Obama's TV Presentation

kenmabmcc · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: Obama's TV Presentation

I think that this presentation was not only well done but will connect with most voters.

I was impressed that although he said there are challenges,
he had inclusive and positive way forward outlook.

Wink

ejward · Joined: Jan 06, 2003 Posts: 7054

I thought it was OK. One thing I didn't understand was his "tax breaks for working families making less thatn $200,000". What happened to less than $250,000? Or did I misunderstand something somewhere along the way?

Those of us making $249,000 a year want to know ....... just kidding. Wink

Gezzer · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject:

i like the part about there is not a liberal United States nor a conservative United States but only the United States of America

if i could vote for him i would but sadly i can't

this man is truly a breath of fresh air …

mommabear · Joined: Feb 20, 2003 Posts: 6319

swordofdestiny · Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 164

First it was $300,000 then I quote Obama, "If you make under $250,000 you will not see your taxes increase." Then "If you make under $200,000 you will get a tax cut." Then Joe Biden said $150,000 and then Bill Richardson (Gov. New Mexico) said $120,000 http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/low-richardson-pegs-middle-class-making/ I'm not too sure if the Bill Richardson is valid or not, there's not enough proof running around, but Biden has said $150,000. Also, Gezzer, fresh air my rear, he's not any "different" he's just extremely leftist. He's trying to change the U.S. from capitalism to socialism, in my opinion. You think he'll be fiscally responsible? Look at this: http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=97

kenmabmcc

bush has already changed US capitalism,
without socialist bush, Wall St would be dead.

swordofdestiny · Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 164

Care to prove that?

kenmabmcc

ejward · Joined: Jan 06, 2003 Posts: 7054

swordofdestiny · Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 164

ejward: http://www.nypost.com/seven/10292008/news/politics/biden_blows_fuzzy_t...math_13

Ken, Wall St. did not see a penny from that bailout. You see, Wall St. going up or down depends on whether the investors decide to buy or sell. Buy a lot, it goes up, sell a lot it goes down. It just so happens investors decided to sell a crapton when the banks went south. Now, this is NOT as bad as the 1930 crash. In the 1930s you had people jumping out of windows because of it. You had bread lines, water lines, etc. I do not think the situation is that bad. I don't think it will get that bad. I don't agree with the bailout. AGAIN, AS A CONSERVATIVE I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE BAILOUT! I am disappointed in McCain for voting for it. The bailout did help restore some confidence in the market which has led to a bit of it going back up. I mean it had a record increase on the anniversary of the 1930 crash. Now, back to taxes... he says that people wont see a tax increase, but what will happen when he repeals the BTCs? Your taxes WILL go up. The reason it the BTC benefited the wealthy more is because of the progressive nature of our tax system. The BTC allowed some people to stop paying income taxes, what happens when that gets repealed? Doesn't that mean they'll have a tax increase?