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alnuwer

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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: Power On Problem |
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| I have an HP Pavillion that sometimes (more frequently lately) will not power on when I push the power button. To get it started, I have to pull the power cord, wait awhile, and reconnect it. Sometimes, it takes several trys before it starts up. I notice that every time this happens, the clock has stopped somewhere in the middle of the night (I power down each evening after I'm done using it). Any idea what is going on?
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Power On Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Two problems.
Any clock problem (with the system clock in your computer) should tell you it's time to change the little coin-type battery on the motherboard. The first one can go bad at any time,,,,,the replacement usually lasts about four years.
If you're referring to a clock in your house, then that could mean that you are having line power failures, or the clock is defective.
Second problem would be the power supply itself. HP is notorious for installing very Under-powered PSU's in its computers.
Try the battery first, then figure out how you're going to replace the PSU.
HP loves to use proprietary PSU's and you'll likely NOT find one at your neighborhood computer store.
Cheers.
Shadow 
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pcrattail

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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Power On Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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I agree with the second part of what..... TheShadow said...
The Clocks stopping. I presume... is in reguards to your "house" clocks...
IF this is the case, YOU are having... Power surges/fluxes/downage.
Any of the 3 are occurring. On the....downage, by that I mean.. Blackouts
as well as Brownouts.
THESE "home" power problems...could have Messed up the Power Supply
and/or Switch on your PC. Unless you have been using an UPS,
you may have done damage just by keeping it plugged in at night.
Surge Protectors will take care of ONE part, but there are still TWO others.
Both the... fluxes and downage..... can be taken care of by an UPS.
Be prepaired ....... you may STILL have to replace the Power Suply/Switch.
BTW........ I would get an electrician or the electric company itself to check the LINES in your house.
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goretsky

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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:15 am Post subject: Re: Power On Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Hello,
Approximately how old is the Hewlett-Packard Pavillion computer?
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky |
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alnuwer

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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Power On Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Thanks for your thoughts - the clock that stops is the system clock. We have no problems with blackouts or brownouts. I will definately replace the battery and see how things go. Any chance that it could be the reason for the failure to power up? |
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alnuwer

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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Power On Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| goretsky wrote: |
Hello,
Approximately how old is the Hewlett-Packard Pavillion computer?
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky |
It's only about 3 years old. |
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Power On Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| alnuwer wrote: |
| Thanks for your thoughts - the clock that stops is the system clock. We have no problems with blackouts or brownouts. I will definately replace the battery and see how things go. Any chance that it could be the reason for the failure to power up? |
Normally a bad battery will only cause the clock to loose time. The auto hard drive feature on all new mobo's will allow the system to boot properly.
Failure to come on at all is definitely something more sinister. Bad switch, bad Power Supply Unit (PSU) or something like that.
If I had it here on the bench, I'd first replace the battery. That's a two minute and $1 job and I have plenty of batteries here. Then I'd bypass the start switch to see if I could get the system to fire up.
Finally, I'd jack in a new PSU to see if that fixed it.
In all the fuss, don't forget to check the power cord to make sure its connected at both ends, nice and tight.
Good Luck,
Shadow  |
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alnuwer

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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Power On Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Well, we can close this guy out - it got to a point (after I replaced to battery) where it would turn on, but not boot at all. I took it to my friendly service center, and they advised me that the mother board was dead. Now I have a new PC on order.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Al |
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Power On Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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I have an HP PC that was given to me after it appeared to be totally dead.
After it sat around my shop for a month or two, I one day decided to fuss with it a little. I removed the CMOS battery and left it out for about an hour, then replaced it with a brand new one. The system booted right up as normal and has been working ever since.
Sometimes, when a battery gets low, it allows data in the Bios memory chips to become corrupted. Only removing all power from the chips for a time, like 30 minutes or so, will cause the chips to totally forget what was stored in them. Installing a new battery and rebooting the system causes new bios information stored in ROM to be loaded into the Bios ram.
The computer will come up with Defaults loaded. Some customizing of the Bios settings will usually be needed, like setting the clock and drive boot order.
Since this one experience, I've used the same technique to revive several HP systems. It seems to be more of a problem with HP systems than other brands. Go figure!
Good Luck,
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alnuwer

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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Power On Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Wild! Guess I will hold on to it for awhile rather than donating it to Goodwill right away.
Al |
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Power On Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Yeah,,,,remove the little coin type battery for a few hours and then install a new one and see what happens.
I buy those batteries by the dozen for about a buck a piece. Every PC over two years old that crosses my bench, gets a fresh battery.
It's just cheap insurance against Call-Backs.
I usually don't even charge my customer the buck for the battery.
Cheers!
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alnuwer

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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Power On Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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I'll give it a try - after I put it back together (which will be some time now that I am into reconstructing my stuff on my new system).
Thanks for all of your help!
Al |
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