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tony7914
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 Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: Panetta to Be Named C.I.A. Director |
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| Update | 4:55 p.m. President-elect Barack Obama has selected Leon E. Panetta, the former congressman and White House chief of staff, to take over the Central Intelligence Agency, an organization that Mr. Obama criticized during the campaign for using interrogation methods he decried as torture, Democratic officials said Monday......... |
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| Mr. Panetta has a reputation in Washington as a competent manager with strong background in budget issues, but has little hands-on intelligence experience. If confirmed by the Senate, he will take control of the agency most directly responsible for hunting senior Al Qaeda leaders around the globe, but one that has been buffeted since the Sept. 11 attacks by leadership changes and morale problems............ |
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ejward
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, what's up with that? I know his views are the same as Obama. He used to be a Republican so maybe that will help but, he has no intelligence experience.
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Gezzer
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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well the so called expects in intelligence have not really achieved anything
maybe someone else could do better … |
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ejward
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Gezzer wrote: |
well the so called expects in intelligence have not really achieved anything
maybe someone else could do better … |
That was my first thought but, I'm not so sure that this is the position for an "outsider". |
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Gezzer
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| ejward wrote: |
| Gezzer wrote: |
well the so called expects in intelligence have not really achieved anything
maybe someone else could do better … |
That was my first thought but, I'm not so sure that this is the position for an "outsider". |
maybe it will be an outsider that has the ability to look inside
they do not carry the baggage that most of the others have to carry … |
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tony7914
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| ejward wrote: |
| Yeah, what's up with that? I know his views are the same as Obama. He used to be a Republican so maybe that will help but, he has no intelligence experience. |
As Clinton's budget chief, he sought to cut the CIA's budget and clashed with then-CIA director R. James Woolsey.
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tony7914
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Gezzer wrote: |
well the so called expects in intelligence have not really achieved anything
maybe someone else could do better … |
That's your opinion. It's been my experience that spooks work best with spooks and this guy is no spook. |
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ejward
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| tony7914 wrote: |
| ejward wrote: |
| Yeah, what's up with that? I know his views are the same as Obama. He used to be a Republican so maybe that will help but, he has no intelligence experience. |
As Clinton's budget chief, he sought to cut the CIA's budget and clashed with then-CIA director R. James Woolsey.
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As budget chief I would hope that he would attempt to cut a lot of budgets. I'm not sure I'd hold that against him. It was his job. |
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tony7914
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| Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:21 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| ejward wrote: |
| tony7914 wrote: |
| ejward wrote: |
| Yeah, what's up with that? I know his views are the same as Obama. He used to be a Republican so maybe that will help but, he has no intelligence experience. |
As Clinton's budget chief, he sought to cut the CIA's budget and clashed with then-CIA director R. James Woolsey.
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As budget chief I would hope that he would attempt to cut a lot of budgets. I'm not sure I'd hold that against him. It was his job. |
My biggest concern he has no intelligence experience and Langley has never done well with an outsider running it. As much as it makes me sick I have to agree with Feinstein. |
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CowpokeBob
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| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| ejward wrote: |
| tony7914 wrote: |
| ejward wrote: |
| Yeah, what's up with that? I know his views are the same as Obama. He used to be a Republican so maybe that will help but, he has no intelligence experience. |
As Clinton's budget chief, he sought to cut the CIA's budget and clashed with then-CIA director R. James Woolsey.
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As budget chief I would hope that he would attempt to cut a lot of budgets. I'm not sure I'd hold that against him. It was his job. |
As a budget chief I would applaud his efforts. As the future head of the spy agency he sought to take funds away from and limit the power of and as an outsider to the agency which by its very nature and function is an inclusive club that likes to keep its secrets close I'd consider it a very bad career move. And bad news for our intelligence community as a whole. |
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Sgt Schultz
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| Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| George Bush Sr. had no intelligence experience when he was picked to run the agency. So were a few others who were successful in the position. |
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ejward
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| Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:29 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| I heard that this is not a done deal and he hasn't been officially nominated. |
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CowpokeBob
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Other than showing that he is highly qualified to dismantle and destroy the CIA I didn't see anything in that article that would change my mind about his being a very poor choice for CIA chief. Its unfortunate because he will likely set the CIA's ability to do its job and once again make it impotent after it was beginning to recover a bit. Just another poor choice by an inexperienced president elect. |
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