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Vdubjetta
Joined: Sep 06, 2003
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| Hi all, this is my first post on the Lockergnome boards.
Be gentle.
I guess I haven't found the "right" aggregator yet, cause I still "don't get it". Even using a reader, I find myself going to the webpage anyhow. I can do that just as easily with the web browser alone. Anyone else have the same experience?
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Bloglines
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| I guess I haven't found the "right" aggregator yet, cause I still "don't get it". Even using a reader, I find myself going to the webpage anyhow. I can do that just as easily with the web browser alone. Anyone else have the same experience? |
Welcome! I think it really depends on how many sites you visit. If you only visit a couple of sites on a regular basis, then I think you're correct, going to the web site directly is just as easy. In my case, however, I found myself visiting more and more sites on a regular basis, and it was taking longer and longer. For me, using Bloglines saves me a lot of time, since I now have about 130 subscriptions. I couldn't follow a quarter of that number of sites without using an aggregator.
Mark
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Sgt Schultz
Joined: Dec 07, 2002
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Location: St. Louis area
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| I guess I haven't found the "right" aggregator yet, cause I still "don't get it". Even using a reader, I find myself going to the webpage anyhow. I can do that just as easily with the web browser alone. Anyone else have the same experience? |
I guess I don't get it yet either so you are not alone. Nothing I've seen with RSS has convinced me that it's the way to go (for me at least). |
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gsterry
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Okay, I'll jump in... yeah, I tried the 'Newbie' thing and saw that the .NET stuff was needed :unsure: and backed off.
Guess I'll poke around in the RSS forum a bit more :blink: |
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Bloglines
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Okay, I'll jump in... yeah, I tried the 'Newbie' thing and saw that the .NET stuff was needed :unsure: and backed off.
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I humbly suggest that you try Bloglines, our web-based aggregator. No messy downloads, no beta software, no fees, and more features than other aggregators. We're a great way to 'get your feet wet' with RSS. 
Thanks,
Mark
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gsterry
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Thanks... I've given it a go and found a few 'subscriptions' :unsure:
Guess we'll see what happens next :huh:
Thanks for the tip! |
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admiraljustin
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Other than the size of it, there really isn't anything wrong with .NET. I even took the time to download the .NET 1.1 SDK... of course, I'm teaching myself a .NET language, so having the SDK is a bit of a help, it still has the same core. Alot of newer indie apps are coming from .NET setups, it's kind of the wave of the future.
I myself use SharpReader, which is a .NET application. Even so, it does everything that I need an aggregator to do, which makes me very happy with it. |
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gsterry
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| Other than the size of it, there really isn't anything wrong with .NET |
Thanks for the clarification. |
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fuzzygroup
Joined: Aug 24, 2003
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Hi,
Mark Fletcher is right -- it all depends on the # of sites you track. One or two? A browser is fine. Even for 10 or 20 you can get away with it. But as the number rises, the value of an aggregator rises even more.
If you don't like .net, two options are:
FeedDemon from http://www.bradsoft.com/
RSS Reader Panel for Firebird from http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/
The 2nd requires FireBird.
Scott |
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admiraljustin
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Mark Fletcher is right -- it all depends on the # of sites you track. One or two? A browser is fine. Even for 10 or 20 you can get away with it. But as the number rises, the value of an aggregator rises even more.
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From my "forced to remain on Dial-UP" standpoint, the value of an aggregator starts at about 6 feeds, Where it would take me about 45 minutes to check on all the feeds (currently about 20), it takes me about 3 to get everything I need through the aggregator. |
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Vdubjetta
Joined: Sep 06, 2003
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OK, now I understand. I don't read very many sites every day. Thanks for clearing that up.
On a slight tangent, sounds like this RSS thing could be worse than "Evercrack". 130 sites a day?!
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emjayef
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I myself use SharpReader, which is a .NET application. Even so, it does everything that I need an aggregator to do, which makes me very happy with it. |
Hi,
I've been poking around, and have settled for now also on SharpReader. It seems to be the right combination of simple and good enough. I'm thinking of setting it up for my 16 yr old son, to save time on schoolwork, and maybe avoid some hassles of browsers.
His first question was one I'm not sure of: Do the articles stay on the local computer once read? I wasn't sure if it's a link to a remote page or like traditional email in that it stays around until deleted. I'm sure I'll find out eventually, but I'd like to know now. Anyone know this?
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gsterry
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:57 am Post subject: |
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| Do the articles stay on the local computer once read? |
Hmm, good question... I'm going to guess that if you bookmark the article, then it should stay put :unsure: |
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admiraljustin
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| His first question was one I'm not sure of: Do the articles stay on the local computer once read? I wasn't sure if it's a link to a remote page or like traditional email in that it stays around until deleted. I'm sure I'll find out eventually, but I'd like to know now. Anyone know this? |
I believe it uses the IE caching... but I'll find out, as soon as I redownload SP1a and reinstall .NET 1.1 SDK |
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emjayef
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Do the articles stay on the local computer once read? |
Hmm, good question... I'm going to guess that if you bookmark the article, then it should stay put :unsure: |
I'm not sure what you mean by bookmark - is that a reader-specific feature? SharpReader does have a context-menu item called "Lock Item", but I don't know yet what that does. I locked one item, so maybe I'll eventually find out.
Nobody can say RTFM for this, as I read the whole page of the manual, and didn't find anything. 
Thanks,
Marty
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gsterry
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Sorry, Marty, but yeah 'bookmark' is a Bloglines reader specific thing.
Maybe the "Lock Item" is the same thing :unsure:
Guess we can develop the manuals, eh? |
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Magic Speller
Joined: Oct 21, 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Do the articles stay on the local computer once read? |
Late jumping in here, but...
Whether or not the articles stay depends on the reader. Most of them, it seems, have an autoexpire feature, so that they're removed after a certain number of days.
Some, like FeedDemon, allow you to choose those you want to keep. This, to me, is an important feature.
Keith
P.S. This is the kind of discussion, I think, that should be in the "News Aggregators" forum. The problem is that there's no forum there for a general aggregator discussion such as this. How about it, moderators? |
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teaman2000
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:03 am Post subject: |
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It depends on what aggregator you use. Some will keep an archive of the RSS items you've read. Others don't. Bloglines, the web-based aggregator, lets you search through your all the items in your feeds. Other aggregators let you save items you're interested in. There's no standard.
If you find an article you are interested, and read it, you should be able to bookmark (or add to favorites) in your browser.
As has been said elsewhere, there's no reason to feel you need .NET to get a good aggregator. There's plenty of good options that don't require .NET. One that's pretty straightforward and available for all platforms is Amphetadesk. Or Bloglines. |
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ploesch
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'm quickly becoming a proponent of RSS. Here is the deal as I see it.
Once you become comfortable you will find yourself subscribing to as many feeds that interest you as you can take, the scary thing is that in the time it takes you to visit 1 site, you could have read all the information from feeds in 5 sites.
Find a reader that works best for you, once you find the right reader the fee will seem like a small price, and most readers offer a free trial. I use Newsgator because it fully integrates with Outlook. NewsGator provides the best experience for me.
RSS was intended to show headlines, description of article and a link to the article. Some feeds actually follow this, mostly news sites. Most blogs and other feeds give the full article.
Once you start using the right reader for you, you won't want to go back to the old way, and will want more feeds.
Just my 2 cents. |
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gsterry
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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