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marusin



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:16 am    Post subject:

Just wondering where everyone is going to be staying? I have a room currently booked at the Edgewater Hotel that is right next door to the Conference Center.

I booked it just to reserve a room (I can cancel within 48 hours of Gnomedex) but was wondering if anyone found any great deals for close by places (or is there one specific hotel that everyone is planning on staying at)...

The lobby scene is always fun at Gnomedex and I want to be smack dab in the middle of it! Smile
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jwhowa



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:40 pm    Post subject:

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I have a room currently booked at the Edgewater Hotel that is right next door to the Conference Center. 


I was going to do the same thing, but MAN $200 a night is pricey! Is that what you had to pay, or is there a better deal to be had for that hotel?

Thanks!
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goretsky



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:43 am    Post subject:

Hello,

I was wondering about this myself.

The last time I checked, the Gnomedex web site had no mention whatsoever of adjoining or even nearby hotels.

Perhaps a member of the forum from Seattle can let us know which hotels are convenient to the Bell Harbor International Conference Center?

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky
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marusin



Joined: Jul 21, 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:46 am    Post subject:

No, unfortunately $200 is the quote I received as well. I booked it just so I have a place to fall back on but really would be interested in a place that is within walking distance where all the gnomies are staying (and is actually affordable!)...

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I have a room currently booked at the Edgewater Hotel that is right next door to the Conference Center. 


I was going to do the same thing, but MAN $200 a night is pricey! Is that what you had to pay, or is there a better deal to be had for that hotel?

Thanks!
-jim
technodaddy.com
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IGGY



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:39 am    Post subject:

Myself and my girlfriend were originally going with the Mariott across the street. So we could get our reward points for their reward program. We signed up for this during Gnomedex 3 in Des Moines. But now we are going with Edgewater. The Discovery channel just did a show the other day on Seattle. It included information and history in regards to the Edgewater hotel. We went with Edgewater in the end because city side rooms are cheaper than the Mariott rooms. We booked online using Expedia.

I'd have to agree that $950 ( inlcudes taxes ) for a 4 night stay at a hotel is pricey. I would have loved to have found something closer to an Iowa price. But nothing seems close to this convention center. And since breakfast and other meals are included. I'd rather not have a long walk or drive every AM to obtain nourishment. So we ended up going with Edgewater.

Do to pricing of the conference. It looks as if this will be the first year my better half doesn't buy a ticket. Which is going to make this vacation / business trip a bit unpleasant for me. As well as adding cost in regards to food. In the end it might be cheaper to just get a ticket. But by the time we will be able to. The show may be sold out. 300 spots should fill up fairly fast I would think.
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lockergnome



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject:

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The last time I checked, the Gnomedex web site had no mention whatsoever of adjoining or even nearby hotels. 
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Wanna bet? Smile

http://www.gnomedex.com/hotels.phtml

Chris
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jwhowa



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject:

Well, I ended up booking my room at the Madison Rennaisance Hotel, about 1 mile from the conference center. I was able to use Marriott rewards for 2 nights, and paid $189/night for the other two nights. I figure two free nights is worth having to take a cab to/from the venue, versus paying $200+ at the Marriott right by the conf center or the Edgewater. Hopefully, being a mile away won't mean I lose too many social opportunities! Smile

If anyone else ends up @ the Rennaisance, give me a shout and we can taxi-pool or something...

BTW, Chris: This BBS needs an RSS feed...

-Jim
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marusin



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject:

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BTW, Chris: This BBS needs an RSS feed...
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Actually, it does have one -> http://help.lockergnome.com/forumrss.php?f=76

I was just wondering if you picked the Madison Rennaisaince rather than the Waterfront Marriott which is located across the street? I was quoted a similar price as what you're paying at this location when I was looking a couple weeks back (and you were mentioning that you were redeeming Marriott points)...
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jwhowa



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:12 pm    Post subject:

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Actually, it does have one ->  http://help.lockergnome.com/forumrss.php?f=76


Oh, Cool!

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I was just wondering if you picked the Madison Rennaisaince


Yes, I picked the Madison for two reasons:

1- Cheaper per night by $20
2- It is a class 5 hotel rather than a class 6 relating to Marriott Rewards points, which means I got two nights for 38000 points, rather than 54000 points... It's all about the benjamins! Smile
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websage



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:30 pm    Post subject:

I chose The Warwick Hotel saved about 40-50 a night and it has Wifi Very Happy

you can check out a map at http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=47.614685,-...+WA+98121&hl=en

I just love google maps...

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ocomik



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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:58 pm    Post subject:

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I chose The Warwick Hotel saved about 40-50 a night and it has Wifi  Very Happy

you can check out a map at http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=47.614685,-...+WA+98121&hl=en

I just love google maps...
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Edgewater here... It beats trying to figure out how I'm going to get to the venue...

Looks like I'm arriving Wednesday afternoon... through Sunday.
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marcerickson



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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject:

I did a bunch of research last night. I can't see paying $200 a night or even $100 a night just to SLEEP for God's sake!

The conference centre (sorry, I'm Canadian) is basically at the corner of Alaskan Way and Wall Street.

Any of the downtown hotels will be expensive - that's the way it is in a large city. The cheapest downtown hotel - and it's within walking distance (provided your laptop case doesn't weigh 30 lbs. like mine does) is the Moore Hotel. $62 single, $69 - $79 double (one bed/two) or - if you can handle having the bath and facilities down the hall - $45 or $55. Cable TV - but no Internet Sad. The theatre is on the National Register for Historic Places - I saw an Indigo Girls concert there in ~ 1989 - and is cool. The hotel - according to the site - looks clean but it might have theadbare carpets - I haven't stayed there. It would be an experience as it was built in 1907 - lots of marble - much of the finishing is from that time.

I also looked at Google Maps Local Search (click on the Local Search link) using the keyword motel and found several places within reasonable cab or driving distance (or maybe walking). Anything that is close to Seattle Center (the Space Needle) is fairly close to the conference centre. And Hwy. 99 north of Denny Way (Aurora Ave N.) is a mixed commercial strip with several places on it or not too far from it. In fact I'd guess that if you don't mind budget accommodations you could find something around the $50 - $70 range just by driving up Aurora - and it won't be on the Web.

Me? I'm staying at a campground near Lake Sammamish for $20 - or I'm sleeping in my car. I billed a thousand bucks in my computer repair business last month and so far about $400 this month - the business just fell off of the table. A thousand is barely enough to pay my rent and phone bill - it doesn't pay the electric or heat and it doesn't feed me. It should get better - but it may not be for a couple of months - so I have to economize if I want to be at Gnomedex.
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raines



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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 12:40 pm    Post subject:

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Just wondering where everyone is going to be staying? [right][snapback]245903[/snapback][/right]


This may not directly address your underlying meta-question ("where should I stay"), but perhaps provide inspiration for other creative approaches: I'll be staying 5 miles away (a 15-minute express bus ride with half a mile total walk), feeding the fish for an absent owner of a unit at Jackson Place Cohousing. Cost: $0, but I'll help make/clean up after Thursday's common dinner there and perhaps assist the community in some other way. Benefits: Lots of new friends and deeper connections in a topic area I'm already deeply involved in.

Raines

P.S. More inspiration for creative GnomeDexers (GnomeDexen?): the conference center is not far from a ferry terminal, with fast, frequent (but not necessarily compatible with hackers hours), inexpensive commuter trips to many nearby islands. Seattle has an extensive transit system, with long hours on many bus routes, as well as light rail, commuter rail service, not to mention a cool regional Amtrak line with tilting trains (check out the 2-for-the-price-of-1 deal on trips to Portland, and the Alaska Airlines miles earning/burning potential), and some incredibly discounted trains running across the state ($25 clear to the other side, very scenic) and 25% off up and down the coast and a cross-promotion through hotels.com good for a $25 rebate on a 2-night stay combined with rail. Oh yeah, and a monorail!
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BuzzDroid



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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:07 pm    Post subject:

I see a bunch of you are staying 4 nights and I'm trying to figure out why. According to http://www.mollyguard.com/event/16437164 the conference doesn't start until 5pm on June 23, so there is no reason to spend June 22 in a hotel.

With that said, I'm having trouble finding any information on the gnomedex.com site as to schedule. The closest I could find was the mollyguard registration page. Does the conference really start at 5pm on June 23 as suggested on the registration page?

By the way, I'm currently leaning toward staying at the SpringHill Suites Seattle Downtown at $132 night.
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dmethvin



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:58 am    Post subject:

I know that Priceline has gotten some bad publicity, but I have used it several times for hotels. I was just out in Seattle in April and used it for that trip. I got three nights in the Marriott Renaissance on Madison for $80/night. They have the typical ripoff $10/day extra charge for Internet access and unlimited phone, but since the Seattle Public Library is just a block away I used their free WiFi instead.

If you haven't used Priceline for hotels before, the way it works is that you select an area, a hotel quality level, and a price. They try to find a hotel that will accept your bid. If they can't you have to change your bid in some way; either raise the price, change the area, or lower the desired hotel quality. You can resubmit the same bid but you have to wait 72 (I think) hours. There is no guarantee you'll get a specific hotel no matter what you do though, and your credit card is charged as soon as the bid is accepted.

In Seattle, you'll want to select Downtown Seattle as your only area if you are trying for walking distance. For my bid I selected 3-star and 4-star hotels and $80, the bid was accepted by the Renaissance first time. There are a lot of good hotels in the same area and most of it is walkable to the Convention center, 8 blocks or so. The far west end near the Space Needle is a very long walk (although I've done it several times) but there is a monorail that will take you from the Space Needle to the downtown area close to the Convention Center.

If you're looking for more info on Priceline bidding and tips on the right price to bid, try BiddingForTravel.com,
http://p070.ezboard.com/fpricelineandexpediabiddingseattle

BTW, for getting from the airport to downtown, take the Grey Line buses. It only costs $18 for a roundtrip ticket and they stop at all the major downtown hotels.

Here's the Priceline map of the Seattle area:


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BobMorris



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 1:26 am    Post subject:

I'm staying at

Red Lion Hotel on Fifth Avenue
1415 5th Ave

I think it's about $125 a night and is walking distance to Gnomedex. Wireless too! Can't stay anyplace without wireless.

I found them when I booked on Expedia

Bob Morris polizeros.com
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IGGY



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject:

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I see a bunch of you are staying 4 nights and I'm trying to figure out why. 


Speaking for myself only. It has to do with how we've ( myself and my girlfriend ) have chosen to travel. This also opens up some time to explore the area and get to know the layout of things. Depending on when we arrive. This may allow for time to see some of the sites. As with things in Tahoe. There really wasn't a lot of time to go take in the area. You figure with the conference schedule and a little nightly entertainment. Your left with no time during the day to take things in. Unless you try and book a day in advance. When in Tahoe we did a day trip to San Francisco ( ZoneLabs ). So we missed many of the local offerings in the Tahoe region.

Honestly even with staying in Seattle for Wed Jun-22-2005 (4 nights). I highly doubt I'm going to be able to see some of the different venues I'd like to take in. Like a few others here. Money is also another factor to consider. I'm not sure how much disposable income we'll have when we get to Seattle.

On an entirely different note. Amtrak as a cross country option to Gnomedex would be a very expensive proposition. Even when just doing coach for a few a days. After looking at their pricing online. It's easy to see why they are short on customers and going broke. Not that I would take a bus. But it's interesting that some of the more economically disadvantaged ( such as myself ) haven't mentioned this option. Although looking at some of the people waiting for the Greyhound in my area. I'm not 100% sure I'd be comfortable on a cross country trip with them. Let alone having to share bathroom facilities with these individuals. But this is of course a personal choice and should be considered an option.
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raines



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:03 pm    Post subject:

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Amtrak as a cross country option to Gnomedex would be a very expensive proposition. Even when just doing coach for a few a days.[right][snapback]262819[/snapback][/right]


Did you try the weekly specials? Embark on the 16th and you can get from Minneapolis to Seattle for $80 (70% off!)

I've used Greyhound in a pinch and it can be reasonable, but I find train-time so much more productive and relaxing.

Raines
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IGGY



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:53 pm    Post subject:

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Amtrak as a cross country option to Gnomedex would be a very expensive proposition. Even when just doing coach for a few a days.[right][snapback]262819[/snapback][/right]


Did you try the weekly specials? Embark on the 16th and you can get from Minneapolis to Seattle for $80 (70% off!)

I've used Greyhound in a pinch and it can be reasonable, but I find train-time so much more productive and relaxing.

Raines
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When we looked at the site originally which was some time ago. If you were wanting an actual room with a private bath and shower you were going to pay out the backside. If you wanted a private room with shared facilities it wasn't much better. Now add to this fact that Amtrak doesn't exactly keep to schedule. The fact that many times you end up on a bus anyway. It takes away from the whole oh it'd be fun to see the world on a train. I can't take a train for 3 days with no shower. If it was just me and no other people on the train. Then ok maybe.

Although road tripping is rather old school and stressful. It can in fact be fun. And you see places you might not otherwise see. And although Amtrak was an option we looked at. They don't pay me a commission. So flying or road trippping become the options we normally go for.

Can you honestly say you find the Amtrak site user friendly? When you get deeper into the site making your plans just doesn't seem user friendly to me. Just now looking at the weekly specials. I saw no dates available for the time we need. Everything is listing for August only. And what is with having to pick a time? They shouldn't force that upon you when trying to find scheduled departures. I don't really care what time. Give a list of when the trains come and go on the dates I need. Then I'll decide what time suits me best.

Sorry, We cannot find any trains for the stations and/or time(s) you requested. Please try an earlier time, a different travel date, or alternate stations/cities.

That wouldn't be an issue if they would just show what is available from the selected stations on the selected dates.

It's not this hard to go book a flight. lol. With Amtrak instead of getting the schedule when you search. You must first visit the schedule tab. Then head on over to the reservations tab to see pricing. It's not a one step smooth process. Non user friendly doesn't get my business. Even doing the schedules tab won't give you an actual schedule. Unless - you guessed it - you can guess the proper time to select to get the list.

Problem Finding Service: Sorry, we cannot find service matching the departure and arrival stations/cities you provided. Please modify either or both stations/cities and resubmit, or, for additional assistance, please contact us at 1-800-USA-RAIL (1-800-872-7245).
[Error ID: 619S]

This all stems from them wanting a time when your searching. How can I select a proper time when you won't show me what times are available?

But their website swears it's easy to make a reservation. Maybe I'm just completely stoned on some drug I'm unaware of. But in my mind it's just to much hassle to deal with. I can go catch a flight or book a hotel room to stay at while driving out much easier and more efficiently.

I honestly don't feel a few grand is cheap for a train ride. And a flight is nowhere near that price. And few grand is exactly the price they wanted for a roundtrip train ride to Seattle and back with a room. And yes we priced things with just a seat as well. Actually now that I think about it - the website pissed us off so much we actually ended up calling their 800# to get pricing. Which was exactly as I stated above. Now it's been a month or so since we checked things. Maybe something has changed. But the numbers they gave us were far from cheap originally.


Now lets add to this fact that you can't veen book a roundtrip from The Springfield, IL station.

We just called Amtrak. Your not going to get an $80 rate from Chicago to Seattle. Which is where we would have to leave from. The lady laughed at that. The rates that were quoted were coach - $1,132.00 roundtrip for two people. With a sleeper this rate goes to $1,482.00. We would then need to add $32 to $90 per person depending on what is available for the roundtrip from Chicago to Springfield.

A car trip I'll spend about $400 for hotel rooms for 3 nights out and back. Then add the cost of food and gas would come to about another $400. So we come in cheaper than the train. And we get to see a few sites and states we wouldn't have by flying.

Now if we go with the orginal posters search. I'm not getting any dates that we would need for travelling. You do get this - 2 Weekly Specials Seats
$160.20 for 2 people to Seattle. It says online that you supposedly can get this rate from Chicago - but the lady on the phone had no clue about this. But again no dates we need are available.

Calling back roundtrip leaving on the 18th of this month for coach. The best they will do is $944. Still cheaper to drive or fly.
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strotter



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject:

I'm going to be staying with my Dad, who lives in Seattle. But if I didn't have him, I'd probably stay at the Pioneer Square Hotel, located at the southern end of downtown, near Pioneer Square, at Yesler and Western. It's an older place, but it's well-maintained and it has Wi-Fi. My wife and I stayed there last year for 1 night, and I seem to recall that the price was something like $120/night. It's the closest hotel to Safeco Field, so if the Mariners are in town, the place will be full of out-of-town baseball fans.

The neighborhood isn't the greatest--Pioneer Square is the locus for Seattle's homeless population--but I've never had any problems there. The Elliot Bay Bookstore is about a block away in one direction, and the waterfront/Alaskan Way is a block away in the opposite direction. I'd guess that it's about a 15-minute walk from the hotel to the conference facility along Alaskan Way, and the weather should be pretty decent by then.

--scott--
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