| Next: log file |
| Author |
Message |
tony7914
Joined: Dec 24, 2004
Posts: 4965
Location: Peru Indiana
|
 Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: Obama Sides With Bush in Spy Case |
|
|
| Quote: |
The Obama administration fell in line with the Bush administration Thursday when it urged a federal judge to set aside a ruling in a closely watched spy case weighing whether a U.S. president may bypass Congress and establish a program of eavesdropping on Americans without warrants.
In a filing in San Francisco federal court, President Barack Obama adopted the same position as his predecessor. With just hours left in office, President George W. Bush late Monday asked U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker to stay enforcement of an important Jan. 5 ruling admitting key evidence into the case.
Thursday's filing by the Obama administration marked the first time it officially lodged a court document in the lawsuit asking the courts to rule on the constitutionality of the Bush administration's warrantless-eavesdropping program. The former president approved the wiretaps in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.
"The Government's position remains that this case should be stayed," the Obama administration wrote (.pdf) in a filing that for the first time made clear the new president was on board with the Bush administration's reasoning in this case........ |
Source. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Sgt Schultz
Joined: Dec 07, 2002
Posts: 7378
Location: St. Louis area
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
| Not surprised considering his vote on this issues before. It's one area I definitely disagree with him on and will continue to do so.
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tony7914
Joined: Dec 24, 2004
Posts: 4965
Location: Peru Indiana
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:27 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
|
|
| Sgt Schultz wrote: |
| Not surprised considering his vote on this issues before. It's one area I definitely disagree with him on and will continue to do so. |
I kinda expected this, it's a good sign. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mommabear
Joined: Feb 20, 2003
Posts: 6319
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:26 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
|
|
| Sgt Schultz wrote: |
| Not surprised considering his vote on this issues before. It's one area I definitely disagree with him on and will continue to do so. |
I'm not sure what's going on yet. So I'm just speculating here. But this is one case, and it does involve Americans in contact with a suspected foreign entity. (I didn't research if there's any evidence that the charity was a front for terrorism.)
In the meantime, this has come to the forefront recently:
I remember when he voted on that bill, but he said he did so with reservations because he felt it didn't have enough oversight protections against abuse. But, he felt there are times when a President has to act immediately to protect the country, and that's why he voted for it. Something along that line, anyway. I wasn't happy about his vote either, but I could see the reasoning behind that.
So, maybe this is about sort of putting a hold on things right now until his own policies are refined about what is and isn't allowed in relation to our national security. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
CowpokeBob
Joined: Feb 07, 2006
Posts: 1501
Location: South Carolina, USA
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
|
|
If I remember correctly I heard the Federal Appeals Court with jurisdiction recently upheld the warrantless wiretap bill. Since this is the venue I believe serves the country best in ultimately deciding the fate of the bill I'll wait till it has worked its way fully through the process.
For the record as an ex-officer I have no objections to it as long as it is being used to gather intelligence and not to prosecute US citizens. The US military does this routinely now though no police action can be taken in most cases from anything they come accross. Drug trafficking being the one exception I am aware of. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
General