his drinking binge threw a monkey wrench into his doping binge.
Or perhaps Landis felt that he was so out of contention that he could ramp up his dosage because there was no way that he could make up all that lost ground in just one stage, and probably wouldn’t get tested because there was no way that he could win the stage. Maybe Landis surprised himself by turning in such a great performance in which he not only won the stage, but regained the yellow jersey. |
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tiberiu
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| For some sportsmen this doping issue is something like russian roulette: if they catch me, well I lost, if they don't, I win... I guess he lost this time. |
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