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hamhox



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:47 pm    Post subject: Toshiba Laptop 'system save' partition

I have a Toshiba A75-s1253 laptop which came with no hard drive. I plan to use the 12GB drive out of my older Toshiba 1605CDS laptop. When I set up the drive for W98SE on the latter unit, I was unaware of the system's need for a separate partition for saving the 'system state' when the unit goes into hibernation. Consequently, when the hibernation timeout occurred, there was a problem getting the unit to resume operation afterward. My question is does the newer machine need the hibernate partition, and how do I determine the appropriate size for it?
I plan to install W2K sp4 if I can get the machine to work.

Thanks

Eric Schell
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zlim



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject:

As far as I can remember, I did not have a separate partition for the hibernation.
The file is called hiberfil.sys and every time I defragged, I ran into a problem with that.
Info on hiberfils.sys http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernate_(OS_feature)
note it says file or separate partition. I'm sure I had a file because my hard drive was not partitioned. (ME on an HP notebook; I later partitioned it with Partition Magic so I could install 2K to try).
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drwho07



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Location: Central FL, USA

PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject:

Why would anyone even use "Hibernation" ???

I won't , never have, and never will !
Why complicate your life, with something so problematical?

The internet help forums are full of complaints from people that their computer went into hibernation and never came back. Evil or Very Mad

Then there's that huge "Hiberfil.sys" file........cheeeeeech!
Just one more thing to BLOAT your HD.
And, something that needs to be deleted before you can do a backup of C:.

If you're not using your PC, just turn it off.
It will still respect you in the morning. Wink Laughing Laughing

Happy Holidays Everyone!

The Doctor Cool
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goretsky



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Location: Southern California

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject:

Hello,

The two reasons I can think of to use hibernation are to save power and to more quickly be able to use the computer after powering up the system.

There have been a lot of issues with hardware not being recognized or returning to the proper state after coming back from hibernation due to issues with device drivers or BIOS level settings, but those problems have been fairly rare for equipment manufactured recently (the past 4-5 years or so), most likely due to improved understanding of hibernation and better testing of device drivers.

Like DrWho07, I do not make use of hibernation myself, but that's more because I prefer to start a computing session with a just-initialized environment, not because of concerns about coming out of hibernation or backup sizes. Plus, I can use the time required to boot-up to get a cup of coffee.


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Aryeh Goretsky
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drwho07



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject:

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Plus, I can use the time required to boot-up to get a cup of coffee.


My sentiments exactly!

My computer, the way I've got it set up, does some maintenance during the boot up process.
From my Startup folder, I run my own patented "XPCleanup.bat" program to clean out all the crapola from my last session, then I run the script to force a new restore point and finally I run the shortcut to Outlook Express to go get my email.

I also have O.E. set to tell me "you've got mail" in a friendly female voice when it's done receiving mail. The whole process takes around a minute and that does give me time to step into the kitchen and prepare my cup for my morning shot of caffeine.

As I've said so many times before.....XP needs to be shut down on a regular basis, to do some internal maintenance, like updating the master registry on the HD.

I'm not totally ignorant of the fact that some people have home businesses and leave their computers on all night so they can receive faxes.
Unless they want to manually reboot their computer once a day, they can program a reboot shortcut into their Task Scheduler to reboot the PC sometime during the night. The syntax for the reboot shortcut is:

%windir%\System32\shutdown.exe -r -t 00 -f

I just sleep a whole lot better knowing that my computer is safely turned OFF.

Happy Holidays Everyone!
The Doctor Cool

PS: The syntax for a quick shutdown shortcut for your desktop is:

%windir%\System32\shutdown.exe -s -t 00 -f

* Both shortcuts work for Vista too.
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