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wenbo
Joined: Sep 15, 2003
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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 Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:18 pm Post subject: .NET Framework SP1 won't install |
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Obviously I have NET Framework installed. I have an update for
Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 Security Update for Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, and Windows Server 2008 R2 (KB953297)
It will not install. I have tried from the yellow shield updater and from Microsofts website but it will not install. It says some updates could not be installed.
How do I get this security update to install on my computer? Or do I need NET Framework and it can be uninstalled altogether? |
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goretsky
Joined: Dec 07, 2002
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Location: Southern California
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Hello,
Which version of Microsoft Windows are you running, and which versions of .NET Framework are currently installed on those computers? Knowing that might be helpful in further troubleshooting the problem.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky |
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drwho07
Joined: Nov 29, 2007
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Location: Central FL, USA
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: |
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.net Framework is now up to version 3.5+
I'd not be messing around with ver. 1.1
I carry 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5 on my update CD and install them in that order if I come across a PC with only 1.x installed.
Many programs that we rely on require Dot Net Framework to be installed first, if those programs are to run. It's like a programming language that many programs today are dependent on.
See if you can download 2.0 and install that first.
Cheers!
The Doctor  |
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zlim
Joined: Mar 11, 2005
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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werebo, what is the number on that patch? Are you running 2k, XP or Vista?
You do not need .NET 2 unless some program complains.
One of my computers has .NET 1.1 and whatever patches and service packs go along with it. Another computer has >NET2, simply because a doc to pdf program I use required it, otherwise I would not have installed it.
Doc, be careful with .NET 3.5, MS has been screwing with installing addons and plugins into Firefox without your knowledge and making it susceptible to security holes.
It started way back in February 2009 when FF was still at v3.
old news
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/09/remove-microsoft-net-framework-assist...-from-f
more up to date
http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2009/10/16/net-framework-assistant-bl...ed-to-d
the story changes daily. Mozilla at times blocks the addon & plugin and at other times doesn't.
Look over your addons for
Microsoft .NET Framework Assistant 1.1,
and look over your plugins for
Windows Presentation Foundation 3.5.30729.1
werebo, what is the number on that patch? Are you running 2k, XP or Vista? |
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wenbo
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| zlim wrote: |
werebo, what is the number on that patch? Are you running 2k, XP or Vista?
You do not need .NET 2 unless some program complains.
One of my computers has .NET 1.1 and whatever patches and service packs go along with it. Another computer has >NET2, simply because a doc to pdf program I use required it, otherwise I would not have installed it.
Doc, be careful with .NET 3.5, MS has been screwing with installing addons and plugins into Firefox without your knowledge and making it susceptible to security holes.
It started way back in February 2009 when FF was still at v3.
old news
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/09/remove-microsoft-net-framework-assist...-from-f
more up to date
http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2009/10/16/net-framework-assistant-bl...ed-to-d
the story changes daily. Mozilla at times blocks the addon & plugin and at other times doesn't.
Look over your addons for
Microsoft .NET Framework Assistant 1.1,
and look over your plugins for
Windows Presentation Foundation 3.5.30729.1
werebo, what is the number on that patch? Are you running 2k, XP or Vista?
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I use XP. The patch is: MS09-061: security update for the Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1: October 13, 2009 (KB953297)
I'm so confused 
Hope someone can help me out. |
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mommabear
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:37 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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I ran across this a few weeks back. Might be of some use.
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.NET Framework Cleanup Tool User's Guide
Introduction
This .NET Framework cleanup tool is designed to automatically perform a set of steps to remove selected versions of the .NET Framework from a computer. It will remove files, directories, registry keys and values and Windows Installer product registration information for the .NET Framework. The tool is intended primarily to return your system to a known (relatively clean) state in case you are encountering .NET Framework installation, uninstallation, repair or patching errors so that you can try to install again. |
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx |
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jeff552004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| If you are running XP, download dotnetfx.exe from MS and run. After that normal update will be able to run. Most likely your netfx.msi is corrupted. |
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zlim
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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I installed 953297 in Ocober on two XP computers.
mommabear's link points out a blog about using the cleanup tool that jeff552004 mentioned in his post. There are downloads scattered over the internet but you never know how clean the download is.
I try to get from the source, in this case MS, I think this might be the cleanup tool to run
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=7A4EFC33-0343...E4-B0C4
then go back and see if the update will install.
If it doesn't, post back and we'll do a bit more searching. |
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wenbo
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| zlim wrote: |
I installed 953297 in Ocober on two XP computers.
mommabear's link points out a blog about using the cleanup tool that jeff552004 mentioned in his post. There are downloads scattered over the internet but you never know how clean the download is.
I try to get from the source, in this case MS, I think this might be the cleanup tool to run
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=7A4EFC33-0343...E4-B0C4
then go back and see if the update will install.
If it doesn't, post back and we'll do a bit more searching. |
zlim when i click the link I am taken to a search page called bing. nothing about microsoft downloads just a basic microsoft search page. If I click a link, I get another search page. What's up? |
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jeff552004
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zlim
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=7A4EFC33-0343-4EE4-B0C4-97BD16967A09&displaylang=en |
Uninstall Cleanup Tool for the .NET Framework 1.0 and .NET Framework 1.1 updates KB928366, KB929729, and KB928367
The forum trunctes the link; it works for me but not all computers operate the same.
I put it in a code box so it would not be truncated.
Simply highlight the link and press ctrl+c to copy it and paste the link using ctrl+v into the address bar of your browser. |
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wenbo
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:25 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| zlim wrote: |
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| http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=7A4EFC33-0343-4EE4-B0C4-97BD16967A09&displaylang=en |
Uninstall Cleanup Tool for the .NET Framework 1.0 and .NET Framework 1.1 updates KB928366, KB929729, and KB928367
The forum trunctes the link; it works for me but not all computers operate the same.
I put it in a code box so it would not be truncated.
Simply highlight the link and press ctrl+c to copy it and paste the link using ctrl+v into the address bar of your browser. |
That didn't work as they won't work with my Win32 computer. |
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jeff552004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| I am also using WinXP 32, after I ran dotnetfx.exe, update was able to run without probem. |
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zlim
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:04 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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wenbo, scroll to where it says Files in This Download
The links in this section correspond to separate files available in this download. Download the files most appropriate for you. The last download x86 means a 32 bit version.
Computers are called 286 (ancient), 386 (old) and 486(newer) so all 32 bit (and even 16 bit) are designated as x86, meaning it will work when you replace x with 2, 3 or 4. |
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wenbo
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| zlim wrote: |
wenbo, scroll to where it says Files in This Download
The links in this section correspond to separate files available in this download. Download the files most appropriate for you. The last download x86 means a 32 bit version.
Computers are called 286 (ancient), 386 (old) and 486(newer) so all 32 bit (and even 16 bit) are designated as x86, meaning it will work when you replace x with 2, 3 or 4. |
zlim, it won't work. All I get is a quick flash of a black text box, guessing it's something I'm supposed to type into but it won't load. Now what? |
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zlim
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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I don't know how the download is supposed to react. Maybe the cmd prompt (black box you see) popup is normal - I just don't know.
Have you gone to the windows update site again to see if the update will now install? |
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wenbo
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| zlim wrote: |
I don't know how the download is supposed to react. Maybe the cmd prompt (black box you see) popup is normal - I just don't know.
Have you gone to the windows update site again to see if the update will now install? |
I knew it was a cmd prompt but couldn't remember what it was called, DOH.
I just tried again and I get the same message that it wasn't installed.
I have updates set to tell me when new ones are available and I download them first then install what I want/need. The shield keeps popping up and it's the same thing, the SP1 for .NET.
I don't know what to do to get this critical update to install. |
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Baby_Tux
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Not sure what all you've tried, so forgive me if I'm re-inventing the wheel here. But I DO believe that the .NET stuff can be gotten separate, possibly at another site (M$'s or some other)& installed that way.
I am a level 3 & have been for quite a while so I don't remember what all I had to do. I DO NOT use the auto update (had to many machines totally bust) & I only update what is absolutely needed.(the old adage, if it ain't broke...) So, you MIGHT want to consider that if an app or program isn't saying "I need that to function", just to forget it all together. (just my opinion, your mileage may vary) |
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zlim
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wenbo
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:04 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Guess I don't have to worry now,my computer crashed!
Stupid thing wouldn't reboot or shut down. I shut it down manually and on restart all I got was a Windows screen instead of a welcome screen.
Tried a system recovery and when it was done all I got was like a cmd prompt screen with NTLDR is compressed, press CTL+ALT+DELETE to reboot. Did that and all it does is cycle back.
Sent it to my tech guy so hopefully he can get it up and running. Good job I have the hard drive cloned on an external drive!!! Although I haven't done it for a while so I'm sure there will be some music that I've lost and hopefully can get back
Good job I've got a nice neighbor who lends me her laptop if I need it  |
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