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bern

Joined: Mar 12, 2007 Posts: 1432
Location: ann arbor
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: Reformatting/reinstalling |
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When I ran Win98, I used to backup, and then reinstall Windows from scratch every 6 months or so when the computer got flakey or slow.
I have been running my present install of WinXP sp2 for several years with no trouble. In fact, I have been quite happy. But in the last several months, I have been getting increased flakeyness that I have been able to correct, but I am getting the idea that a reinstall might be a Good Thing to do.
I have backed up all my data to a different hard drive, I have the install programs and keywords of my main programs backed up to CDs, and am ready to do a complete format of my hard drive to map out bad cylinders, etc, and I am prepared to use my laptop for a couple of days while everything gets reinstalled and reconfigured.
Now my question: What is the best strategy, in your estimation, to do this? Use the Windows CD to format the drive? Use something else? What next, etc..
thanks
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clhenry

Joined: Feb 13, 2003 Posts: 9051
Location: West by god Virginia
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Bern the windows XP disk will do just as good of a job as any after market. But i wonder why you don't just do a repair install? That will replace all window components without losing any personal data. Of course you will have to update windows afterwards.
I have used the repair option on many computers, and it has never failed to clean up and or repair any problems with the operating systems.
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bern

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| clhenry wrote: |
Bern the windows XP disk will do just as good of a job as any after market. But i wonder why you don't just do a repair install? That will replace all window components without losing any personal data. Of course you will have to update windows afterwards.
I have used the repair option on many computers, and it has never failed to clean up and or repair any problems with the operating systems. |
Thanks for the suggestion. I had thought of that, and perhaps I will do it as a first approximation. I recall from the Win98 days that doing a repair left the bloated directory in place, and often did not replace all elements of Windows. It basically picked and chose what it wanted to replace. And so, often problems were not solved by a repair that were solved by a total reformat. Maybe WinXP has a better repair facility?
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Werebo

Joined: Aug 09, 2003 Posts: 4078
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Whereas a repair/install will 'refresh' WinXP and restore it to it's original glory, it won't delete all the 'junk' that gets scattered around - the stuff that disk-cleaners don't pick up on etc.
A format and fresh install of just the software you use will!! Either way, the longest job will be the Windows updates/patches/bodge-ups
PS The WinXP format utility on the installation CD will do the job just fine  |
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goretsky

Joined: Dec 07, 2002 Posts: 9041
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: Re: Reformatting/reinstalling [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Hello,
If you are concerned about the state of the hard disk drive, you may wish to first run the hard disk drive manufacturer's diagnostic software and perform any low-level "destructive" testing of the disk. Afterwards, you should be able to use their utility program to partition the hard disk drive and format the disk volume(s). When finished, you can then boot from your Microsoft Windows XP installation disc and begin installing the operating system to the freshly-formatted hard disk drive.
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drwho07

Joined: Nov 29, 2007 Posts: 1546
Location: Central FL, USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Reformatting/reinstalling [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Duh! Why not just clean up your drive?
I run XP-Pro, year after year with NO slowdowns or BSOD's, etc.,
with nothing more than a good weekly maintenance (cleanup).
I'm reminded of the old joke about the guy who traded off his six month old car. A friend asked "why did you trade off that almost new car?" and the man replied, "because the ashtrays were full."
He paid dearly for his own laziness.
I ran Windows 98 and later 98/SE from their release till I updated to XP a few years ago, with NEVER a reformat.
All that's required is running a few simple programs once a week to keep your HD clean and running smoothly.
Don't forget Chkdsk and Defrag.
I simplify that process some, by putting my own XPcleanup.bat program in my Startup folder, so it runs every day.
Temp files, temporary internet files, and other garbage never get a chance to pile up and adversely effect performance.
But, of course, if you enjoy reformatting your HD and loosing tons of stuff, be my guest! It's just not MY THING.
Cheers Mate!
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bern

Joined: Mar 12, 2007 Posts: 1432
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Reformatting/reinstalling [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| drwho07 wrote: |
Duh! Why not just clean up your drive?
Cheers Mate!
The Doctor |
Because no "cleanup facility" does a perfect job. My experiences with Win98 showed clearly I got better results from the reinstall than from any "cleaning".
But for a final follow up:
I found an unused Hard drive in an old computer I had laying around, swapped it for my existing drive, and did a clean install of WinXP on that. And guess what? the principal problem: non functioning of two DVD burners persisted! So, fearing a motherboard problem, (how likely is it that two DVD burners will fail in the same way at the same time?) I moved a known good DVD burner from my wife's computer, and lo! it worked perfectly. So, I put the old original hard drive back in (with its old operating system intact) and the swapped burner still worked. So, I bought a new burner for $24 and I am momentarily happy as the biggest "glitch" is solved. (unless there is a subtle motherboard problem that will cause my new DVD burner to fail in a short while.)
I still plan to do a "clean install", but had a new idea: 160 gig SATA drives are relatively cheap these days. I will buy one, install it as a second hard drive. I will do the install on that drive, and will be able to move files, address books, etc at leisure, and will always have a fully functional computer available while I am making the switch. My BIOS allows me to choose which hard drive I want to boot from. When I am done, I can do a RAID thing, or some other variant with the extra drive. |
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