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kenmabmcc

Joined: Nov 20, 2003
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: Republican Terrorist Links

"distinguished scholar"

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The campaign season's hottest gotcha game -- six degrees of William Ayers -- has suddenly become a bit more complicated for John McCain and the Republican Party.

It turns out that Ayers, a 60s-era radical and former Weathermen member, is linked to GOP Gov. Mark Sanford through their work for the University of South Carolina.

Republicans must be terrorists too....?

Laughing

pasquanel

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject:

The Huffington Post? Laughing

Now there's a publication I would quote Laughing

All this time I thought you were serious Wink

kenmabmcc

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

pasquanel wrote:

The Huffington Post? Laughing

Now there's a publication I would quote Laughing

All this time I thought you were serious Wink

Have they got it wrong ?

Rolling Eyes

xavierx

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

The rest of the story (from that "unbiased" link)

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Since 2005, Ayers has held the title of "distinguished scholar" at USC for participating in an education project. He has attended various university events, been praised highly by school administrators, even published columns on university's website. Meanwhile, Sanford holds the position of Ex-Officio Chairman of USC's Board of Trustees.

True, that "link" is basically meaningless; no one suggests that Sanford endorses anything that Ayers has said or done over the years.

But that's precisely the point, according to the Obama campaign, which is gearing up for another round of Ayers coverage on Tuesday, when records are released for an education group that Obama chaired and Ayers co-founded.

Ah, so this is why they had to make up a link. Trying to minimize damage? What does Obama know is in there that he doesn't want us to see or focus on?

kenmabmcc

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Reagan Palled Around with Terrorists

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McCain, who was elected to the House of Representatives in 1982, was, of course, an enthusiastic supporter of the Afghan â€œfreedom fightersâ€ and the â€œReagan Doctrineâ€ that supported them and other insurgent groups in countries Washington considered to be Soviet clients in the 1980s. As reported in a very good article by the Associated Press earlier this week, McCain served on the board of advisers of the U.S. section of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL), the Phoenix-based U.S. Council for World Freedom, through at least 1984 and, according to his account, asked to have his name removed from the Councilâ€™s letterhead in 1986 (presumably just as the Iran-Contra scandal, in which the Councilâ€™s chief, ret. Gen. John Singlaub, played a key role), was breaking. As noted by AP, States News Service placed McCain at a Washington Council event that honored one of Hekmatyarâ€™s comrades in 1985.

xavierx

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Boy, you must be getting scared, Ken.

kenmabmcc

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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:09 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

All these republicans palling up with terrorists, what is the world coming to...?

ejward

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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

xavierx wrote:

The rest of the story (from that "unbiased" link)

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Ah, so this is why they had to make up a link. Trying to minimize damage? What does Obama know is in there that he doesn't want us to see or focus on?

That's the defense? But Obama not "endorsing anything that Ayers has said or done over the years" is no defense? Why? Because it's Obama?

ejward

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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:44 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

kenmabmcc wrote:

Reagan Palled Around with Terrorists

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mommabear

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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

I've been hearing about this coming up, if McCain kept harping on past associations. So here's my contribution. Wink

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Convictions, pardons, and reinstatements

Oliver North and John Poindexter were indicted on multiple charges on March 16, 1988.[54] North, indicted on 16 counts, was found guilty by a jury of three minor counts. The convictions were vacated on appeal on the grounds that North's Fifth Amendment rights may have been violated by the indirect use of his testimony to Congress which had been given under a grant of immunity. In 1990, Poindexter was convicted on several felony counts of conspiracy, lying to Congress, obstruction of justice, and altering and destroying documents pertinent to the investigation. His convictions were also overturned on appeal on similar grounds. Arthur L. Liman served as chief counsel for the Senate during the Iran-Contra Affair.[55]

The Independent Counsel, Lawrence E. Walsh, chose not to re-try North or Poindexter. Caspar Weinberger was indicted for lying to the Independent Counsel but was later pardoned by President George H. W. Bush.[56]

In 1992 George H. W. Bush pardoned six convicted administration officials, namely Elliott Abrams, Duane R. Clarridge, Alan Fiers, Clair George, Robert McFarlane, and Caspar Weinberger.[57]

George W. Bush selected some individuals that served under Reagan for high-level posts in his presidential administration.[58][59] They include:

* Elliott Abrams:[60] under Bush, the Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director on the National Security Council for Near East and North African Affairs; in Iran-Contra, pleaded guilty on two counts of unlawfully withholding information, pardoned.

* Otto Reich:[61] head of the Office of Public Diplomacy under Reagan.

* John Negroponte:[62] under Bush, served as the Ambassador to Iraq, the National Intelligence Director, and the Deputy Secretary of State.

* Admiral John Poindexter:[63] under Bush, Director of the Information Awareness Office; in Iran-Contra, found guilty of multiple felony counts for conspiracy, obstruction of justice, lying to Congress, defrauding the government, and the alteration and destruction of evidence, convictions reversed.

In Poindexter's hometown of Odon, Indiana, a street was renamed to John Poindexter Street. Bill Breedan, a former minister, stole the street's sign in protest of the Iran-Contra Affair. He claimed that he was holding it for a ransom of $30 million, in reference to the amount of money given to Iran to transfer to the contras. He was later arrested and confined to prison, making him, as satirized by Howard Zinn, "the only person to be imprisoned as a result of the Iran-Contra affair."[64]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_Affair#Convictions.2C_pardons..._and_re

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By contrast, earlier this year McCainâ€™s campaign embraced Oliver Northâ€™s endorsement of McCain and proudly sent it out to reporters. To its credit, the Washington Post blog asked the McCain campaign a question: "Is McCain pleased to receive North's endorsement, given the fact that the failed GOP senatorial candidate was convicted in 1989 of shredding documents, accepting an illegal gratuity and aiding and abetting in the obstruction of Congress?" McCainâ€™s campaign refused to answer.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/17/164627/033?new=true

That prompted The Trail to ponder a simple question: Is McCain pleased to receive North's endorsement, given the fact that the failed GOP senatorial candidate was convicted in 1989 of shredding documents, accepting an illegal gratuity and aiding and abetting in the obstruction of Congress? ...

The McCain campaign's response? "We'll let the comments in the release stand," wrote spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker in an e-mail. "Thanks."

John McCain was also a bit player in Ollie's 1994 Senate race. In June, just after Ollie was nominated by a Republican convention to take on Chuck Robb, many Republicans balked and refused to support North. Bob Dole and John McCain were both interviewed on CBS's "Face the Nation" on June 5. Dole said he wouldn't support North and would instead meet with J. Marshall Coleman, a former Republican attorney general running as an independent. That sent huge shock waves through Virginia. McCain said he would support North but offered disparaging words about his chances of winning that were seen as an additional shot by national Republicans who clearly didn't want him. Here's what McCain said on the show:

"I know nothing illegal or unconstitutional that took place in the Virginia Republican Party's process of selecting their nominee. I'll support their nominee and it's -- clearly, it's Colonel North at this time. And by the way, I'm the person that called for the resignation of the governor of this state, who was of my party. But I don't see anything wrong with the process. I think from a clear political standpoint, our chances of winning that seat are dramatically diminished. There's no doubt about that. But I respect the views and decision of the Virginia Republican Party."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/12/mccain_camp_touts_...ie_nort

And then there's Liddy, of Watergate fame. Didn't Liddy plot to shoot somebody? Why, yes. Yes, he did.

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Liddy, who worked for President Nixon's campaign, was convicted and sentenced to 20 years in prison for multiple crimes in burglarizing the Democratic National Committee office in the Watergate building--part of a broader plot to steal the 1972 election through sabotage, illegal spying and other dirty tricks. He even planned the murder of a journalist, though that idea was overruled. Bombings? He proposed the firebombing of a liberal think tank.

Liddy, now a conservative radio host, has never expressed regret for this attempt to subvert the Constitution. Nor has he developed any respect for the law. After the 1993 raid on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, he endorsed the shooting of federal agents: "Kill the sons of bitches."

Yet none of this bothers McCain. Liddy has contributed thousands of dollars to his campaigns, held a fundraiser for McCain at his home and hosted the senator on his radio show, where McCain said, "I'm proud of you." Exactly which part of Liddy's record is McCain proud of?

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/steve_chapman/2008/10/mccain-has-his.html

People who live in glass houses....

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